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    Red face Breaking: NH House passes best Constitutional Carry bill in the nation 200-97!

    The New Hampshire House just voted 200 to 97 to pass the best Constitutional Carry bill in the nation. Senate Bill 12 was the first bill the New Hampshire Senate heard this year. It passed the Senate and moved to the House. Senate Bill 12 was the first Senate bill the New Hampshire House voted on. Bills with the exact same text passed in 2015 and 2016 but were vetoed by the former governor. Since the Governor of New Hampshire, Senate leadership, and House leadership campaigned on this issue, they fast tracked it. The bill becomes law as soon as the governor signs it.
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    Update with photo of the vote total.

    Source https://www.facebook.com/FreeStatePr...type=3&theater
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well if people can lawfully carry guns in what used to be gun-free zones, then the school shootings and mall shootings would end.

    The reason people end up dead in the mass shootings is because the victims are unarmed. If at least even one law abiding citizen carries a gun where a madman starts a shootout, then the law abiding citizen can shoot the mass shooter before the death toll even rises, thus saving lives.

    Concealed carry, or even allowing guns at Colleges, can prevent the mass shootings that go on there.

    More guns equals less crime.

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    Bill Text: NH SB12 | 2017 | Regular Session | Introduced

    New Hampshire Senate Bill 12


    NH State Legislature page for SB12









    Bill Title: Repealing the licensing requirement for carrying a concealed pistol or revolver.

    Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Republican 19-0)

    Status: (Engrossed) 2017-02-09 - Reconsider SB 12 (Rep. Hinch): Motion Failed Voice Vote 02/09/2017 [SB12 Detail]

    Download: New_Hampshire-2017-SB12-Introduced.html
    SB 12-FN - AS INTRODUCED


    2017 SESSION
    17-0140
    04/09

    SENATE BILL 12-FN

    AN ACT repealing the licensing requirement for carrying a concealed pistol or revolver.

    SPONSORS: Sen. Bradley, Dist 3; Sen. Avard, Dist 12; Sen. Birdsell, Dist 19; Sen. Carson, Dist 14; Sen. Daniels, Dist 11; Sen. Gannon, Dist 23; Sen. Giuda, Dist 2; Sen. Gray, Dist 6; Sen. Innis, Dist 24; Sen. Morse, Dist 22; Sen. Reagan, Dist 17; Sen. Sanborn, Dist 9; Sen. Ward, Dist 8; Rep. Itse, Rock. 10; Rep. Spillane, Rock. 2; Rep. Pearl, Merr. 26; Rep. Hinch, Hills. 21; Rep. Harrington, Straf. 3

    COMMITTEE: Judiciary

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    ANALYSIS

    This bill:

    I. Increases the length of time for which a license to carry a pistol or revolver is valid.

    II. Allows a person to carry a loaded, concealed pistol or revolver without a license unless such person is otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire statute.


    III. Requires the director of the division of state police to negotiate and enter into agreements with other jurisdictions to recognize in those jurisdictions the validity of the license to carry issued in this state.


    IV. Repeals the requirement to obtain a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver.


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    Explanation: Matter added to current law appears in bold italics.
    Matter removed from current law appears [in brackets and struckthrough.]
    Matter which is either (a) all new or (b) repealed and reenacted appears in regular type.
    17-0140
    04/09

    STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

    In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Seventeen

    AN ACT repealing the licensing requirement for carrying a concealed pistol or revolver.

    Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

    1 Pistols and Revolvers; License to Carry. Amend RSA 159:6 to read as follows:
    159:6 License to Carry.
    I.(a) The selectmen of a town, the mayor or chief of police of a city or a full-time police officer designated by them respectively, the county sheriff for a resident of an unincorporated place, or the county sheriff if designated by the selectmen of a town that has no police chief, upon application of any resident of such town, city, or unincorporated place, or the director of state police, or some person designated by such director, upon application of a nonresident, shall issue a license to such applicant authorizing the applicant to carry a loaded pistol or revolver in this state for not less than [4] 5 years from the date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to the applicant’s person or property or has any proper purpose, [and that the applicant is a suitable person to be licensed] unless the applicant is prohibited by New Hampshire or federal statute from possessing a firearm. Hunting, target shooting, or self-defense shall be considered a proper purpose. The license shall be valid for all allowable purposes regardless of the purpose for which it was originally issued.
    (b) The license shall be in duplicate and shall bear the name, address, description, and signature of the licensee. The original shall be delivered to the licensee and the duplicate shall be preserved by the people issuing the same for [4] 5 years. When required, license renewal shall take place within the month of the [fourth] fifth anniversary of the license holder’s date of birth following the date of issuance. The license shall be issued within 14 days after application, and, if such application is denied, the reason for such denial shall be stated in writing, the original of which such writing shall be delivered to the applicant, and a copy kept in the office of the person to whom the application was made. The fee for licenses issued to residents of the state shall be $10, which fee shall be for the use of the town or city granting said licenses; the fee for licenses granted to out-of-state residents shall be $100, which fee shall be for the use of the state. The director of state police is hereby authorized and directed to prepare forms for the licenses required under this chapter and forms for the application for such licenses and to supply the same to officials of the cities and towns authorized to issue the licenses. The form shall require no more information than was required on the state of New Hampshire application for pistol/revolver license, form DSSP 85, as revised in December 2009. No other forms shall be used by officials of cities and towns. The cost of the forms shall be paid out of the fees received from nonresident licenses.
    II. No photograph or fingerprint shall be required or used as a basis to grant, deny, or renew a license to carry for a resident or nonresident, unless requested by the applicant.
    III. The availability of a license to carry a loaded pistol or revolver under this section or under any other provision of law shall not be construed to impose a prohibition on the unlicensed transport or carry of a firearm in a vehicle, or on or about one’s person, whether openly or concealed, loaded or unloaded, by a resident, nonresident, or alien if that individual is not otherwise prohibited by statute from possessing a firearm in the state of New Hampshire.
    2 Pistols and Revolvers; Reciprocity. RSA 159:6-d is repealed and reenacted to read as follows:
    159:6-d Reciprocity. The director of the division of state police shall negotiate and enter into reciprocal agreements with other jurisdictions to recognize in those jurisdictions the validity of the license issued under RSA 159:6. The director shall apply to every jurisdiction with which New Hampshire does not have a reciprocity agreement, at least once every 5 years to obtain recognition in those jurisdictions of the license issued under RSA 159:6. Any such agreement executed shall not expire unless an expiration date is required under the statutes of the reciprocal jurisdiction.
    3 Repeal. RSA 159:4, relative to requiring a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver, is repealed.
    4 Effective Date. This act shall take effect upon its passage.

    LBAO
    17-0140
    12/30/16

    SB 12-FN- FISCAL NOTE
    AS INTRODUCED

    AN ACT repealing the licensing requirement for carrying a concealed pistol or revolver.

    FISCAL IMPACT: [ X ] State [ X ] County [ X ] Local [ ] None
    Estimated Increase / (Decrease)
    STATE: FY 2018 FY 2019 FY 2020 FY 2021
    Appropriation $0 $0 $0 $0
    Revenue Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease
    Expenditures Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease
    Funding Source: [ X ] General [ ] Education [ ] Highway [ X ] Other
    COUNTY:
    Revenue $0 $0 $0 $0
    Expenditures Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminalbe Decrease Indeterminable Decrease
    LOCAL:
    Revenue Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease
    Expenditures Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease Indeterminable Decrease

    METHODOLOGY:
    This bill increases the length of time for which a license to carry a pistol or revolver is valid; allows a person to carry a loaded, concealed pistol or revolver without a license unless such person is otherwise prohibited by New Hampshire statute; requires the director of the division of state police to negotiate and enter into agreements with other jurisdictions to recognize in those jurisdictions the validity of the license to carry issued in this state; and repeals the requirement to obtain a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver.
    The State Police Permits and Licensing Unit issued 8,923 non-resident licenses in FY 2016. The four year license at a cost of $100 has generated nearly $1,000,000 of revenue deposited into the general fund in each of the last three fiscal years. The repeal of RSA 159:4 and the proposed change from a four year license to a five year license in RSA 159:6 would result in a significant decline in general fund revenue. Although a non-resident pistol license would still be available under the proposed law, and would extend the expiration from one year to five years, it would not be required under the amended version of RSA 159:6. Therefore, it would be highly likely that the number of licenses issued would drop dramatically and result in a significant reduction of revenue to the general fund, likely to be close to the total amount of revenue currently received. There would be less permits to issue, therefore, there would be an expenditure decrease as less resources would be needed. However, the amount of revenue decrease is indeterminable, and as a result, the associated amount of the expenditure decrease is also indeterminable.
    NH resident pistol licenses are issued locally with a cost of $10 for a four-year license. This revenue total is indeterminable as there is no mechanism in place to track and obtain this figure. Currently, this revenue is designated for the use of the local law enforcement agencies. The amendment to RSA 159:6 extends the expiration of this license by one year, and as with non-resident pistol licenses, the need to obtain a resident pistol license would be obsolete other than for the purpose of utilizing reciprocity agreements within other states. The reenacted version of RSA 159:6 would dramatically reduce this funding source to local cities and towns. The NH Municipal Association states that most municipalities issue between 20 to 400 licenses annually, with smaller towns issuing fewer and larger cities issuing more. Cities like Manchester and Nashua typically issue about 1,500 resident pistol licenses each year. They would potentially also require less resources towards issuance of permits, however, the amount is unknown due to the revenue decrease being indeterminable.

    This bill also removes penalties that may have an impact on the New Hampshire judicial and correctional systems. There is no method to determine how many charges will not be brought as a result of the changes contained in this bill to determine the fiscal impact on expenditures. However, the entities impacted have provided the potential costs associated with these penalties below.

    Judicial Branch FY 2018 FY 2019
    Class B Misdemeanor $49 $50
    Class A Misdemeanor $71 $72
    Routine Criminal Felony Case $451 $456
    Appeals Varies Varies
    It should be noted average case cost estimates for FY 2018 and FY 2019 are based on data that is more than ten years old and does not reflect changes to the courts over that same period of time or the impact these changes may have on processing the various case types. An unspecified misdemeanor can be either class A or class B, with the presumption being a class B misdemeanor.
    Department of Corrections
    FY 2016 Average Cost of Incarcerating an Individual $35,832 $35,832
    FY 2016 Average Cost of Supervising an Individual on Parole/Probation $573 $573
    NH Association of Counties
    County Prosecution Costs Indeterminable Indeterminable
    Estimated Average Daily Cost of Incarcerating an Individual $85 to $110 $85 to $110

    The Judicial Council assumes the indigent delivery system handles an insignificant number of concealed carry cases that are not accompanied by some other criminal offense that trigger the right to appointed counsel at the State's expense. Therefore, the Council does not anticipate this bill will have an impact on the Council's expenditures.

    Many offenses are prosecuted by local and county prosecutors. When the Department of Justice has prosecutorial responsibility or is involved in an appeal, the Department would likely absorb the cost within its existing budget. Therefore, it is not anticipated this bill will impact the Department's expenditures.

    AGENCIES CONTACTED:
    Judicial Branch, Departments of Safety, Corrections and Justice, Judicial Council, New Hampshire Association of Counties, New Hampshire Municipal Association

    https://legiscan.com/NH/text/SB12/2017
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    Congrats. N.C. has one in the works. I don't know how far it will get and the are still plenty of restrictions.

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    Ten North Carolina Republican legislators want handgun owners to be able to carry their weapons concealed without a permit.

    House Bill 69, the “Constitution Carry Act,” would remove the concealed-carry permit requirement for handguns, but not for larger firearms.

    A handgun is defined by the bill as “a firearm that has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand.” Any U.S. citizen 18 years or older would be able to carry a concealed handgun under the proposed legislation unless otherwise disallowed by state or federal law.

    In North Carolina, concealed carry of a handgun without a permit is a Class 2 misdemeanor for a first offense and a Class H felony for a subsequent offense.

    Lawmakers proposed lifting permit requirements last year in the form of a constitutional amendment that would go to voters for consideration, but it never received a hearing.

    Concealed carry of handguns still would have some limitations if the bill were to pass.

    It would be illegal to concealed carry or have a dangerous weapon at all if the person is participating in, affiliated with or present as a spectator at a parade or funeral.

    It also would be illegal to concealed carry a handgun in: any place where alcoholic drinks are sold and consumed and where firearms are not allowed; on the premises of the State Capitol, Governor’s Mansion or Western Residence of the governor; in courthouses; at picket lines and certain demonstrations; and some other areas.

    Under the bill, it would be illegal to concealed carry while drinking alcohol, or any time while the carrier has any alcohol or controlled substance in their system.

    Concealed carriers would also have to keep an identification on them at all times, disclose to any law enforcement officer who approaches or addresses them that they are carrying a concealed handgun, and show the officer their ID upon request.

    A “conspicuous notice or statement” posted by the property owner would be required to prevent someone from concealed carrying on their property. Law enforcement would be an exception to this limitation.

    It would still be illegal to concealed carry a bowie knife, dirk, dagger, sling shot, loaded cane, metal knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun or other deadly weapons except on a person’s private property. Pocket knives that cannot be opened by “a throwing, explosive or spring action” are permitted.

    Some gun owners still may want to consider obtaining a concealed handgun permit, according to the bill, since it makes it more convenient to concealed carry when traveling outside North Carolina and makes buying a firearm more efficient.

    The bill’s sponsors include Reps. Larry G. Pittman of Concord, Michael Speciale of New Bern, Beverly G. Boswell of Dare County and Jay Adams of Hickory.

    Calls and emails to the bill’s primary sponsors were not immediately returned Thursday.

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/pol...#storylink=cpy
    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/pol...131771434.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Congrats. N.C. has one in the works. I don't know how far it will get and the are still plenty of restrictions.
    It took us many years to get this in NH. We had the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill ever in NH in the 2011/2012 session. However, the NRA came in, said it was too pro-liberty, and demanded we add restrictions. The Republican senators throw up their hands at the confusion and the bill died. We finally told the NRA to stop trying to push the gun control that Republicans pass in other states on us. In 2015 and 2016, we passed the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill in both legislative bodies, only to have the governor veto the bills. This time we got a governor that campaigned in favor of CC. It is still the cleanest bill. We have no age restriction. We have no residency restriction. We have no duty to inform the police restriction. It was a long journey but we are about to be the model all hardcore gun activists want to follow. Right now there are zero states with clean Constitutional Carry and a license/permit still in place for those wishing to carry outside of the state, but there is about to be one Pretty soon the border states of VT/NH will be the only states with what mean people really consider to be CC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    It took us many years to get this in NH. We had the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill ever in NH in the 2011/2012 session. However, the NRA came in, said it was too pro-liberty, and demanded we add restrictions. The Republican senators throw up their hands at the confusion and the bill died. We finally told the NRA to stop trying to push the gun control that Republicans pass in other states on us. In 2015 and 2016, we passed the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill in both legislative bodies, only to have the governor veto the bills. This time we got a governor that campaigned in favor of CC. It is still the cleanest bill. We have no age restriction. We have no residency restriction. We have no duty to inform the police restriction. It was a long journey but we are about to be the model all hardcore gun activists want to follow. Right now there are zero states with clean Constitutional Carry and a license/permit still in place for those wishing to carry outside of the state, but there is about to be one Pretty soon the border states of VT/NH will be the only states with what mean people really consider to be CC
    Maine as well.

    All three northern New England states will all be CC.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Maine as well.

    All three northern New England states will all be CC.
    The Maine law isn't clean. Don't get me wrong, it isn't as flawed as the Wyoming law, but it has two problems. It has an age restriction, plus there is a duty to tell the police if they pull you over while driving and you are carrying concealed but don't have a license/permit to conceal carry. But Maine had a Democrat house when it passed, so it needed to be highly watered down to get passed. I understand why Maine doesn't have a clean bill. All of the other states passed it with a GOP house and GOP senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    It took us many years to get this in NH. We had the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill ever in NH in the 2011/2012 session. However, the NRA came in, said it was too pro-liberty, and demanded we add restrictions. The Republican senators throw up their hands at the confusion and the bill died. We finally told the NRA to stop trying to push the gun control that Republicans pass in other states on us. In 2015 and 2016, we passed the cleanest Constitutional Carry bill in both legislative bodies, only to have the governor veto the bills. This time we got a governor that campaigned in favor of CC. It is still the cleanest bill. We have no age restriction. We have no residency restriction. We have no duty to inform the police restriction. It was a long journey but we are about to be the model all hardcore gun activists want to follow. Right now there are zero states with clean Constitutional Carry and a license/permit still in place for those wishing to carry outside of the state, but there is about to be one Pretty soon the border states of VT/NH will be the only states with what mean people really consider to be CC
    Outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    The Maine law isn't clean. Don't get me wrong, it isn't as flawed as the Wyoming law, but it has two problems. It has an age restriction, plus there is a duty to tell the police if they pull you over while driving and you are carrying concealed but don't have a license/permit to conceal carry. But Maine had a Democrat house when it passed, so it needed to be highly watered down to get passed. I understand why Maine doesn't have a clean bill. All of the other states passed it with a GOP house and GOP senate.
    And the woeman GOP gov. of OK just vetoed Oklahoma's CC bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And the woeman GOP gov. of OK just vetoed Oklahoma's CC bill.
    I don't understand why anyone has a problem with it. The law of Nation is "shall not be infringed." The law of the individual is "shall not be infringed." I carry. Sometimes open, sometimes concealed. It's a right of God and Nature's law. And I'll die defending it. I don't understand why this is so hard for others. Laws of Man don't mean $#@!.
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    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And the woeman GOP gov. of OK just vetoed Oklahoma's CC bill.
    OK doesn't have good gun laws. This bill, even though it is a 21+ or military bill that discriminates against 14 year olds, 17 year olds, and even 20 year olds, is really needed in OK. Gun laws need years of improvements. The Republican governor their kept vetoing gun reforms, so hopefully the next governor isn't as anti-gun.
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    Good, though not great. I do not care that it specifies "pistol[s] or revolver[s]" as this is too narrow. Should just read "weapons".
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Uncle Andy's version:

    Bill Text: Lucky 13

    <name the state> Senate Bill 13


    Name-The-State Legislature page for SB132


    Bill Title: Decriminalization of the keeping and bearing of any arms in deference to the Rightful Claims of Free Men.
    Spectrum:

    Status: None as yet

    Download: Fantasy Bill SB13-Introduced.html
    SB 13 AS INTRODUCED


    20?? SESSION



    SENATE BILL 13

    AN ACT explicitly decriminalizing the keeping and bearing of arms by Free Men in deference to and respect of their inherently just right and claims to do so.

    SPONSORS: Yeah, right.

    COMMITTEE: ?????

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    ANALYSIS

    This bill:

    I. Decriminalizes the act of bearing arms by any Free Man.

    II. Establishes the aggravating factors for crimes committed with weapons by those under criminal restriction.


    III. Establishes the crimes committed by any government official who attempts to interfere with the rightful bearing of weapons by Free Men in any public space


    IV. Repeals the requirement to obtain a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver.


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    STATE OF YouNameIt

    In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and WhoCanTell

    AN ACT decriminlaizing the bearing of arms by Free Men

    I

    Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

    1 No Free Man shall be disbarred from his inherent right to defend himself. By direct implication, he may not be disbarred the right to acquire, keep, and bear the means of affecting such defense, as his validly and non-criminally applied abilities may allow to so provide for himself.

    2 For the purposes of this act, to be "under Criminal Debt" shall apply to any man duly convicted of a felonious act and who is physically incarcerated in a jail or prison.

    3 Any man not under Criminal Debt shall be free to exercise his right to keep and bear arms for all Lawful purposes.

    4 Those not incarcerated shall not be considered as "under Criminal Debt", the exception to this applying to those who have escaped incarceration without authority to do so. Such escapees shall not qualify for Free Man status.

    5 Those not under Criminal Debt, yet who remain under some restriction that may include but not be limited to probation and parole, shall incur a grossly aggravating factor in the event they are duly convicted of committing a felonious criminal act while armed and under restricted status.

    6 Any government official that interferes with any Free Man's bearing of arms while not in the commission of a felonious act shall be guilty of a first degree felony, punishable by not less than six months in prison or jail, and not more than one year with loss of all pension and benefits, as well as their title, position, and office, such as may apply in any give instance. Such people as having committed such an affront to the rights and valid claims of Free Men shall further be disbarred any governmental position, whether as a direct or indirect appointee, hire, elected official, contractor, or other instrument of governance for a period of not less than ten years and not more than forty. These specifications apply only to the factor of interference with the right to keep and bear arms and shall not apply or limit or otherwise mitigate any other crimes committed against a Free Man by any governmental official, employee, or other agent.

    7. Any Free Man bringing a false charge of unjust and uninvited interference against any government official shall, upon being duly convicted of same, serve not less than three months in jail or prison and not more than six months.

    8 Due conviction of a Free Man of a felonious act shall demote his status to that of Crimina and place him under Criminal Debt for the time for which he shall be physically incarcerated in a jail or prison. At the moment of his release, he shall return once again to a status of Free Man, with possibly temporary restrictions.

    II

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    III

    1 The state shall continue to make available, at nominal cost, permits to carry weapons for those seeking the protections of Law, such as they may exist at any given time, for those seeking to leave the physical boundaries of the state.

    2 These permits shall be valid for not less than twenty years

    3 The state shall make every valid effort to secure reciprocity agreements with as many other states as possible such that the recognized, guaranteed, and protected rights of a Free Man to keep and bear arms shall be held sacrosanct and free from violation.

    4 The state shall demure to any federal statute that is enacted such that it more broadly protects and guarantees the individual right to keep and bear arms.

    5 The state shall ignore and actively defy any federal statute that more narrowly restricts the right to keep and bear arms.

    6 Any Federal governmental agency or official or employee thereof acting to enforce any Federal statute that conflicts with the broad liberties protected within the specifications herein shall be guilty of a first-class felony and upon due conviction shall be sentenced to no less than twenty years in a state penitentiary, and not more than forty years.

    7 Any federal official whose interference in the rightful bearing of arms of a Free Man not engaged in the commission of a felonious act, and whose further actions result in the death of such a Free Man shall be guilty of a felony and upon due conviction serve life in prison with no possibility of release for that term.

    IV The requirement to obtain a permit to exercise one's inherent right to keep and bear arms is hereby repealed for all time.


    It's very rough, but gives one the right ideas.
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    Pray for reset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Good, though not great. I do not care that it specifies "pistol[s] or revolver[s]" as this is too narrow. Should just read "weapons".
    Carrying long arms openly or concealed was not prohibited and required no "permit".

    It's damn good, best in the nation in fact.

    But it can always be better.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 05-28-2018 at 09:15 AM.



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    Nice
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    Loving this thread!



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