View Poll Results: Should John Lewis be immune from criticism?

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  1. #31
    Lewis is an ignorant chump . I would never tweet him .
    Do something Danke



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  3. #32
    i'm w/Amash on this one

    i'm trying to post an Amash tweet, and if it doesn't show, it says "Dude, just stop" the Dude is our next president
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  6. #34
    Lewis can both be a civil rights hero and a stupid person.

  7. #35
    Yes, John Lewis is immune from every and all criticism in this black history month. Do you people not know who he is? he has earned that right because of the sacrifices he made to preserve your freedom. And if you insult him then you are a rabid cis gendered twart

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    i'm w/Amash on this one

    i'm trying to post an Amash tweet, and if it doesn't show, it says "Dude, just stop" the Dude is our next president
    I'm also with Amash on this.
    There is no spoon.

  9. #37
    This dude just goes OFF!!!!!! apparently 'Black Panthers' is a credential now? wat?




    DO NOT CLICK THIS VID. PUT DOWN THE MOUSE. WALK AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Consider that most of these "civil rights icons" have never held a job, yet are worth millions.
    Black Lives Matter Economic Platform:

    You have to read this!

    https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/

    Here's a few of the "lowlights":

    Progressive taxes on income to raise revenue more equitably: ◦Raise marginal tax rates for high earners, specifically the top percentile ( the top 1% have seen their effective tax rate reduced to around 20 percent, down from 90 percent in the 1960s). Begin by raising the top marginal rate first to 50 percent and then gradually up to 80 percent.
    ◦Remove income caps on payroll taxes that fund social security and unemployment insurance.
    ◦Raise corporate income taxes, especially on large corporations and end tax deferral for foreign income of multinational corporations.

    ◾Taxes on wealth to reduce the wealth inequality: ◦Increase taxes on capital to the point where they are higher than taxes on labor, as wealth inequality is greater than income inequality. Specifically: •Increase capital gains tax
    •Create anti-speculation tax on property transfers
    •Increase estate tax
    •Have states shift to an income-sensitized property tax that focuses on homes above a certain threshold and second homes
    •Impose a wealth tax (on tangible and financial assets)


    ◾Remove harmful tax breaks and tax undesirable activities instead: ◦Taxing “bads” not “goods”: shift from sales taxes to taxing externalities such as environmental damage, and make this approach income-sensitized to hold low-income people harmless.
    ◦Create a financial transaction tax on the trading of stocks, bonds, derivatives and currencies.
    ◦Assess and eliminate tax expenditures such as mortgage reduction for homes sold above a specified price threshold, health insurance exemption, investment-based retirement accounts, etc., and instead support wealth-building by households who don’t yet hold such assets.
    ◦Make low-wage employer pay penalty fees or levy a payroll tax rate proportional to wage disparity.
    ◦Expand the earned income tax credit.
    ◦Provide a universal child tax credit.
    ◦Create mechanisms for sharing tax revenues between neighboring localities to reduce tax flight and segregation.


    Federal Action:
    ◾Through a participatory process guided by the principle of racial and economic equity – create a federal working group or commission to propose a full scale overhaul on tax policy that increases racial and economic equity.
    ◾Develop and pass omnibus tax reform legislation in accordance with racial equity goals.
    ◾Expand progressivity of federal income taxes by creating more tax brackets and substantially increasing the marginal tax rate, thus producing a wider spread in rates between the lowest and highest brackets.
    ◾Eliminate all corporate loopholes and raise corporate income tax rates on large corporations
    ◾Create a wealth tax, eliminate capital gains tax breaks, and raise a tax on financial transactions.
    ◾Shift tax expenditures to help build the wealth of households of color.


    ◾We should develop and pass a $2 to $4 trillion policy that would both create government jobs for Black workers, and subsidize businesses to hire Black workers. The main targets of this effort would be the Congress, President, and Chairman of the Federal Reserve. This would have to be both a legislative campaign to move members of Congress, and direct public pressure campaign to get the President and Federal Chairman to act.
    ◾Pass legislation that moves formerly incarcerated people into a protected class and makes it illegal for public or private employers to discriminate against workers with a criminal background.
    ◾Remove barriers to employment by passing Ban the Box legislation on a federal level for both public and private employers.


    What is the problem?
    ◾Because land is treated as a commodity, a minority of wealthy corporations and families disproportionately owns land in the U.S. and the resources on top of it. 60 percent of land is privately owned, with the wealthiest half-a-percent owning 35.6 percent of this land and the wealthiest 10 percent owning nearly 80 percent of it.
    ◾While laws no longer explicitly exclude Black families and businesses from owning land in any part of the country, the failure to address past inequities only serves to perpetuate disproportionately high rates of Black poverty and landlessness.
    ◾There are next to no laws that ensure land is used to meet human needs in an equitable way; rather, the vast majority of laws protect and enhance profit making for owners who are wealthy and mostly White. ◦Through the legal construct of private land ownership (which grants landowners a great deal of leeway to determine the use of land), land and landed resources are used primarily to derive profits for owners.
    ◦Unable to think outside a market fundamentalist approach to maintaining and growing the local economy, local governments offer up public money and land to private investors to “create jobs” and develop and redevelop our housing, schools and, in general, our communities, with few restrictions.
    ◦The vast majority of publicly owned land gets redistributed to the highest bidder, feeding speculation. Land acquired by governments through tax foreclosures are auctioned, while land owned to meet community needs, such as public housing, schools and parks are increasingly sold off. Over 300,000 public housing units have been lost since 1990.
    ◦Public credits (through government-backed insurance and the tax code) protect investments in the development of land from losses, allowing private owners to benefit from the profits while socializing losses.
    ◦Land use planning and zoning only organize uses (for instance, for commercial and residential purposes), even reinforcing segregation by separating classes of residential uses. Inclusionary zoning laws are important, but don’t go far enough: setting aside land for middle income families, but too often nothing for families living on the lowest and fixed incomes).
    ◦Increasingly public decisions around planning and the distribution of public land and money for economic development is being consolidated and outsourced to non-transparent private entities (see LA for example).

    ◾The end results for families living in poverty – disproportionately Black and female – are economic dislocation (living far from jobs, grocery stores, and other life essentials), incomprehensible trade-offs of life’s essentials and/or the constant threat of displacement.

    What does this solution do?
    ◾Fair Development makes it a clear and comprehensive policy goal of meeting the human needs of all community members through the equitable distribution of the benefits of development, which takes precedence over market imperatives.
    ◾It considers in a coordinated way the location, investment and infrastructure needed to secure work with dignity, clean water, food security, access to healthcare, education and basic housing, and a healthy environment for all community members without exception.
    ◾It ensures public land, money and credit are used to meet first and foremost the greatest unmet needs within and across communities.
    ◾It prevents forced displacement and curbs speculation due to development, while putting control in the hands of the intended beneficiaries of development, particularly through prioritizing implementation of development through alternative, community-based ownership entities.
    ◾Decisions at all stages of development – planning, implementation and monitoring and enforcement – are made accountable and transparent to the people who are most impacted by them through deepening participatory public processes supported by outreach and education, particularly to historically excluded community members

    Federal Action:
    ◾Commit to the comprehensive goal of fair development.
    ◾In a coordinated way, review all tax credits, insurance systems and budgets concerning various elements of development (e.g., housing, schools, community, highways, and so on) and align around the goal of fair development with an emphasis on community land trusts, cooperatives and community control.
    ◾Require states meet standards of fair development to receive pass-through funding.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    America doesn't need another race-hustler. Happy MLK day assshole.
    He's in favor of reparations. That's all you need to know.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    Any "rights"-related organization evolves into this over time. Once you've achieved your short term goals, or can't progress further, there's nothing left to do. That means you have to add goals or change the ones you still have hanging around. If you admit that there's nothing left to do, you have no reason to exist at the level of popularity/notoriety that you enjoyed earlier. You'd be out of a job! So once women were integrated into the workforce and things got much more "gender neutral," NOW started becoming more and more insane with their stated goals. "Gay rights" groups got a lot of things normalized, but that would have been the end of the road, so now they are busy finding discrimination in every possible corner and painting it as the ultimate evil, while constantly adding more letters (remember when it was just LGBT? then LGBTQ? now it's up to LGBTIQ or LGBTQ+). Well, the same is true of "civil rights" groups (NAACP, etc.). In order to bring in money, you have to stay relevant, which means you have to be oppressed and offended.
    The problem is that they support bogus rights and violate true rights. It's not a "right" if you have steal someone's property to satisfy that "right".



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  14. #41
    Libs say his district is not crime infested. It's diverse.

  15. #42

    would-be respect becomes negated by frequent lying

    Currently, John Lewis is a way-overly-ass-kissed prima donna who constantly invokes his experiences from sixty years ago, especially when he wants to smear someone outside his own party. Nothing he (or anyone else on earth!) has done in the past, absolves him from being guilty of intentionally promoting hatred with vicious lies - aka - bearing false witness against his neighbor.

    October 2008 - re McCain & Palin
    John Lewis, invoking George Wallace, says McCain and Palin 'playing with fire'
    (quote)
    ..."What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.

    George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.

    As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all.They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better"

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...with_fire.html
    March 2010 - John Lewis re: Obamacare protestors (All claims made by CBC members in the following article are utterly false!)
    TEA PARTY PROTESTORS SCREAM ’NIGGER” AT BLACK CONGRESSMAN

    Demonstrators outside the U.S. Capitol, angry over the proposed health care bill, shouted "******" Saturday at U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia congressman and civil rights icon who was nearly beaten to death during an Alabama march in the 1960s.

    Protesters also shouted obscenities at other members of the Congressional Black Caucus, spat on at least one black lawmaker and confronted an openly gay congressman with taunts…

    "They were shouting, sort of harassing. But, it's okay, I've faced this before. It reminded me of the 60s. It was a lot of downright hate and anger and people being downright mean. It surprised me that people are so mean and we can't engage in a civil dialogue and debate."...

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...e24577294.html
    January 11 2017 - Testifying against Jeff Sessions
    John Lewis’ ENTIRE testimony consisted of a dramatic retelling of his recollections of the past - nothing at all to do with Jeff Sessions! Why was this even permitted?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Libs say his district is not crime infested. It's diverse.
    Makes sense.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    October 2008 - re McCain & Palin
    John Lewis, invoking George Wallace, says McCain and Palin 'playing with fire'
    (quote)
    ..."What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.

    George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.

    As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all.They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better"

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...with_fire.html



    March 2010 - John Lewis re: Obamacare protestors (All claims made by CBC members in the following article are utterly false!)

    TEA PARTY PROTESTORS SCREAM ’N-word” AT BLACK CONGRESSMAN

    Demonstrators outside the U.S. Capitol, angry over the proposed health care bill, shouted "******" Saturday at U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia congressman and civil rights icon who was nearly beaten to death during an Alabama march in the 1960s.

    Protesters also shouted obscenities at other members of the Congressional Black Caucus, spat on at least one black lawmaker and confronted an openly gay congressman with taunts…

    "They were shouting, sort of harassing. But, it's okay, I've faced this before. It reminded me of the 60s. It was a lot of downright hate and anger and people being downright mean. It surprised me that people are so mean and we can't engage in a civil dialogue and debate."...

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...e24577294.html



    Some of the views on both sides are getting bit extreme. Read these news yesterday elsewhere online and saw a comment where John Lewis was compared to fake "Trump supporting" Church burner.

    That fake news was discussed here few weeks ago. Lewis is a partisan politician and probably in pockets of Clinton camp but he is nothing like this McClinton dude.


  18. #45
    If you are standing with John Lewis, who is a career bureaucrat best known for helping enact a massive federal government powergrab in the 1960s, you are officially no longer a member of the liberty movement. You're just a butthurt hack failure. Period. End of story. The poll results are at least encouraging.

  19. #46
    Israel lobby is bringing out the big guns.. Marco Rubio, ADL and controversial Firster Lady are out with statements supporting JL:

    Rep. John Lewis Gets Support from Anti-Defamation League Amid Feud With Trump
    January 15, 2017

    Rubio Disappointed in How Trump Responded to Rep. Lewis
    Townhall-14 hours ago


    Michelle Obama sticks it to Trump, gets behind John Lewis
    anuary 16, 2017
    Add Michelle Obama to the list of Democrats taking the side of Rep. John Lewis against President-elect Donald Trump. In a tweet on Monday the first lady praised Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Rep. Lewis. It was a thinly veiled shot at Trump.

    The First Lady @FLOTUS

    Thinking of Dr. King and great leaders like @repjohnlewis who carry on his legacy. May their example be our call to action. -mo
    11:30 AM - 16 Jan 2017

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/01/...n-lewis-436412



    Trump should resist any temptation to unleas twitter storm against mo, she is a lady and a man is not supposed to get in a fight with a lady.




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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Lewis is an ignorant chump . I would never tweet him .
    He's quite iconic, you shoud have googled him before writing this post.


    Related

    Trump should've Googled John Lewis before he Tweeted
    thehill.com/blogs/.../314413-trump-shouldve-googled-john-lewis-before-he-tweeted
    2 days ago

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    He's quite iconic, you shoud have googled him before writing this post.


    Related

    Trump should've Googled John Lewis before he Tweeted
    thehill.com/blogs/.../314413-trump-shouldve-googled-john-lewis-before-he-tweeted
    2 days ago
    I have no need to google him to recall what an ignorant ass that tax tick has been for many , many years . I am a Great Patriot , if I recall , Lewis has been depriving his even more ignorant constituents of Constitutional representation for 31 years , while instead compiling an impressive record of voting for treasonous and illegal bills in aggression to other real americans and saying a lot of stupid $#@! . He is in fact , the enemy . In the form of other great Dems like Pelosi , Gore , Kerry , Reid , LBJ etc . he has worked tirelessly to spread poverty and ignorance while stealing from the productive . They should have an award named after him .
    Do something Danke



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  23. #49

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    That fake news was discussed here few weeks ago. Lewis is a partisan politician and probably in pockets of Clinton camp but he is nothing like this McClinton dude.

    I have noticed over the weeks that you have become an anti fake news crusader and in a way I think that is a good thing. My only problem is that now the anti fake news people are themselves spreading fake news. They shout "fake news" every time someone tries to correct them on their lies and sadly they get away with blatant lies.

    Anyway, I just happened to look into the image you posted in the post above. You called the New York times article fake news and I cannot figure out why. The headline is correct and I the went ahead to read the entire original article post on Nov 2 and still nothing about it was fake news. So this is just a reminder to you and everybody else using the fake news tag willy nilly to be very vigilant about what you post cos you don't want to appear like a hypocrite crying out about fake news when you are peddling said fake news.

    Original article

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/u...side.html?_r=0

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    If you are standing with John Lewis, who is a career bureaucrat best known for helping enact a massive federal government powergrab in the 1960s, you are officially no longer a member of the liberty movement. You're just a butthurt hack failure. Period. End of story. The poll results are at least encouraging.
    I say if you are not standing with John "the baptist" Lewis, you are a traitor to the liberty movement cos due to his efforts in the 60s, we are able to express our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. He freed us for the chains of big govt and delivered us from evil. The poll question should have been, "Would it be wrong not to literally kiss his ass whenever he said something stupid" and the answer should be 100% yes. You kiss his ass regardless of what he says, full stop

    That is how the tree of liberty is watered. If you think otherwise then there is something wrong with you.

  26. #52
    In essence it was fake news, for what they were suggesting... just as many many other NYT "news" stories from Iraq War Yellow Cake WMDs to bogus polls favoring SWC HIllary have been proven fake.

    [#FakeHate] 'Vote Trump' vandalism, fire at Mississippi church


    Would you rather it be called "FakeHate news" and not "fake news"?





    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    If you are standing with John Lewis, who is a career bureaucrat best known for helping enact a massive federal government powergrab in the 1960s, you are officially no longer a member of the liberty movement.
    To be fair, have not seen anyone from Liberty movement standing with JL.

    It appears John Lewis will not be resigning from his Congressional seat despite being caught up in a big lie.
    Yesterday an African-American leader on a partisan media outler declared John Lewis an "illegitimate Congressman".

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In essence it was fake news, for what they were suggesting... just as many many other NYT "news" stories from Iraq War Yellow Cake WMDs to bogus polls favoring SWC HIllary have been proven fake.

    [#FakeHate] 'Vote Trump' vandalism, fire at Mississippi church


    Would you rather it be called "FakeHate news" and not "fake news"?







    To be fair, have not seen anyone from Liberty movement standing with JL.

    It appears John Lewis will not be resigning from his Congressional seat despite being caught up in a big lie.
    Yesterday an African-American leader on a partisan media outler declared John Lewis an "illegitimate Congressman".
    Wrong, it was a straight news that reported what had just happened. Its wasn't even an opinion piece. So again, if you insist that it was fake, please tell us all what was fake about it. And please try to be specific.
    But “as far it being a racial issue,” he added, “I can’t say that.”
    Mississippi’s secretary of state, Delbert Hosemann, said Wednesday that he had been in contact with “authorities in Greenville” and the state Highway Patrol about the attack. Those discussions led him to believe that the burning and vandalism were not committed by “somebody of a political nature,” he said.

    “The initial work here indicates this is not of a political nature even though there may be something that says ‘Vote Trump’ on the side of the church,” said Mr. Hosemann, a Republican. “So everybody needs to calm down here until we get to the bottom of this.”
    Two quotes from the original article just so everybody can see what is considered fake news now.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Yesterday an African-American leader on a partisan media outlet declared John Lewis an "illegitimate Congressman".
    lol

    that's good. Wouldn't mind seeing the DJ DonMaster tweet that one.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    lol

    that's good. Wouldn't mind seeing the DJ DonMaster tweet that one.
    Yea the situations is getting bit out of hand.


    John Lewis an 'Illegitimate Congressman'
    foxnews
    1 day ago - Former Black Panther: John Lewis an 'Illegitimate Congressman' ... the party of the Klan and Lewis is an 'illegitimate congressman.' #Tucker.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In essence it was fake news, for what they were suggesting... just as many many other NYT "news" stories from Iraq War Yellow Cake WMDs to bogus polls favoring SWC HIllary have been proven fake.

    [#FakeHate] 'Vote Trump' vandalism, fire at Mississippi church


    Would you rather it be called "FakeHate news" and not "fake news"?







    To be fair, have not seen anyone from Liberty movement standing with JL.

    It appears John Lewis will not be resigning from his Congressional seat despite being caught up in a big lie.
    Yesterday an African-American leader on a partisan media outler declared John Lewis an "illegitimate Congressman".
    Btw, this is how the daily beast purveyor of real news decided to title their original headline of the story

    A Burned Down Black Church Shows President Trump Wouldn’t Condemn His Own Terrorists
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...errorists.html
    Plus their article had more hate crime angle to it than the NY times article. Btw, the NY times reported the bust as the daily beast so why did you selectively pick on NY times in this case? it seems like your are so biased to the point that you cannot think straight. Daily beast is horrible to the point that they outright make things up about Syria, Russia and anyone who is anti US govt and NY times on the other hand does more spin than straight up lie.

    Try to use a little skepticism even when posting items from people on your side cos they some times lie and your opponent sometimes just reports the news



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Btw, this is how the daily beast purveyor of real news decided to title their original headline of the story

    A Burned Down Black Church Shows President Trump Wouldn’t Condemn His Own Terrorists
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...errorists.html
    Plus their article had more hate crime angle to it than the NY times article. Btw, the NY times reported the bust as the daily beast so why did you selectively pick on NY times in this case? it seems like your are so biased to the point that you cannot think straight. Daily beast is horrible to the point that they outright make things up about Syria, Russia and anyone who is anti US govt and NY times on the other hand does more spin than straight up lie.

    Try to use a little skepticism even when posting items from people on your side cos they some times lie and your opponent sometimes just reports the news

    "Top tier" outlets like NYT,CNN rarely print a complete lie and their deception is often subtle and laced with misleading angles and biases.
    Outright bogus claims they leave for their lower tier cousins like BuzzFeed or dailybeast etc.

    But often, you will find same masters and financiers behind them.


    Many people have figured out that it saves time to just remove all credence even when they are telling only half lies.

  33. #58
    He would not be the success that he is today without racism. Why wouldn't he cling to it, and leverage it at every chance he had?

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    He would not be the success that he is today without racism. Why wouldn't he cling to it, and leverage it at every chance he had?
    Excellent point.
    This in part may have been the factor behind Obama also excessively playing divisive racial themes through most of his term.

    Hillary's campaign was so blatantly fakely color coded "presentation" that was rightly rejected.

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