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    'Sweden, who would believe this?': Trump cites non-existent terror attack

    More "alternative facts" from the President. This claim was made in his 2020 Re-election campaign stop in Florida on Saturday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-terror-attack

    Donald Trump appeared to invent a terrorist attack in Sweden during a campaign-style rally in Florida on Saturday, inviting questions that he may have confused the Scandinavian country with a city in Pakistan.

    With thousands of supporters gathered in an aircraft hangar in Melbourne, Florida, Trump used his speech to talk about migration in Europe and linked it to terror attacks in Brussels, Nice and Paris. He then added Sweden to the list, incorrectly stating that an attack had happened there on Friday.

    Trump told supporters: “We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden.”

    Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what’s happening in Brussels. You look at what’s happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris.”
    Sweden’s foreign ministry spokeswoman, Catarina Axelsson, said the government wasn’t aware of any “terror-linked major incidents”.

    She told the Associated Press that the Swedish embassy in Washington contacted the State Department on Sunday to request clarification of Trump’s remarks and was waiting for an answer.

    The former Swedish prime minister Carl Bildt tweeted: “Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound.”

    The source of Trump’s remark is unclear, but it came after Fox News aired an interview with film-maker Ami Horowitz, whose latest documentary examines whether high crime rates in areas of Sweden is linked to its previous open-door policy on people fleeing war and persecution.

    According to the 2016 Swedish Crime Survey, crime rates in Sweden have stayed relatively stable over the last decade, with some fluctuations. In 2015, there were 112 cases of lethal violence in Sweden, an increase of 25 cases compared with 2014, but assaults, threats, sexual offences, car theft, burglary and harassment all reduced compared to the previous year – as did anxiety about crime in society.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    More "alternative facts" from the President.


    And from you.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    And from you.
    Zippy isn't president, unlike your narcissistic pathological liar 90 IQ buddy

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    Trump sucks, but MSM has an obligation to be truthful. Trump didn't say Sweden had a terrorist attack. He said look at what's happening in Sweden, they are having problems.

    Reporting has utterly failed as of late. Stories are fabricated with no accountability. I never have any idea if what I read is the truth anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    Zippy isn't president,...
    Zip is not president of the forum?



    ...unlike your narcissistic pathological liar 90 IQ buddy

    Bad assumption.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump sucks, but MSM has an obligation to be truthful. Trump didn't say Sweden had a terrorist attack. He said look at what's happening in Sweden, they are having problems.

    Reporting has utterly failed as of late. Stories are fabricated with no accountability. I never have any idea if what I read is the truth anymore.
    If Only MSM started reporting the facts and the truth of the migrants real agenda in Europe. Then MSM wouldn't be Fake News. MSM have being pushing recent migrants as WOMEN AND Children. But the images and vids of them have being the opposite lol.

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    Trump is right. Sweden is a mess. And him triggering them this way gets the truth out. Beautiful.

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    A quick look at the OP article does not show Trump saying there was a "terrorist attack" in Sweden. He appears to have said "look what's happening last night in Sweden" and "They’re having problems like they never thought possible." Looks like possible misquoting which qualifies as FAKE NEWS.

    UPDATE: Speculation that Trump may have been referring to a recent suicide bombing in Sehwan (not "Sweden," but with a lot of letters in common with a similar sequence!), Pakistan. Or a recent Tucker Carlson segment discussing asylum seekers in Sweden to higher crime rates.

    Also some funny Tweets here (Early rumors are that ABBA is being investigated):

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...tack_in_sweden

    UPDATE: So I listened to this small segment of his speech and he mentions quite a litany of nations that are experiencing great difficulty with recent flurries of immigration. The misspeak regarding Sweden (at it may not have even been a misspeak, depending) was relatively minor. The speech sounded very good and very persuasive. The new hair style (side part - why is this not a major news story?) looks great and much improved from the old style. I'm a little apprehensive about the "safe zones" as this could be a ploy by neocons.
    Last edited by anaconda; 02-19-2017 at 04:24 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    If Only MSM started reporting the facts and the truth of the migrants real agenda in Europe. Then MSM wouldn't be Fake News. MSM have being pushing recent migrants as WOMEN AND Children. But the images and vids of them have being the opposite lol.
    Things like this from the OP?

    According to the 2016 Swedish Crime Survey, crime rates in Sweden have stayed relatively stable over the last decade, with some fluctuations. In 2015, there were 112 cases of lethal violence in Sweden, an increase of 25 cases compared with 2014, but assaults, threats, sexual offences, car theft, burglary and harassment all reduced compared to the previous year – as did anxiety about crime in society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Things like this from the OP?
    Do you know who is committing crimes in Sweden? Without that information you really can't comment. Crimes committed by Swedish nationals could be trending downward while crime by immigrants is upwards. Then the total crime level could be seen as stable. I sort of suspect that may be the case here.

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    Man, this Trump alleged misspeak regarding Sweden is blown way out of proportion, especially since he included it in a long list of other places on the globe where he said immigration was causing hardship.

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    Sweden sucks with migrants. Totally fault of globalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Zip is not president of the forum?
    Zippy is deep state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Man, this Trump alleged misspeak regarding Sweden is blown way out of proportion, especially since he included it in a long list of other places on the globe where he said immigration was causing hardship.
    THIS is what he said:

    At his rally in Melbourne, FL yesterday, President Trump emphasized on Sweden:

    "You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden. Who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible."
    Maybe a president ought to check his facts first, instead of trusting FOX? If Obama had said something like this everyone would be screaming.
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    THIS is what he said:



    Maybe a president ought to check his facts first, instead of trusting FOX? If Obama had said something like this everyone would be screaming.
    Trump absolutely did not say there was a terrorist attack in Sweden. He said "they took in large numbers; they're having problems like they never thought possible..." and also mentioned Germany, Brussels, Nice, and Paris.
    Last edited by anaconda; 02-19-2017 at 09:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    Zippy isn't president, unlike your narcissistic pathological liar 90 IQ buddy
    except trump didnt say terrorist attack. He just said look at what happened in sweden last night. Nothing abotu terror attack. Fake news says he said terror attack, and then said he lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Things like this from the OP?
    crime rates in Sweden have stayed relatively stable
    but assaults, threats, sexual offences, car theft, burglary and harassment all reduced compared to the previous year
    No. Those are the same news from state gov.

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    I wonder how many previous Trump fence-sitters are successfully being pushed into his corner over stupid distractions like this. Two sides arguing over fake bull$#@!. PICK YOUR TRIBE PLEB!


    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    except trump didnt say terrorist attack. He just said look at what happened in sweden last night. Nothing abotu terror attack. Fake news says he said terror attack, and then said he lied.
    So, just for giggles, tell us what happened in Sweden last night. Snow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    except trump didnt say terrorist attack. He just said look at what happened in sweden last night. Nothing abotu terror attack. Fake news says he said terror attack, and then said he lied.
    "Look what happened in Sweden LAST NIGHT. Sweden!"

    So what part of "last night" do we not understand? Trump DID say that. It's recorded and not "fake news".
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    "Look what happened in Sweden LAST NIGHT. Sweden!"

    So what part of "last night" do we not understand? Trump DID say that. It's recorded and not "fake news".
    Trump was completely unspecific about what happened in Sweden "last night." He did say, however, that Sweden "took in large numbers; they're having problems like they never thought possible..." It seems highly likely that he misspoke and probably had actually watched Tucker Carlson's piece on Sweden immigration that occurred the night before ("last night"). So people in social media and elsewhere who say Trump claimed there was a terrorist incident in Sweden Friday night are making unsubstantiated claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    More "alternative facts" from the President. This claim was made in his 2020 Re-election campaign stop in Florida on Saturday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-terror-attack
    He never said or mentioned a terror attack. Thanks for spreading fake news Zippy.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    And from you.
    Like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    More "alternative facts" from the President. This claim was made in his 2020 Re-election campaign stop in Florida on Saturday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-terror-attack
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."

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    I love the fits that Trump trolls throw any time anyone criticizes the regime.

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    He was fearmongering hard in that speech. That always serves the end of strengthening the police state.
    Last edited by robert68; 02-20-2017 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    "Look what happened in Sweden LAST NIGHT. Sweden!"

    So what part of "last night" do we not understand? Trump DID say that. It's recorded and not "fake news".
    The fake news is saying he said a terrorist attack happened. He didn't. You guys simply do not understand how President Trump operates. Sweden is quite the talk of the town now, do you know what for?

    I love the fits that Trump trolls throw any time anyone criticizes the regime.
    This isn't criticizing, it's a lie. President Trump never said terrorist attack. People who understand President Trump understand what he just did, and why he said it.

    I know why, and I could understand criticism against it, if it came from understanding of why. But instead, its just a bunch of "OMG!, Trump lied, kind of, not really."

    Robert68 has the best criticism of it.

    You, CPUd, Ender, and Zippy, just mindlessly parrot the lie, and you missed out on the why. So you criticize the lie that wasn't, fail, and fail for an opportunity for real criticism. And do you know why? You really aren't smart enough to know how to level criticism. You guys are President Trump's useful idiots! Did you know Breitbart helped found Huffington Post? He spent years setting it up. Do you know why he did that?

    If you research it, you'll see how big of idiots you four really are. You are being used by your enemy, fools. It's laughable.
    Last edited by UWDude; 02-20-2017 at 12:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    The fake news is saying he said a terrorist attack happened. He didn't. You guys simply do not understand how President Trump operates. Sweden is quite the talk of the town now, do you know what for?



    This isn't criticizing, it's a lie. President Trump never said terrorist attack. People who understand President Trump understand what he just did, and why he said it. You, CPUd, Ender, and Zippy, just mindlessly parrot the lie, and you missed out on the why. So you criticize the lie that wasn't, fail, and fail for an opportunity for real criticism. And do you know why? You really aren;t smart enough to know how to level criticism. You guys are President Trump's useful idiots. Did you know Breitbart help found Huffington Post? He spent years setting it up. Do you know why he did that?

    If you research it, you'll see how big of idiots you four really are. You are being used by your enemy, fools.

    I know why, and I could understand criticism against it, if it came from understanding of why. But instead, its just a bunch of "OMG!, Trump lied, kind of, not really."

    Robert68 has the best criticism of it.
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