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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    How can you be such a downer? Why don't you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and repeat after me: USA! USA! USA!
    There is no spoon.



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    Trump is going to make it the best police state evar! More police. More DHS. More Homeland Security. More military.

    Can you turn your head and cough for me now, please?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-11-2017 at 05:41 PM.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump is going to make it the best police state evar! More police. More DHS. More Homeland Security. More military.

    Can you turn your head and cough for me now, please?
    Sounds like your kind of guy.

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    "the power of the Deep State is even more forbidding – and seemingly invincible – than anyone knew.

    a Samsung television set that is seemingly turned off can be – and no doubt has been – used to spy on the conversations and activities of a room’s occupants, ... common electronic devices, such as the iPhone, ... “can be instructed to send the CIA the user’s geolocation, audio and text communications as well as covertly activate the phone’s camera and microphone.” The CIA is even working on remotely controlling the electronic steering systems installed in cars – a perfect route to pulling off an assassination that looks like an “accident.” Not that the intelligence services of the “leader of the Free World” would ever consider such an act. ...

    ... This plague is being spread over the Internet by a veritable army of CIA hackers: “By the end of 2016 … the CIA’s hacking division, which formally falls under the agency’s
    Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI), had over 5000 registered users and had produced more than a thousand hacking systems, trojans, viruses, and other ‘weaponized’ malware.” ...

    [CIA/NSA False Flag Hacking and Spying] the CIA’s Remote Devices Branch’s “Umbrage group,” ... “simply draws on computer code used by its adversaries ... and inserts it into its own handcrafted malware and other invasive programs, thus leaving Russian (or Chinese, or North Korean) fingerprints on the handiwork of CIA hackers. … the CIA has perfected the art of imitating its rivals, mimicking the Russians – or whomever – in a perfect setup for a “false flag” scenario. ...

    We have created a monster, a Deep State with such unchecked power, armed with such Orwellian technology, that it represents a clear and present danger to our constitutional republic. … Accelerated by our foreign policy of perpetual war, the national security bureaucracy has accumulated immense power, and our elected leaders have neglected to provide any oversight. Indeed, they are at its mercy. ...

    Either we slay the monster or it will enslave us."
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    One aspect of the Vault 7 data dump that’s drawing particular attention is the CIA’s Remote Devices Branch’s “Umbrage group,” which, we are told, “collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques ‘stolen’ from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.” The idea is to mask the Agency’s cyberwar operations by attempting to hide the unique forensic attributes of its techniques. ... It simply draws on computer code used by its adversaries – and not only Russia – and inserts it into its own handcrafted malware and other invasive programs, thus leaving Russian (or Chinese, or North Korean) fingerprints on the handiwork of CIA hackers. ... So now we learn that the CIA has perfected the art of imitating its rivals, mimicking the Russians – or whomever – in a perfect setup for a “false flag” scenario.

    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
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    Either we slay the monster or it will enslave us."
    I have been pleased in the past to burn spooks operating on US soil.

    I dislike dishonesty.

    Whenever folks want,, I'll join in.
    I've been waiting on ya'all.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Right now, the default is to "opt in", but there are schemes in the works to automatically opt you in (giving you no "opt"ion) and you must "opt out" as the proposed new default:
    The opt-in rules are scheduled to take effect on or after December 4, 2017, but ISPs have petitioned the FCC to eliminate the rules before that happens. The latest CTIA filing was a reply to groups that opposed the petition to overturn the rules.CTIA is the main lobbyist group representing mobile broadband providers such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile USA, and Sprint.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    The opt-in rules are scheduled to take effect on or after December 4, 2017, but ISPs have petitioned the FCC to eliminate the rules before that happens. The latest CTIA filing was a reply to groups that opposed the petition to overturn the rules.CTIA is the main lobbyist group representing mobile broadband providers such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile USA, and Sprint.
    Q: What do you call a thousand dead lobbyists at the bottom of the sea?
    A: A good start!

    ---

    Ok, heres something I rarely talk about.

    For as much as I rant about ordinary people being susceptible to psychological manipulations of fear mongering, manufactured hatred, propaganda, etc, I dont talk quite as much about Lobbyists doing the very same things to politicians as I think many people, including myself, expecting they are the source of the phoney baloney that gets spewed all over the MSM like eating last nights leftovers after it went bad. Lobbyists use just as many mental perversions on those who have power to change the laws as they do on everyone else. The unique leaders like Ron Paul are easily able to see their BS for what it is and tend to call it out. But no one is perfect and those powerful manipulations still have an effect on every human being, but to varying degrees.

    Lobbyists use Propaganda on politicians as much as MSM uses propaganda on the sheeple to get what they want, more money and more power, at the expense of the mundanes or those who they want to be powerless to resist their will. The Police State is the inevitable result of this because power and authority are granted to those who claim to protect you from whatever boogeyman is shown.
    Last edited by DamianTV; 03-17-2017 at 01:13 PM.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  11. #39
    Big Brother Grows Bigger

    “[s]oon, it may be hard for visa holders to board an international flight without submitting to a facial geometry scan.” Or any flight: “a new project is poised to bring those same systems to every international airport in America,” ...

    a bureaucrat from US Customs and Border Protection spewed even scarier facts about this evisceration of privacy. For starters, he confessed that his agency"
    currently ha[s] everyone’s photo, so we don’t need to do any sort of enrollment. We have access to the Department of State records so we have photos of US Citizens, we have visa photos, we have photos of people when they cross into the US and their biometrics are captured into [DHS biometric database] IDENT…”
    CBP already has visa holders’ faces on file
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows



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    Who designed the malware worm that is now wreaking havoc on tens of thousands of computers internationally by hackers demanding a king’s ransom? The U.S. government.

    Who is the biggest black market buyer and stockpiler of cyberweapons (weaponized malware that can be used to hack into computer systems, spy on citizens, and destabilize vast computer networks)? The US government.

    What country has one the deadliest arsenals of weapons of mass destruction? The US government.

    Who is the largest weapons manufacturer and exporter in the world, such that they are literally arming the world? The US government.

    Which is the only country to ever use a nuclear weapon in wartime? The United States.

    How did Saddam Hussein build Iraq’s massive arsenal of tanks, planes, missiles, and chemical weapons during the 1980s? With help from the US government.

    Who gave Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida “access to a fortune in covert funding and top-level combat weaponry”? The US government.

    What country has a pattern and practice of entrapment that involves targeting vulnerable individuals, feeding them with the propaganda, know-how and weapons intended to turn them into terrorists, and then arresting them as part of an elaborately orchestrated counterterrorism sting? The US government.

    Where did ISIS get many of their deadliest weapons, including assault rifles and tanks to antimissile defenses? From the US government.

    Which country has a history of secretly testing out dangerous weapons and technologies on its own citizens? The US government.

    Are you getting the picture yet?
    The US government isn’t protecting us from terrorism. The US government is creating the terror. It is, in fact, the source of the terror. ...

    More from the John Whitehead at the Rutherford Institute.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 05-23-2017 at 07:23 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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