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T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
Bump @vonMises Could you give a ballpark guesstimate. 10 - 20%?
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“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
All right.
Breaking: Trump says he is a germaphobe
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
This story is doing a great job of herding straggling cattle that have had big problems with Trump's appointments and recent backtracking on campaign promises back into the pen.
Two hated organizations pitted "against" each other. Media vs meddling intel agencies....and who comes out looking good suddenly and a galvanizing figure for those who hate the media and/or meddling intel? The guy that is surrounding himself with bankers and billionaires.
Is this real life?
I don't know what's true and what isn't in this case but the evidence presented as of early this morning that it was a 4chan hoax was rather flimsy and short of corroborating specifics. Perhaps more specific evidence that the 4chan hoaxer was behind it has come out since (I'm catching up on the fake news for the day now) but the earlier evidence was far from convincing, even under a totality of circumstances standard.
Last edited by devil21; 01-11-2017 at 12:48 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
It seems like a lot more than 10 to 20% these days... I think I said that naming names (or screen names at least) is a thing that I should do but I do possess some level of respect for Russian trolls even if they have harmful intentions. And I may be getting ahead of myself here, as I sort of wanted to post this in that one ISIS thread when I eventually came to it, but I think amnesty should be granted to most Russian residents or U.S. nationals that are seditious in the U.S., even sparing Comey for whatever he could have done beyond punishing him for Hatch Act violations.
On the otherhand, I do wonder if there exist a libertarian/gold-bug/anarchist/prepper conspiracy to collapse the U.S. as we know it by giving Donald Trump bad advice... Not too many people have made financial positions and other positions to insulate themselves from the utter collapse of the U.S. as they have... This is not even what Trump (if he knew better), or what the Russians want for the U.S. If such a conspiracy ever does manifest itself and Trump gets wind of it before he makes disastrous decisions, I think Trump himself may want to see these people executed, and I myself being silent of whether this punishment fits their crime...
Last edited by vonMises; 01-11-2017 at 01:07 PM.
Many Russian trolls are so mean spirited that it's very hard to forgive them for the things they've done, but it's something I've already done when I first began to know about them. Once the average "conspiracy theory believing" RPFer finally gets wind to how much he's been had though, he may actually want the worse for Russian trolls but I don't.
How about this then, instead of dossiers and here say from both sides, why don't you wait for any real evidence to come out? See the thing is, a lot of this is politically motivated. People in very high political, business, and celebrity positions are going after Trump for a reason that has little to do with his immigration politics. It has to do with his position to go after criminals in the deep state, the nation, and potentially and across the globe such as the pedo ring bust in Norway. Specifically I'm talking about elitist fears from Pizzagate and Pedowood fall out. When it comes to Pizzagate, it at first glance would seem politically motivated, but the body of evidence upon brief digging from Alefantis and Podesta gives people a clearer picture of what they are likely doing.
Right now, wait for evidence, because we haven't seen anything other than an allegation with little clues to back it up.
For the Republic! For the Cause!
The Truth About Central Banking and Business Cycles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxIPPMR3fI#t=186
And I haven't said this yet, but once I got over elevated adrenaline and cortisol levels in the hour or day following the election, I very much have looked forward to a Donald Trump presidency, even it's possible pitfalls, and hope I could even have an impact on it.
Donald Trump could usher in the apocalypse but the way in which I regulate my mind makes me not mind things as much.
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
The whole thing is pretty short on specifics and evidence and any time intel agencies are front and center as part of a narrative, TAKE A STEP BACK! Don't get invested in the story! Waiting for the "facts" is sort of....mmm....like waiting for the fox to feed you, the hen. I just looked at the alleged twitter account of the alleged 4chan originator. Guess what I saw? Supporting comments of Dylan Roof with racist language, tweets about Rand, a tribute to Tim McVeigh. I stopped looking at that point. Stinks. The intel agencies are the shadow government (CFR et al), also are the controllers of the media, the action arm of the bankers and they are not fans of smart libertarians. I smell a set up. ymmv
(our good buddy and old friend John McCain is also a key figure in the narrative as a passer of the "intel")
Last edited by devil21; 01-11-2017 at 01:56 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I can actually trust Zippy and CPUd's judgement on things...
I've come across libertarians long enough to find that a few are psychopaths that have a complete inability to relate to people or care what really happens to people. Even if Trump is a pervert, lies about things, or whatever, I think the man is still capable of having good intentions toward the average American, but such is not true for some libertarians...
It's fun to watch the MSM implode. I just can't believe it's a goober like Trump that pushed it along. lol.
Our current debt is not much of a problem as long as other countries maintain confidence in the U.S. as a country. They are willing to support whatever economic/military/political system or order the U.S. has in place as long as they could be defended. The idea of NATO/EU/Euro being American phenomenons. So for example, once the U.S. reneges on the defense of any NATO country, almost all NATO countries will stop deferring and supporting the U.S., thus collapsing the system we have in place almost immediately and subsequently impacting the livelihoods of every American, especially those who rely on the government (it will mean that those on Medicare, for example, die in the millions if we suddenly can't pay for their care). Donald Trump will be given a number of situations as it concerns NATO/EU and if he does something that violates prior NATO/EU commitments (like letting a NATO country get invaded and doing nothing or doing nothing to have prevented it) that means the end of the U.S. as a superpower and the collapse of the U.S. economy.
How the CIA was PRANKED by 4€han
Did 4Chan Troll The CIA?
So the debt, or whatever other thing, only exist as liabilities in comparison to an ultimate inability to use nukes to defend the order we created.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Other countries have horrible GDP to debt ratios, and this will hurt them, but U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world... But if the world lives in a system in which no one has much confidence in the U.S. any longer, it makes a lot of more sense to start getting rid of things.
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