Missouri Bills to Ban Mercury and Foreign DNA in Vaccines

[Created4]

In January 2017, State Representative Lynn Morris introduced HB 331 in the Missouri House of Representatives prohibiting vaccines containing mercury or other metals used for preservation or any other purpose from being administered to a child or adult in a public health clinic in Missouri. If passed, the legislation would take effect on Aug. 28, 2018.1

A second bill, HB 332, introduced by Rep. Morris, seeks to restrict the use of certain vaccines containing foreign human DNA. It requires that chicken pox and shingles vaccines administered to patients in public health clinics must not contain foreign human DNA contaminates.2 The two bills are in response to public concerns regarding vaccine safety.3

Vaccine mandates and policies at the state level are generally based on the vaccine schedule and guidelines recommended by the U.S. Centers for Disease and Control Prevention’s (CDC). HB 331 and HB 332 aim to invalidate the CDC’s recommendations of vaccines that include mercury and other toxic substances.3

Although the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) maintains that “All forms of mercury are quite toxic, and each form exhibits different health effects,”4 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to minimize the dangers of mercury in vaccines. The FDA admits that thimerosal (a mercury based preservative) is still being used in vaccines in varying amounts.

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[Zippyjuan]

Mercury (thimerisol) is no longer used in vaccines intended for children. It was removed about a decade ago. It is used in some variations of the flu vaccine but if you are concerned you can request a thimerisol free version.

foreign human DNA

You mean like Canadian DNA?

[Created4]

Mercury (thimerisol) is no longer used in vaccines intended for children. It was removed about a decade ago. It is used in some variations of the flu vaccine but if you are concerned you can request a thimerisol free version.

False.

The FDA admits that thimerosal (a mercury based preservative) is still being used in vaccines in varying amounts.

View the movie "Trace Amounts."

Mercury in Vaccines: A Ridiculous Practice Still in Use Today

[Zippyjuan]

Can you list which ones have how much mercury in them?

[angelatc]

Why lawyers shouldn't run medicine. Right there.

[Created4]

Can you list which ones have how much mercury in them?

Do your own research. I supplied the link.

So are you opposed to states passing laws banning toxic ingredients in vaccines?

Also, still waiting for answers to these questions from you regarding vaccines that I have asked in previous threads:

So answer this question: Do you believe the "science is settled" on vaccines, and that ALL children should be vaccinated with ALL vaccines, by force if necessary?

Do you believe nurses and other healthcare workers should be mandated to take the flu shot as a condition for employment?

Do you believe as a matter of routine premies should get ALL the required CDC vaccinations at birth and two months (where normally they would not have been born yet) as do full-term babies?

[angelatc]

Do your own research. I supplied the link.

So are you opposed to states passing laws banning toxic ingredients in vaccines?

Everything is toxic. It's the dose that matters.

Look at all those other questions, unrelated to the topic at hand. Looks like someone got triggered.

[IBleedNavyAndOrange]

In a search engine type- "flu shot insert."

Find the information from God's mouth (the state). On Google it's the 4th link down.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/vaccines.htm



In a search engine type- "fluzone package insert?"

Find the information from God's mouth (the state). On Google it's the 2nd link down.

Https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biolog.../UCM305089.pdf
^ that's a pdf from the manufacturer ^

Line 232 is table 6 that will show there is mercury in the shots intended for children.


What pisses me off is how they only mention mercury. Nothing on formaldehyde. Nothing about aluminum. Nothing about msg. Nothing about squalene. Nothing about polysorbate 80. And this is just what the manufacturers and the jackboots tell us is in the magic shots. Oops. Forgot to mention sv40.

[juleswin]

Why lawyers shouldn't run medicine. Right there.

What does a foreign human DNA contaminant mean? are they talking about DNA from the scientists fingers while making the vaccine? So I cannot think of any other reason why or how human DNA can get into your vaccine. Also, why are they opposed to this?

It sounds good as a headline but it makes little sense in reality.

[angelatc]

What does a foreign human DNA contaminant mean? are they talking about DNA from the scientists fingers while making the vaccine? So I cannot think of any other reason why or how human DNA can get into your vaccine. Also, why are they opposed to this?

It sounds good as a headline but it makes little sense in reality.

Imagine that.

[angelatc]

In a search engine type- "flu shot insert."

Find the information from God's mouth (the state). On Google it's the 4th link down.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/vaccines.htm



In a search engine type- "fluzone package insert?"

Find the information from God's mouth (the state). On Google it's the 2nd link down.

Https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biolog.../UCM305089.pdf
^ that's a pdf from the manufacturer ^

Line 232 is table 6 that will show there is mercury in the shots intended for children.


What pisses me off is how they only mention mercury. Nothing on formaldehyde. Nothing about aluminum. Nothing about msg. Nothing about squalene. Nothing about polysorbate 80. And this is just what the manufacturers and the jackboots tell us is in the magic shots. Oops. Forgot to mention sv40.

1. Zippy clearly stated that flu shots were the exception.

2. There is no evidence that the type of mercury used in vaccines is harmful.

[donnay]

THIMEROSAL AND VACCINES: WHAT YOUR DOC WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE
http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/06/thimerosal-and.html

[Zippyjuan]

There are two types of mercury. One is methyl mercury and the other is ethyl mercury. Methyl mercury is more toxic and accumulates more in the body. That is the kind you find in some types of fish. That is the one the EPA has established potentially hazardous levels of. Ethyl mercury is the one found in vaccines. It is less toxic and accumulates much less- the half life in your body is only seven days (that is the time it takes to get rid of half of what you had in you). Then we are talking insignificant amounts of it and half of even that tiny amount is gone in a week. It isn't going to be toxic for people receiving vaccines.

[Zippyjuan]

What does a foreign human DNA contaminant mean? are they talking about DNA from the scientists fingers while making the vaccine? So I cannot think of any other reason why or how human DNA can get into your vaccine. Also, why are they opposed to this?

It sounds good as a headline but it makes little sense in reality.

Some vaccines can only be grown in human cell cultures. They use stem cells. If you ban vaccines using these stem cells, you would be banning all vaccines for those diseases. There are very few human cells left in the final vaccine product but you cannot say there are zero such cells.

[juleswin]

Some vaccines can only be grown in human cell cultures. They use stem cells. If you ban vaccines using these stem cells, you would be banning all vaccines for those diseases. There are very few human cells left in the final vaccine product but you cannot say there are zero such cells.

I did not know that, I knew viruses (which most of these vaccines treat) need some living cell host to reproduce but I always thought they always used non human cells to grow them.

Thanks for the info

[Zippyjuan]

I did not know that, I knew viruses (which most of these vaccines treat) need some living cell host to reproduce but I always thought they always used non human cells to grow them.

Thanks for the info

It is just a couple of them. Most of the rest use eggs to culture them in.

[donnay]

There are two types of mercury. One is methyl mercury and the other is ethyl mercury. Methyl mercury is more toxic and accumulates more in the body. That is the kind you find in some types of fish. That is the one the EPA has established potentially hazardous levels of. Ethyl mercury is the one found in vaccines. It is less toxic and accumulates much less- the half life in your body is only seven days (that is the time it takes to get rid of half of what you had in you). Then we are talking insignificant amounts of it and half of even that tiny amount is gone in a week. It isn't going to be toxic for people receiving vaccines.

MDH: There is 12.5 micrograms of mercury in a dose of thimerosal-containing flu vaccine that is given to infants. A can of tuna typically has about 11 micrograms. Breast milk contains between 1.4 to 1.7 micrograms of methyl mercury per liter. If a baby is fed exclusively up to six months, the baby will consume about 360 micrograms of mercury. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal have 1 microgram or less of mercury.

MNHLRP: An accurate comparison between the effects of ingested methyl mercury to injected ethyl mercury can not be made. The body has built in mechanisms in the digestive tract that aids in the excretion of ingested mercury, so much of the mercury eaten in tuna fish is never absorbed. Injected mercury bypasses this natural defense. Although infants do not eat tuna, a 200 lb man would need to eat 11 ½ cans (34 servings) of tuna to receive a comparable amount of mercury, proportional to body size, that which a 20 lb. six month old received from his flu shot, and absorb 100% of the mercury. Breast milk at 1.7 micrograms per liter is also ingested orally, with protection in the GI tract from incremental amounts, as opposed to thimerosal at 25,000 micrograms per liter (infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l) injected intramuscularly. Toxicologists emphasize that any poison’s harm will differ markedly depending on how the exposure is delivered, i.e. inhalation, oral ingestion, or injection. Ironically, material safety data sheets for thimerosal make no mention of exposure through injection.

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[Zippyjuan]

Breast milk at 1.7 micrograms per liter is also ingested orally, with protection in the GI tract from incremental amounts, as opposed to thimerosal at 25,000 micrograms per liter (infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l) injected intramuscularly.

Who is getting one liter of vaccine injected into them in one go? Irrelevant comparison. (also worth noting- a vaccine is a one- shot deal- consuming breast milk is every day for several years).

a 200 lb man would need to eat 11 ½ cans (34 servings) of tuna to receive a comparable amount of mercury, proportional to body size, that which a 20 lb. six month old received from his flu shot

Which indicates that the amount of mercury in canned tuna is also very small.

[donnay]

Who is getting one liter of vaccine injected into them in one go? Irrelevant comparison. (also worth noting- a vaccine is a one- shot deal- consuming breast milk is every day for several years).

"...infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l" 50,000 micrograms per liter.

[Zippyjuan]

"...infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l" 50,000 micrograms per liter.

Per liter. One vaccine is not a liter. They are getting 25 micrograms per vaccine. That would be in 1,000 vaccines if they got 25,000 micrograms.

[NewRightLibertarian]

These are excellent bills. Vaccines has the potential to be the next big states rights issue ala weed. Very exciting developments happening in state legislatures around the country!

[donnay]

Per liter. One vaccine is not a liter. They are getting 25 micrograms per vaccine. That would be in 1,000 vaccines if they got 25,000 micrograms.

Are you really using this stupid card on this?

It is a unit of measure.

Some medical tests report results in micrograms per liter (mcg/L).

A microgram is one-millionth of a gram. A gram is about 1/30 of an ounce.
A liter measures fluid volume. It is a little bigger than a quart.

[Zippyjuan]

Are you really using this stupid card on this?

It is a unit of measure.

Yes, it is a measure of volume. As I pointed out, one liter is the same as 1,000 vaccines (one ml each). Trying to say how much ethyl mercury is in one liter of volume is silly since nobody gets 1,000 vaccines.

[donnay]

Yes, it is a measure of volume. As I pointed out, one liter is the same as 1,000 vaccines (one ml each). Trying to say how much ethyl mercury is in one liter of volume is silly since nobody gets 1,000 vaccines.

No one said "milliliter (ml). Stop playing stupid and then twisting what was said. A child, newborn to 18 gets 69 doses.

Reference:
https://www.nvic.org/Downloads/49-Doses-PosterB.aspx

[Zippyjuan]

No one said "milliliter (ml). Stop playing stupid and then twisting what was said. A child newborn to 18 gets 69 doses.

Reference:
https://www.nvic.org/Downloads/49-Doses-PosterB.aspx

The amount of liquid in one vaccine is one ml. It is the one liter which is the irrelevant figure. That is playing stupid.

A child newborn to 18 gets 69 doses.

Which ones have how much mercury? Also bear in mind that half the mercury is gone from the body in just one week so you can't add up the amounts and count it as one exposure. Nobody is given all those vaccines at once.

[donnay]

The amount of liquid in one vaccine is one ml. It is the one liter which is the irrelevant figure. That is playing stupid.

Repost:

MDH: There is 12.5 micrograms of mercury in a dose of thimerosal-containing flu vaccine that is given to infants. A can of tuna typically has about 11 micrograms. Breast milk contains between 1.4 to 1.7 micrograms of methyl mercury per liter. If a baby is fed exclusively up to six months, the baby will consume about 360 micrograms of mercury. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal have 1 microgram or less of mercury.

MNHLRP: An accurate comparison between the effects of ingested methyl mercury to injected ethyl mercury can not be made. The body has built in mechanisms in the digestive tract that aids in the excretion of ingested mercury, so much of the mercury eaten in tuna fish is never absorbed. Injected mercury bypasses this natural defense. Although infants do not eat tuna, a 200 lb man would need to eat 11 ½ cans (34 servings) of tuna to receive a comparable amount of mercury, proportional to body size, that which a 20 lb. six month old received from his flu shot, and absorb 100% of the mercury. Breast milk at 1.7 micrograms per liter is also ingested orally, with protection in the GI tract from incremental amounts, as opposed to thimerosal at 25,000 micrograms per liter (infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l) injected intramuscularly. Toxicologists emphasize that any poison’s harm will differ markedly depending on how the exposure is delivered, i.e. inhalation, oral ingestion, or injection. Ironically, material safety data sheets for thimerosal make no mention of exposure through injection.

[juleswin]

Who is getting one liter of vaccine injected into them in one go? Irrelevant comparison. (also worth noting- a vaccine is a one- shot deal- consuming breast milk is every day for several years).




Which indicates that the amount of mercury in canned tuna is also very small.

I think Donnay is correct on this. The relevant quote is here.

There is 12.5 micrograms of mercury in a dose of thimerosal-containing flu vaccine that is given to infants. A can of tuna typically has about 11 micrograms. Breast milk contains between 1.4 to 1.7 micrograms of methyl mercury per liter.

They are comparing the mercury in one dose to the flu shot to that in 1 can on tuna. From there, they did a dosing weight comparison to show that a 200 lb man needs to eat 10 cans of tuna to receive the same dose of mercury as a small child getting their flu shot. I don't know if 12.5 microgram to a child is toxic or anywhere near toxic but no trickery here.

[Zippyjuan]

I think Donnay is correct on this. The relevant quote is here.


They are comparing the mercury in one dose to the flu shot to that in 1 can on tuna. From there, they did a dosing weight comparison to show that a 200 lb man needs to eat 10 cans of tuna to receive the same dose of mercury as a small child getting their flu shot. I don't know if 12.5 microgram to a child is toxic or anywhere near toxic but no trickery here.

They are also different types of mercury. The one in tuna is more toxic and more accumulates in the body but both exposures are low. The baby is getting milk every day- they are not getting vaccinated every day. Nobody has suffered lead poisoning from any of those sources.

And again I will ask- which childhood vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury in them? None of them (besides a flu vaccine which is available without it). (See list here: https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVa...fety/UCM096228 )

One did contain less than one microgram, the Tripedia version of the DTaP vaccine which ceased being made and hasn't been available since 2011. http://www.ashp.org/menu/DrugShortag...in.aspx?id=764

Versions of that vaccine Infanrix (GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals) and Daptacel (Sanofi Pasteur, Ltd.) have zero.

[donnay]

They are also different types of mercury. The one in tuna is more toxic and more accumulates in the body but both exposures are low. The baby is getting milk every day- they are not getting vaccinated every day. Nobody has suffered lead poisoning from any of those sources.

Since Zip has a hard time reading, I will repost one more time.

An accurate comparison between the effects of ingested methyl mercury to injected ethyl mercury can not be made. The body has built in mechanisms in the digestive tract that aids in the excretion of ingested mercury, so much of the mercury eaten in tuna fish is never absorbed. Injected mercury bypasses this natural defense. Although infants do not eat tuna, a 200 lb man would need to eat 11 ½ cans (34 servings) of tuna to receive a comparable amount of mercury, proportional to body size, that which a 20 lb. six month old received from his flu shot, and absorb 100% of the mercury. Breast milk at 1.7 micrograms per liter is also ingested orally, with protection in the GI tract from incremental amounts, as opposed to thimerosal at 25,000 micrograms per liter (infant version – toddlers and older get 50,000 mcg/l) injected intramuscularly. Toxicologists emphasize that any poison’s harm will differ markedly depending on how the exposure is delivered, i.e. inhalation, oral ingestion, or injection. Ironically, material safety data sheets for thimerosal make no mention of exposure through injection.

[Zippyjuan]

Since Zip has a hard time reading, I will repost one more time.

Let's see. If a child is given vaccines with no thimerisol (a 50% mercury solution)- how many cans of tuna fish is that zero micrograms equal to in a 200 pound male?

And again I will ask- which childhood vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury in them? None of them (besides a flu vaccine which is available without it). (See list here: https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVa...fety/UCM096228 )

Even your own link only discusses the flu vaccine which again is the only one which still does and is available without it by request if you are still worried about it. But it responds as if every vaccine given a kid is the flu vaccine.

MDH: There is 12.5 micrograms of mercury in a dose of thimerosal-containing flu vaccine that is given to infants. A can of tuna typically has about 11 micrograms. Breast milk contains between 1.4 to 1.7 micrograms of methyl mercury per liter. If a baby is fed exclusively up to six months, the baby will consume about 360 micrograms of mercury. Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal have 1 microgram or less of mercury.