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    Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea' – White House

    ... and here I was thinking Nikki Haley had gone full retard. Nope.

    Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea' – White House



    US President Donald Trump has been tough on Russia
    and expects Moscow to “return” the Crimea peninsula to Ukraine,
    the White House spokesman told reporters.

    Addressing the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn –
    hounded by the media over his contacts with Russian diplomats prior to Trump’s inauguration –
    Spicer pointed out that Russia “seized” Crimea under the Obama administration
    and that the Trump-appointed ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley
    has “strongly denounced the Russian occupation.”

    "President Trump has made it very clear
    that he expects the Russian government
    to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea,"
    “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia."

    “Crimea is a part of Ukraine.
    Our Crimea-related sanctions will remain in place until Russia returns control of the peninsula to Ukraine,”
    Haley said at the UN Security Council meeting on February 2.

    Russian envoy Vitaly Churkin responded by citing the US Constitution
    and pointing out that Crimeans overwhelmingly voted to join Russia,
    after the US-backed coup in February 2014
    overthrew the elected government in Kiev.

    It is in the national and economic interest of the US
    to have a good relationship with Russia, Spicer explained,
    but said that Haley “speaks for the president” on the matter of Crimea.

    Flynn’s resignation on Monday followed several weeks of media furor
    over his telephone conversation with the Russian ambassador to the US in December,
    after the outgoing Obama administration expelled 35 Russian diplomats and seized two properties.
    Moscow chose not to respond in kind.

    “There is nothing that General Flynn did that was a violation of any sort,” Spicer said,
    explaining that the adviser was asked to resign because of Trump’s “eroding trust”
    after Flynn’s accounts of the conversation to administration officials
    did not square with what was leaked to the media.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-14-2017 at 01:31 PM.



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    HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Trump is about to find out the hard way how much Putin respects him now. Putin stole that land and Trump is truly naive if he thinks Putin is going to give it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Trump is about to find out the hard way how much Putin respects him now. Putin stole that land and Trump is truly naive if he thinks Putin is going to give it back.
    Indeed. And I must say, I do not worry about Putin sending any nukes. I also must say, however, that if this is going to be Trump's way of dealing with things, ah well. Enough said.
    "I am a bird"

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    The Trump's admin had a change of view because the deep state declared war on the Trump's admin. The deep state wants war with Russia and McCain is already itchy,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Trump is about to find out the hard way how much Putin respects him now. Putin stole that land and Trump is truly naive if he thinks Putin is going to give it back.
    Putin stole that land?
    Crimea had a referendum kid. And the results is not what MSM and Deep state were expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Trump is about to find out the hard way how much Putin respects him now. Putin stole that land and Trump is truly naive if he thinks Putin is going to give it back.
    Is this sarcasm?

    The US promoted a Ukraine coup. Crimea voted to go back to Russia and now Russia stole the land?
    There is no spoon.

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    Never it goes back to Ukraine. ( please, look for the Crimean history to learn more ) Crimean annexation in 1954 AD as a part of the Ukrainian SSR ,was a mistake by at those time Soviet leader N. Khruschev who believed that the USSR will last forever and ever. Even during the Soviet era, Crimea had total problems with the Ukranization. The language was Russian and Crimeans never agreed. The Godly thing, the peninsula returned back to Russia without war and bloodshed.
    Last edited by Chomp; 02-14-2017 at 01:55 PM. Reason: better



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Putin stole that land?
    Crimea had a referendum kid. And the results is not what MSM and Deep state were expecting.
    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force, "kid." The United Nations does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as valid, so yes, it is stolen land.

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    What is significant to ponder is: (NOT the 'merits' of Crimea)
    but
    Why the 'need' to tighten/harden the rhetoric all of a sudden?
    This would not help to deflect the Flynn fallout.
    It won't cancel the internal intelligence war.. or the media war.. or the neocon war against Trump.
    So..
    Why do it?
    It suggests a profound lack of confidence... a severe 'stumble'..
    Sad.

    It really can only suggest one thing..
    the administration is (already) panicking about their 'image'...
    like the little kid who suddenly feels the need to 'talk dirty'..
    thinking
    it will help his image as being tough.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-14-2017 at 02:01 PM.

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    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/1...&_r=0&referer=

    I guess they are playing poker... I guess it's safe to say who is better at keeping their real emotions and intentions hidden.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/1...&_r=0&referer=

    I guess they are playing poker... I guess it's safe to say who is better at keeping their real emotions and intentions hidden.
    But US forces marching towards near the Russian borders is ok with the news media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Is this sarcasm?

    The US promoted a Ukraine coup. Crimea voted to go back to Russia and now Russia stole the land?
    You disregard the fact that Russia invaded Crimea prior to the "vote" which according to the UN has no validity anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    You disregard the fact that Russia invaded Crimea prior to the "vote" which according to the UN has no validity anyway.
    How much validity does the UN itself have ?
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force, "kid." The United Nations does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as valid, so yes, it is stolen land.
    The same United Nations which is also responablie for allowing the death and destruction of Yemeni civilians while turning a blind eye?

    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    How much validity does the UN itself have ?
    Considering that most countries recognize it's resolutions as binding, I'm guessing a lot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Nope.
    Ah, alternative facts. Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force, "kid." The United Nations does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as valid, so yes, it is stolen land.
    If you want to talk about annexations how about you Americans return Kosovo back to Serbia then? after all its occupied by NATO forces illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Ah, alternative facts. Ok.
    Ah Mainstream News Media facts like how you still view rebels in Syria
    as moderates right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    If you want to talk about annexations how about you Americans return Kosovo back to Serbia then? after all its occupied by NATO forces illegally.
    Take it up with Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Ah Mainstream News Media facts like how you still view rebels in Syria
    as moderates right?
    I don't, but that's not really what we're discussing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Considering that most countries recognize it's resolutions as binding, I'm guessing a lot.
    Funny you support the fascist Ukrainians. But thats no surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Funny you support the fascist Ukrainians.
    If you say so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force, "kid." The United Nations does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as valid, so yes, it is stolen land.
    You mean AFTER the US backed coup?
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    You mean AFTER the US backed coup?
    Short memories....
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    Crimea held a 'referendum' AFTER Russia took over the peninsula with military force, "kid." The United Nations does not recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as valid, so yes, it is stolen land.
    lol @ "The united nations does not recognize"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    If you say so...
    Crimea is ethnically Russian. The Russians in Crimea never supported Kiev kid. Oh and dont even start with those Muslim Crimean Tatars. Historically belonged to Russia.

    But how about we talk of bringing Kosovo back to Serbia first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpfocus View Post
    I don't, but that's not really what we're discussing here.
    Nice deflection. Go join you're NeoCons then. It seems the Western Mainstream News Media propaganda agaisnt Russia has worked its magic on you.
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 02-14-2017 at 02:25 PM.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Indeed. And I must say, I do not worry about Putin sending any nukes. I also must say, however, that if this is going to be Trump's way of dealing with things, ah well. Enough said.
    Trump seems to be going into a chess match with the intent on playing checkers.


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