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    Anti-Tobacco idea in Russia

    How would you like this idea in Russia just is being pushed by few Duma legislators. That in the future for people who born in 2015, as they reach the age of majority (18) and till ages of their deaths, the sales of tobacco products will be banned. They will be carded and as their IDs will show DOB 2015 and up, no smokes will be sold to them, whether they 18, 21, 50, or even 100.
    Fellows here on Ron Paul Forums. I am not kidding, I read several times this proposed law in Russian news sites. How would you like this idea ?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...119-story.html

    Putin is not a stupid man, he never lets to turn the people against him.
    Last edited by Chomp; 01-22-2017 at 11:11 PM.



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    [QUOTE=Chomp;6402810]How would you like this idea in Russia just is being pushed by few Duma legislators. That in the future for people who born in 2015, as they reach the age of majority (18) and till ages of their deaths, the sales of tobacco products will be banned. They will be carded and as their IDs will show DOB 2015 and up, no smokes will be sold to them, whether they 18, 21, 50, or even 100.
    Fellows here on Ron Paul Forums. I am not kidding, I read several times this proposed law in Russian news sites. How would you like this idea ?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...119-story.html
    That is not smart for govt . as all those smokes will be sold as black market and the tax money collected will go to the country they are smuggled in from and not to the country they are sold in . Similar to retarded dry counties in the US that border another state . People go over and buy what they wish and the other gets the tax collected .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That is not smart for govt . as all those smokes will be sold as black market and the tax money collected will go to the country they are smuggled in from and not to the country they are sold in . Similar to retarded dry counties in the US that border another state . People go over and buy what they wish and the other gets the tax collected .
    That's right, but it also gives their law enforcement folks something to do. They might make more on fines and prison time than on the taxes that would have been paid.
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 01-23-2017 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post

    That's right, but it also gives their law enforcement folks something to do. They might make more on fines and prison time than on the taxes that would have been paid.
    True , the fines will be incredibly high to fund the para military secret cigarette police stasi swat teams .
    Do something Danke

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    Those few Duma guys lobby the same law with alcohol for the future. Actually these both insane ideas won't pass, before they might reach President Putin's desk. There is The Article 60 in the Second Amendment of The Constitution of Russian Federation. All citizens who turned age 18 have all basic adult rights in full which must not be infringed. The respect and obedience to the Constitution and law is strictly defended by the vast majority of Duma deputies and the president himself. There few Duma morons tried to abridge citizens rights by attempting to raise the drinking age in Russia to 21 and one time there was an attempt for smoking at 21. All this was crashed. The people were very angry, too. Russia indeed respects her Constitution and law unlike our wicked United States.

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    It has been the continuous agenda of social controllers for over 100 years.

    Nazis were the first to push this $#@!,, those of same ilk still do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    That's right, but it also gives their law enforcement folks something to do. They might make more on fines and prison time than on the taxes that would have been paid.
    such a quandry

    to loot the people by tax or fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It has been the continuous agenda of social controllers for over 100 years.

    Nazis were the first to push this $#@!,, those of same ilk still do.
    There is enough history about tobacco laws in Nazi Germany.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    How would you like this idea in Russia just is being pushed by few Duma legislators. That in the future for people who born in 2015, as they reach the age of majority (18) and till ages of their deaths, the sales of tobacco products will be banned. They will be carded and as their IDs will show DOB 2015 and up, no smokes will be sold to them, whether they 18, 21, 50, or even 100.
    Fellows here on Ron Paul Forums. I am not kidding, I read several times this proposed law in Russian news sites. How would you like this idea ?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...119-story.html

    Putin is not a stupid man, he never lets to turn the people against him.
    I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question.
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.
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    I missed out on the dick pills , they any good ?

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    hard to enforce, nearly impossible.

    but the govt will not lose tax money. the older will just buy for the younger, much as 21 year old's buy beer for 19 year old's

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    hard to enforce, nearly impossible.

    but the govt will not lose tax money. the older will just buy for the younger, much as 21 year old's buy beer for 19 year old's
    Even if the liberals go with the next step raising drinking age to 25. Young adults ages 18-24 won't stop drinking. They will get alcohol through their older friends and fake IDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    Even if the liberals go with the next step raising drinking age to 25. Young adults ages 18-24 won't stop drinking. They will get alcohol through their older friends and fake IDs.
    Then they better raise the military enlistment age. as well.

    If you're old enough to die for your country, then you're old enough to have a beer & a smoke.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Then they better raise the military enlistment age. as well.

    If you're old enough to die for your country, then you're old enough to have a beer & a smoke.
    The Libtards won't raise military and adulthood ages. They want the prejudice to create more chaos. Probably it is a part of conspiracy theory agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    How would you like this idea in Russia just is being pushed by few Duma legislators. That in the future for people who born in 2015, as they reach the age of majority (18) and till ages of their deaths, the sales of tobacco products will be banned. They will be carded and as their IDs will show DOB 2015 and up, no smokes will be sold to them, whether they 18, 21, 50, or even 100.
    Fellows here on Ron Paul Forums. I am not kidding, I read several times this proposed law in Russian news sites. How would you like this idea ?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...119-story.html

    Putin is not a stupid man, he never lets to turn the people against him.
    Potted tobacco plants will then become quite the rage.

    Ban that? People will find the way. They will do for no other reason than you said they couldn't. "$#@! YOU" tends to be a very popular notion with human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    The Libtards won't raise military and adulthood ages. They want the prejudice to create more chaos. Probably it is a part of conspiracy theory agenda.
    I cannot believe someone here actually used that term.

    I approach gob-smacked status. Note "approach".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    Those few Duma guys lobby the same law with alcohol for the future. Actually these both insane ideas won't pass, before they might reach President Putin's desk. There is The Article 60 in the Second Amendment of The Constitution of Russian Federation. All citizens who turned age 18 have all basic adult rights in full which must not be infringed.
    You mean the way they also had the right to free speech under the Soviet constitution?

    Well alrighty then.
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    Terrible idea, needless to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It has been the continuous agenda of social controllers for over 100 years.

    Nazis were the first to push this $#@!,, those of same ilk still do.
    They got it from the yankees (same place they got eugenics, incidentally).
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