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    I here a lot about how people who promote and are associated with libertarianism are rich or upper middle class people who don't care about the poor.
    This is a list of libertarian/ classical liberal leaning people from poor or low class backgrounds that I have compiled for someone to quote everytime a social democrat makes dumb excuses about how there are no poor libertarians.


    Gopal Gokhale
    Bhimrao Ambedkar
    Rose Wilder Lane
    Isabel Paterson
    Henry Hazlitt
    Everybody who lived before the mid 19th century.

    Thats not really a lot since I can't think of any more. Feel free to point out some others for me.
    Last edited by Lamp; 02-10-2017 at 05:00 PM.



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    I don't think Ron Paul was wealthy but I wouldn't call him "low-class". His parents ran a dairy.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    We don't say poor. We say we live small. Very small. That's why we are libertarians. We think the current system makes it hard for people to live right and be a little more comfortable than we are.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I don't think Ron Paul was wealthy but I wouldn't call him "low-class". His parents ran a dairy.
    and yet his ideas work better for the poor than those doled out by marxists born into low classes for the sake of other low class people

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    Jesus

    Poor and, although unaffiliated politically, seemed to have a libertarian streak.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Jesus
    ha ha ha ha ha ha........ha?

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...22&version=KJV

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    Two Corinthians...

    2 Corinthians 9:7 (NIV)

    7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    I miss Ronin Truth. This link was in his siggy. I have to admit John Redford makes a good case.


    Jesus Is an Anarchist

    http://www.anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I miss Ronin Truth. This link was in his siggy. I have to admit John Redford makes a good case.


    Jesus Is an Anarchist

    http://www.anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html
    Too bad the guys after him weren't supposedly anarchists

    *cough cough* Constantine the Great *cough cough*
    Last edited by Lamp; 02-10-2017 at 05:47 PM.

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    Ask them to prove it with peer reviewed research or at least a survey. Ask them for stats on political affiliation and income.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Ask them to prove it with peer reviewed research or at least a survey. Ask them for stats on political affiliation and income.
    Is that a fancy way of saying we need a poll?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Is that a fancy way of saying we need a poll?

    Heh heh; sure.

    But you know what's funny. The Democrat will whine about Republicans all being rich, but then also say the poor, white southern areas are loaded with Republicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Liberty and freedom transcend caste .

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    A better question: are there rich libertarians?
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    The Koch bros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    A better question: are there rich libertarians?
    Not me.
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    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HitoKichi View Post
    The Koch bros?
    Once you are rich you do not have to be beholden to a particular ideology. People will suck up to you anyway. One of the human traits is "flexibility" aka. sycophancy.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    @Suzanimal

    http://bigtitspicsclub.com/


    Oh and thank you for this. that made my day. hehe
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    we libertarians need to individually get rich as we can to advance the movement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    we libertarians need to individually get rich as we can to advance the movement
    yep, it is not that hard.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    we libertarians need to individually get rich as we can to advance the movement
    Yup, dollars are more useful than numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitoKichi View Post
    I here a lot about how people who promote and are associated with libertarianism are rich or upper middle class people who don't care about the poor.
    This is a list of libertarian/ classical liberal leaning people from poor or low class backgrounds that I have compiled for someone to quote everytime a social democrat makes dumb excuses about how there are no poor libertarians.
    It doesn't matter. You'll only be told that "poor" libertarians are just "useful idiots" who suffer from "false consciousness" (or something like that).

    I would advise not wasting your time on people whose arguments hinge on non sequiturs like, "so-and-so isn't poor, so anything he or she said can be dismissed out of hand ..."

    The kind of mentality that makes such arguments cannot be reasoned with.






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