Study: Washington Interventions Have Killed 20-30 Million People in 37 Nations since WWII

[AZJoe]

Report: Washington Interventions Have Killed 20-30 Million People in 37 Nations since WWII
https://popularresistance.org/us-has...ns-since-wwii/

This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. …

The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. … between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan. … The remaining deaths were in smaller ones which constitute over half the total number of nations. Virtually all parts of the world have been the target of U.S. intervention.

The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.

To the families and friends of these victims it makes little difference whether the causes were U.S. military action, proxy military forces, the provision of U.S. military supplies or advisors, or other ways … And the pain and anger is spread even further. Some authorities estimate that there are as many as 10 wounded for each person who dies in wars. …

It is essential that Americans learn more about this topic We cannot allow history to say [Americans chose not to know] …

“How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” The answer is: possibly 10,000. …

More detailed info on each of the 37 VICTIM NATIONS: From Afghanistan to Angola, Chad, Congo, Sudan, to Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Cambodia, Columbia, Cuba, Chile, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Indonesia, to Iraq, to Korea, Laos, Nicaragua, Panama, to Vietnam, to Yugoslavia and more https://popularresistance.org/us-has...ns-since-wwii/

[CaptUSA]

Well, at least we police the rest of the world like we do our own. Can't say we're discriminatory. And that's really what matters, right? Equal opportunity destruction.

So glad my grandkids will still be footing the bill for all of this.

[Pericles]

Proof that anybody can post any amount of crap on a website and somebody else will refer to that as truth.

One of the more outrageous claims I have seen, for the UN population figures for Iraq to be true and for the US caused deaths to be true, every female of child bearing age in Iraq would have to have had a baby every three years for the past 15 years. Do we see average families in Iraq with at least 5 children?

[Zippyjuan]

This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. …

Including US and allied deaths, estimated death toll from Vietnam/ Cambodia/ Laos was 1.3 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Subtract US deaths and about one million.

Korea? Both sides combined for an estimated 1.2 million. Again, subtracting out US deaths, about one million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

If the figures in the OP are correct, that leaves about 8- 13 million killed in Iraq wars. In 1990, when the first Iraq war started, Iraq's population was 17 million. If true, the US killed off up to 75% of the Iraqi population.

I call BS.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Including US and allied deaths, estimated death toll from Vietnam/ Cambodia/ Laos was 1.3 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Subtract US deaths and about one million.

Korea? Both sides combined for an estimated 1.2 million. Again, subtracting out US deaths, about one million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

If the figures in the OP are correct, that leaves about 8- 13 million killed in Iraq wars. In 1990, when the first Iraq war started, Iraq's population was 17 million. If true, the US killed off up to 75% of the Iraqi population.

I call BS.

It cited other conflicts, incursions, and interventions, but you probably did not bother to read. Just hurriedly went to "wikipedia" to post something contrary. Which is what you always do. Neg rep for that.

[AZJoe]

Proof that anybody can post any amount of crap on a website and somebody else will refer to that as truth.

One of the more outrageous claims I have seen, for the UN population figures for Iraq to be true and for the US caused deaths to be true, every female of child bearing age in Iraq would have to have had a baby every three years for the past 15 years. Do we see average families in Iraq with at least 5 children?

This comment is an example of bad math, or misreading the report. Pericles is claiming the report requires that 15 million babies must have been born in Iraq since 2003.

The report indicates total of 654,000 Iraq deaths from intervention since 2003 (avg. less than 50k/yr or <.15%/yr). (This number is only half of some calculations such as the OBR Study which put the number over 1.2 million during that time period.) Further it does not specify what of that number were children versus adults or ages. In a nation of over 33 million, that in no way requires 15 million babies must be born.

[AZJoe]

Including US and allied deaths, estimated death toll from Vietnam/ Cambodia/ Laos was 1.3 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Subtract US deaths and about one million.

Korea? Both sides combined for an estimated 1.2 million. Again, subtracting out US deaths, about one million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War ...

I call BS.

There is definitely some BS, and its coming from Zippy. The article re Vietnam that Zippy cites gives a range between 1.5 million to 3.6 million. The 1.3 million Zippy cites is a low estimate and does not even include Laos or Cambodia. Further, even the US defense secretary during the war, Robert McNamara put the Vietnamese death toll at 3.4 million.

"According to a Vietnamese government statement in 1995 the number of deaths of civilians and military personnel during the Vietnam War was 5.1 million. (2)Since deaths in Cambodia and Laos were about 2.7 million (See Cambodia and Laos) the estimated total for the Vietnam War is 7.8 million.

The Virtual Truth Commission provides a total for the war of 5 million, (3) and Robert McNamara, former Secretary Defense, according to the New York Times Magazine says that the number of Vietnamese dead is 3.4 million. (4,5)"

Korea: "During the war the bulk of the deaths were South Koreans, North Koreans and Chinese. Four sources give deaths counts ranging from 1.8 to 4.5 million. (3,4,5,6) Another source gives a total of 4 million but does not identify to which nation they belonged. (7) John H. Kim, a U.S. Army veteran and the Chair of the Korea Committee of Veterans for Peace, stated in an article that during the Korean War “the U.S. Army, Air Force and Navy were directly involved in the killing of about three million civilians – both South and North Koreans – at many locations throughout Korea…It is reported that the U.S. dropped some 650,000 tons of bombs, including 43,000 tons of napalm bombs, during the Korean War.”

Lastly, trying to argue that a particular intervention only mass killed 1.3 million people instead of more, is not a vindication for mass killings. Its like trying to defend 9/11 by arguing the death toll is not as high as some people calculate.