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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Chomp View Post
    The same Libtard and a commie as Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr. His conservatism is a theater actor play for simpleton Americans
    Could well be the case. Nothing should be surprising anymore.

    Wake up, stop being drunk and face the reality !
    But then people would be faced with a positive choice. This way, they get to choose by not choosing. It's a lot easier, even if it dooms their children to fates worse than death.

    Humans.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Pray for reset.




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  3. #32
    johnson..

    efin blood thirsty piece of $#@!. No one comes close...maybe nixstein.



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  5. #33
    These artlessly weak attempts at nuking Trump really should be ignored. This is low-value trollery, IMO.

    I cannot say that Trump has done everything right, but he sure as hell has Obama beaten by an embarrassing margin. To date he has done more positive things than Obama did in 8 years. i don't care for several of his cabinet choices, but that is only my gut reaction at work. I would not be inclined to help anyone from Goldman Sachs, save perhaps to escort them into the disintegration chamber. But if I reel that $#@! in and engage reason, it becomes clear that Trump is taking the practical road, which makes the best sense, considering the circumstances in which America finds itself.

    The trouble in which we currently wade is far deeper and more dangerous than the average bear is willing to consider. Were he to, he would explode from the terror.

    We are at a precipice that drops into a black abyss, and I do not use these terms as mere instruments of petty, rancid drama. I mean them very literally and seriously. What we stand to lose is something that, once gone, the first people who will come to regret the moment their parents met will be all the progressives who today are the most strident in calling to burn it all to the ground. These people, as well as a great raft of other Americans, have no blasted clue about what life really is and how insulated they are from it. Not the least hint. Everything in their atrophied minds is the product of Hollywood bull$#@!; nothing but limp, lame, boring canned drama-vomit that has no bearing on the reality that awaits the day to pounce upon them with truths that will cause them to shrivel and die, whether in their minds or even physically.

    This all being the frightful case, there is absolutely no margin for bullshittery and screwing up. This, I suspect, Trump understands with a keenness the average man could never hope to comprehend, including some of the people here. Having myself been saddled with bottom-line responsibility for hundreds of millions of dollars of client assets, some of it taxpayer funds which brings things into a very different color scheme, I have some familiarity with the presence of such hazards and the clarity that it can bring to the mind. All bull$#@! is swept away from the minds of all but the lowest mentalities, those of profound illness or ignorance, or those seeking the chaos that the risks gone sideways promise to deliver. We are in a circumstance that promises woe beyond the belief and grasp of probably 90%+ of Americans, if or when the damn busts, so to speak. This means that we need people in positions of power who know how to get things done.

    Do I want to see people from Goldman Sachs in the cabinet? Hell no. But if those are the people who can accomplish those things which are presently needed, the failures of which stand to deliver this land into generations-long misery and poverty, then those are the people who need to assume the respective offices.

    Hordes of people lacking circumspection, some here, are bemoaning Trump's choices. They are, IMO, fools on this point. Why? Because what they do and how they do them will depend entirely upon the directives given them. At firms such as G-S, the objective is always to maximize profit, and that is what they do. Those same men, given a different set of goals, may well attain them with dispatch, aplomb, and efficiency. That is what men like them do. I know this first hand because I cut my teeth on Wall Street and have worked with them, for them, and have had many lunches at the Bull And Bear with them. Contrary to popular belief, they are not all monsters, though some are. Most are impossibly intelligent and capable men with, believe it or not, very strong ethics and morals.

    Therefore, before condemning Trump's choices off the cuff, try to understand the deep cesspool into which he has decided to go swimming as president. None of us know this man's heart. He may not even know it completely, so let us dispense with cursing him just because he is Trump or makes a decision, the deeper motivations for which you may not understand at first blush. He may turn out to be just another prick. Would not surprise me, even if very disappointing - but he hasn't proven himself yet.

    Look at Sessions. I cannot stand his priggish position on MariJewWanna, for example. My inner liberal wants to throw a brick at him. But he IS a top notch law dog with apparent passion for setting at least some things to rights. I say loose him on Clinton, Obama, and the rest of the traitorous bastards who have driven us to this sad pass. If Trump directs him to flay the people most of us agree are bad-guys, I will have no complaint with it. Let the Congress bring the drug war to its demise. Repeal of the "laws" in question would cut men like Sessions off at the knees, and to that I say "good".

    I will once again repeat what bears it: our liberty, such as ever it may have been, will be restored only in dribs and drabs, the same way in which it was taken from us. Those who expect to be living in my perfect anarchic state need to see their doctors and get a prescription for quetiapine fumarate or similar antipsychotic because you are living in a break from reality. We are in shyte up to our eyes, almost literally, and our ideals cannot be seen to from one day to the next. This is going to be a long and arduous process that, if we are lucky as a species, may get us reasonably close by the time our grandchildren are grandparents. I would count humanity as endlessly fortunate in that case. Anything more seems to me as asking far too much of Americans, all else equal.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Pray for reset.


  6. #34
    same crap, different presidency

  7. #35
    We have never been "post war"
    Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
    Thomas Jefferson

  8. #36
    I don't know where Trump will fit in. But any list that doesn't have Reagan number 1 by a wide margin and LBJ last is a pretty bad list.

    If Gorsuch gets confirmed, that would automatically put Trump ahead of Carter and Ford. I suspect gridlock will keep Trump from implementing his really terrible ideas like tariffs and I suspect Paul Ryan will find a way to scuttle an infrastructure bill on the scale that Trump is proposing. If Trump gets tax reform passed, he might move into Bill Clinton territory, which wouldn't be the worst thing. If Breyer or Ginsburg retires and Trump gets a nomination, that would be huge. Likewise if Thomas retires and Trump puts a like minded person the court or if Trump is able to replace Anthony Kennedy with someone better, he could potentially move into the number 2 spot behind Ronaldus Magnus.

  9. #37
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    Trump little bit Good in his extreme rules

    Trump little bit Good in his extreme rules against the terrorism but his extreme rules is not good for america.

  10. #38
    I believe The Pope-led Globalist caused Trump to become POTUS so that when the ship goes down
    a Nationalist, Christianish Republicanish Straight White Male would be the captain.

    Regarding DPRK, Trump has been maneuvered into a trap he cannot successfully get out of.

    The Globalist intend to end the current world order.

    The Globalist will see to it that the DPRK conflict ends in BIG, BIG violence.
    Last edited by John Prewett; 05-01-2017 at 10:56 PM.

  11. #39
    Say... ya got any pics like that for the previous 4 presidents? You know, so we can put this one into perspective...

    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Let me help you with the first one...

    Last edited by fedupinmo; 05-01-2017 at 07:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan
    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

  12. #40
    Well , so far looks like I am right , trump looking pretty avg . Nowhere near the class of Johnson .
    Do something Danke



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    He maybe become the worst prewar III president.
    true...

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by John Prewett View Post
    I believe The Pope-led Globalist caused Trump to become POTUS so that when the ship goes down
    a Nationalist, Christianish Republicanish Straight White Male would be the captain.

    Regarding DPRK, Trump has been maneuvered into a trap he cannot successfully get out of.

    The Globalist intend to end the current world order.

    The Globalist will see to it that the DPRK conflict ends in BIG, BIG violence.
    interesting
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Well , so far looks like I am right , trump looking pretty avg . Nowhere near the class of Johnson .
    There's no shortage of butter. As for guns; Mr. Mustachio is still in the White House, the Iran treaty was cancelled...

    ...he may yet reach those Olympian heights.

  17. #44
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    Any real post war President is some kind of blessing, unfortunately Trump isn't a post war President in the sense that matters. I know the op means post (World) War, but at this point the ennui over the country is more corrosive to peace than the wars we won't end.

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    E.force.eforce
    What are you saying?

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    What are you saying?
    Good question...

    I expect it was a malformed pun of some kind posted in the wrong thread.

  21. #48
    The GOAT 2020 is going to be great. My liberal mom and I recently got into it over the Mollie Tibbetts story and boi I can't wait to be so pro-trump in her face watch donald trum interview President Donald Trump



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