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    Commando dies in U.S. raid in Yemen, first military op OK'd by Trump

    More of Trump ending US involvement in foreign countries. First US commando raid on Yemen since 2014.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15D08J

    A U.S. commando died and three others were wounded a deadly dawn raid on the al Qaeda militant group in southern Yemen on Sunday, which was the first military operation authorized by U.S. President Donald Trump.

    The U.S. military said 14 militants died in the attack on a powerful al Qaeda branch that has been a frequent target of U.S. drone strikes. Medics at the scene, however, said around 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed.

    The gunbattle in the rural Yakla district of al-Bayda province killed a senior leader in Yemen's al Qaeda branch, Abdulraoof al-Dhahab, along with other militants, al Qaeda said.

    Eight-year-old Anwar al-Awlaki, the daughter of U.S.-born Yemeni preacher and al Qaeda ideologue Anwar al-Awlaki, was among the children who died in the raid, according to her grandfather. Her father was killed in a U.S. drone strike in 2011.

    "She was hit with a bullet in her neck and suffered for two hours," Nasser al-Awlaki told Reuters. "Why kill children? This is the new (U.S.) administration - it's very sad, a big crime,"

    The U.S. military said in a statement that the raid netted "information that will likely provide insight into the planning of future terror plots."

    The American elite forces did not seize any militants or take any prisoners offsite, said a U.S. military official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    The three commandos who were injured were hurt when a military aircraft experienced a hard landing and was "intentionally destroyed in place," the Pentagon said.

    DAWN ATTACK

    "The operation began at dawn when a drone bombed the home of Abdulraoof al-Dhahab and then helicopters flew up and unloaded paratroopers at his house and killed everyone inside," said one resident, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    "Next, the gunmen opened fire at the U.S. soldiers who left the area, and the helicopters bombed the gunmen and a number of homes and led to a large number of casualties."

    A Yemeni security officer and a local official corroborated that account. Fahd, a local resident who asked that only his first name be used, said several bodies remained under debris and that houses and the local mosque were damaged in the attack.

    In a message on its official Telegram messaging account, al Qaeda mourned al-Dhahab as a "holy warrior" and other slain militants, without specifying how many of its fighters were killed.

    American forces have not conducted any special operations in Yemen since December 2014, months before nearly two years of civil war rendered the country even more dangerous and offered al Qaeda leeway to expand into more lawless areas.

    The United States conducted dozens of drone strikes in Yemen throughout Barack Obama's presidency to combat al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, regarded as one of the global militant group's most dangerous branches.

    The local al Qaeda unit organized the Charlie Hebdo magazine attack in Paris in 2015 and has repeatedly tried to down U.S. airliners.



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    Truth: US has been in Yemen bombing/battling/droning Al Qaeda since Bush.

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    Presidential Statement:


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Truth: US has been in Yemen bombing/battling/droning Al Qaeda since Bush.
    Like we didn't know that.....
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Like we didn't know that.....
    Zippy seems to be unaware of that.
    ...

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    That was noted in the article.
    American forces have not conducted any special operations in Yemen since December 2014, months before nearly two years of civil war rendered the country even more dangerous and offered al Qaeda leeway to expand into more lawless areas.

    The United States conducted dozens of drone strikes in Yemen throughout Barack Obama's presidency to combat al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, regarded as one of the global militant group's most dangerous branches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Zippy seems to be unaware of that.
    If he had posted the same kind of thread about Obama taking action in Iraq 8 years ago no one would have minded.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Obama action: Drone King.
    Trump action: true American.

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    But, but, Trump drove all the neocons back into the Democratic Party!!!
    Stop believing stupid things



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    Trump will have to navigate carefully and expeditiously to get out of this mess and landmines left behind in Yemen, Syria and elsewhere by DGP's dumb, pro-ISIS, destabilization policies of many years. Calling military chiefs to plan eradication of neocons supported ISIS terrorists is a good first step.


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    Edit to add:

    No one is saying , at least in MSM, that Obama may have laid a trap for Trump to get him entangled in past policies but if Chinese MSM is as accurate as US MSM, this is not looking good:

    25 civilians killed in US anti-terror raid in Yemen
    Xinhua-Jan 29, 2017
    A Yemeni man walks near a painting of US drone on the wall in Sanaa, Yemen, on Jan. 29, 2017. At least 25 civilians were killed in the latest ...


    Un-related

    Team Obama keeps laying new land mines for Trump
    nypost.com/2017/01/16/team-obama-keeps-laying-new-landmines-for-trump/
    Jan 16, 2017 - For all President Obama's claims to want a smooth transition to the new administration, his people have been laying plenty of land mines for ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    If he had posted the same kind of thread about Obama taking action in Iraq 8 years ago no one would have minded.
    To WILL
    Grr. It' looks like I will have to start siding with Zippy when he is anti-war.

    To ZIPPY:
    Welcome to the anti-war movement. A lot has happened in your 8 year slumber.

    To TRUMP:
    BRING THE BOYS HOME!!!
    ...

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    Was the nine year old girl an american citizen like her dad and brother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Trump will have to navigate carefully and expeditiously to get out of this mess and landmines left behind in Yemen, Syria and elsewhere by DGP's dumb, pro-ISIS, destabilization policies of many years. Calling military chiefs to plan eradication of neocons supported ISIS terrorists is a good first step.


    While You Were Debating Obama’s ‘Selfie,’ U.S. Drones Killed 13+ Yemen Wedding Guests



    The 12-Year War: 73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan Occured on Obama's Watch
    Obama isn't potus anymore. This was on Trump's watch and ok'd by Trump. You can't blame Obama here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You can't blame Obama here.
    Oh they'll find a way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    More of Trump ending US involvement in foreign countries.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh they'll find a way.

    So the two biggest forum cheerleaders for Obama did not utter a peep about war for years, but now all of the sudden foreign policy and war is a problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    So the two biggest cheerleaders for Obama did not utter a peep for years, but now all of the sudden foreign policy and war is a problem.
    Anti-war left is showing up in impressive numbers out of sudden.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Anti-war left is showing up in impressive numbers out of sudden.
    The Pro war right is baring its teeth. I don't blame people for wanting to survive, I just don't understand the meaning after we abandon all political philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Obama action: Drone King.
    Trump action: true American.

    ZippyJuan:

    Obama: True American
    Trump: Drone King
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    TheCount,

    Didn't you vote for Democrat Thomas Dixon in your 2016 senate race? You voted for Hillary Clinton, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    lol triggered trumpies. The silly attempts to divert attention from the FACT that trump has come out of the gate as a full-tilt red-faced neocon warmonger, splattering the blood of women and children across 4 countries in his first week.

    I guess as long as he keeps short brown people from crossing the border we're on track.

    Anybody notice how the MSM is all about the immigration shenanigans and burying the war stories?
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Well, Trump is making plenty of significant changes elsewhere so he's clearly not bound to continue these dumb wars. I'd like to see change in Yemen but there's no reason to believe there will be. Trump may even be more aggressive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by milgram View Post
    Well, Trump is making plenty of significant changes elsewhere. I'd like to see change in Yemen but there's no reason to believe there will be. Trump may even be more aggressive...
    you'll see some regime change

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    Do they have oil in Yemen?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    [9 years of nonsense]

    Do you think the navy put this together in one week? It takes quite a bit longer to plan something like this. It was planned under your candidate Obama.

    Sort of funny how you never mentioned these stories when your candidate was president.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members



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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Do you think the navy put this together in one week? It takes quite a bit longer to plan something like this. It was planned under your candidate Obama.

    Sort of funny how you never mentioned these stories when your candidate was president.
    Trump didn't plan running for president last week either, that's why in 2011 he said he would run 3rd party if Ron Paul was the nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Trump didn't plan running for president last week either, that's why in 2011 he said he would run 3rd party if Ron Paul was the nominee.
    Don't know what that means.


    Aren't you a British guy, born in the UK? Or living in the UK?
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 01-29-2017 at 05:53 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Do they have oil in Yemen?
    Some. Not much. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...d-figures.html

    Yemen had proven oil reserves of around 2.7bn barrels at the end of 2009, equal to just 0.2pc of global reserves, according to the BP Statistical Review
    Daily oil production fell to 298,000 bpd in 2009, or just 0.4pc of the global total, continuing the steady decline in output from a peak of 457,000 bpd in 2002, according to BP

    Falling oil revenues has hindered the government's ability to provide basic public services, which has stoked anti-government sentiment
    Oil reserves and production lie mainly in Jannah and Iyad in the centre of the Yemen, Marib-Jawf in the north, and Shabwa and Masila in the south. The government estimates Masila holds about 84pc of the national total
    Oil is transported from Masila to Ash Shahir by a 90-mile pipeline with a capacity of 300,000 bpd, while the 130-mile Shabwa-Bir Ali pipeline carries up to 135,000 bpd from the Ayad-Shabwa block to the Bir Ali terminal on the Gulf of Aden

    Gas

    Yemen is the 16th largest seller of liquefied natural gas
    The country has proven gas reserves of 490bn cubic metres of gas, or about 0.3pc of the global total, according to BP statistics
    Most of the gas is found in the Marib-Jawf oilfields and it is mostly reinjected to enhance oil recovery. Gas production has been in decline since 2005
    Yemen LNG's export facility at Balhaf, which opened in 2009 and is led by French oil major Total, is the largest-ever industrial project in Yemen
    Proven reserves is the estimated amount of oil which can be recovered at today's market price with current technology (higher oil prices can make more oil economically viable to pump out). By comparison, the US uses seven billion barrels of oil a year. They could cover us for about four months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    We will bring freedom to Yemen, freedom zones!
    Will they be like the safe zones in Syria?

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    ZippyJuan:

    Obama: True American
    Trump: Drone King
    Do you have any opinion on the information in the original post or are you just going to continue to rent against the poster?

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