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    Default Ft. Lauderdale Shooting Upgraded to 'Terrorist Attack'

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    Five Victims Reported After Shooting At Ft. Lauderdale Airport


    STOCK MONSTER ELECT ‏@Darren32895836 36 min.
    BREAKING : 2nd active shooter at Fort Lauderdale Airport! @foxNews details! MORE SHOTS FIRED!

    Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 34 minHá 34 minutos
    TERROR ATTACK AT FT LAUDERDALE AIRPORT: The Broward Sheriff Office just upgraded incident to a "terrorist attack"

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    Second Shooter Reported At Ft. Lauderdale Airport After Earlier Killing Of Five People

    Fox News &#8207 @foxNews 3 minHá 3 minutos
    .@ShepNewsTeam: Shooter was passenger on Canadian flight. Checked gun, claimed bag. Went into bathroom where he loaded gun. #FortLauderdale

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    Ft. Lauderdale Airport Shooting: Gunman Kills 5, Injures 8; Second Shooter Reported

    Update 4: The incident has been upgraded to a terrorist attack according to the Broward Sheriff's office

    Update 5: False alarm: during a briefing with the press, the Local Sheriff's department in Florida said it appears the gunman at Fort Lauderdale Airport was acting alone.

    Additionally, as Fox News reports shooter Esteban Santiago
    was passenger on Canadian flight
    who had checked a gun in his bag.
    He claimed a bag, then went into bathroom
    where he loaded his gun and started shooting.

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    Last edited by goldenequity; 01-06-2017 at 05:14 PM.



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    Malls are good.
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    Any more details.. was this connected to Syria war or Afghan/Iraq wars?

    Boston Marathon attack connection to drone wars and Orlando Pulse club attack's connection to on going wars was kept hidden for quite a while by Obama handlers or media.

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    Expect speedy forthcoming legislation making it illegal to carry firearms on a plane even as baggage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Expect speedy forthcoming legislation making it illegal to carry firearms on a plane even as baggage.
    Yep.

    Now they will move TSA outside of the airports now.
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7513976.html

    The suspect showed up at the FBI office in Anchorage a few months ago, law enforcement officials told CNN. He was interviewed and said he was hearing voices, including some telling him to join Isis. He then voluntarily checked himself in to hospital for a mental health evaluation
    (wasn't the FBI telling him to join ISIS)
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    hahahahaaahhhhaa... here we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Air Canada Verified account ‏@AirCanada

    We confirm we have no record of a passenger by the name Esteban Santiago, or checked guns, on any of our flights to Fort Lauderdale #FLL 5/5
    https://twitter.com/AirCanada/status/817484691783684097


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    guess it is NOW reported he was checked in w/ Delta...
    this has been lousy reportage from the gitgo...
    srry I evr posted this thread. blech.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 01-06-2017 at 10:39 PM.

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    Do we know how much time he spent fighting for our freedoms in Iraq?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7513976.html

    (wasn't the FBI telling him to join ISIS)
    Early reporting can by foggy, it gets even more foggy if some key parts of report are left out:

    Ft. Lauderdale shooting suspect made confused visit to FBI, said US intelligence forced him to watch ISIS videos

    Published January 06, 2017

    The visit took place last November. The sources said Santiago told agents that US intelligence had infiltrated his mind and were forcing him to watch ISIS propaganda videos.
    "In November 2016, Esteban Santiago walked into the Anchorage FBI Field Office to report that his mind was being controlled by a U.S. intelligence agency,” a senior federal law enforcement official said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/06...nal-guard.html





    Un-related

    No need to panic ; Former CIA deputy station chief discusses ISIS with Iraqi Sunni leaders

    ISIS = RM 2.0

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    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsat_98 View Post
    So the same person was interviewed twice once while wearing a hat and back pack, the other time not, and somehow this is a crisis actor playing two roles?

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    Better Liberty with the challenge
    And dangers of the untried, unknown,
    Than Servitude's deadly certainty
    Of economic security.

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    Better Liberty with the challenge
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    I got as far as the first portion, where he says that no one dresses like that at the airport, and that he doesn't believe you can have a dog like that walking around at the airport, then when he started pointing out the people with cameras as strange. He keeps going on about how it's all a hoax because... of a bunch of things that don't point to it being a hoax. Hell, he keeps talking about the shooting happening at a terminal, but it was at baggage claim (you know, an area entirely different from the one where his hoaxy video takes place). He talks about, for instance, the man being outside while others are still running. I wouldn't run any further, either, considering there's a whole floor between you and the shooter, and a bunch of distance between you and the doors as well. And yes, you're allowed to "walk around with a dog," and I'm not sure why this blows his mind so much. "It's a joke. They're just running by, not worried about their luggage." What? One of the people HAS his luggage as he's running by there. The lady in the vest is "directing" people to the exits, probably pulled off curbside or some other boring duty to do so.

    Of course, there's video of the guy taking the gun out and shooting, but we're focused on the wrong part of the airport, the wrong floor, and the "suspicious" weirdo at the airport with a dog.

    Good job, internet. You solved this one.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    It seems downgraded to "hateful act" later on:

    'A hateful act': What we know about the Ft. Lauderdale airport shooting
    The Coloradoan-Jan 7, 2017


    NBC news expert Pete Williams has multiple times reported that it was "not terrorism".

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    Friday mass shooting comes one week before Florida legislators planned to debate a new bill allowing the carrying of firearms in airports.

    The Tallahassee Democrat reported Tuesday that Republican State Senator Greg Steube had introduced SB 140 to the state senate Judiciary Committee, to be considered sometime next week. The bill would repeal existing gun bans on college campuses, in airport terminals, and in government meetings.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 01-09-2017 at 12:07 AM.
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    funny how always seems to happen that way ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse_Rider View Post
    funny how always seems to happen that way ^
    Coincidence theorist.
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    And dangers of the untried, unknown,
    Than Servitude's deadly certainty
    Of economic security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Coincidence theorist.
    you bet !

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    From Drudge;

    Airport Shooter Converted to Islam, Identified as Aashiq Hammad Years Before Joining Army


    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...-joining-army/

    The Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooter is a Muslim convert who years before joining the U.S. Army took on an Islamic name (Aashiq Hammad), downloaded terrorist propaganda and recorded Islamic religious music online, according to public records dug up by the investigative news site of an award-winning, California journalist. This is pertinent information that the Obama administration apparently wants to keep quiet, bringing up memories of the Benghazi cover up, in which the president and his cohorts knowingly lied to conceal that Islamic terrorists attacked the U.S. Special Mission in Libya.

    Information is slowly trickling out that links the Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooter to radical Islam while the official story from authorities is that the gunman is a mentally ill, Hispanic Army veteran named Esteban Santiago that became unhinged after a tour in Iraq. Only one mainstream media outlet mentions the possibility of Santiago’s “jihadist identity,” burying it in a piece about New York possibly being his initial target. A paragraph deep in the story mentions that investigators recovered Santiago’s computer from a pawn shop and the FBI is examining it to determine whether he created a “jihadist identity for himself using the name Aashiq Hammad…” The rest of the traditional mainstream media coverage promotes the government rhetoric that omits any ties to terrorism even though early on a photo surfaced of Santiago making an ISIS salute while wearing a keffiyeh, a Palestinian Arab scarf.

    The public records uncovered in the days after the massacre suggest Santiago (Hammad) is a radical Islamic terrorist that’s seriously committed to Islam. Besides taking on a Muslim name, he recorded three Islamic religious songs, including the Muslim declaration faith (“there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger”) known as the Shahada. He also posted a thread about downloading propaganda videos from Islamic terrorists on a weapons and explosives forum. The investigative news site that unearthed this disturbing information connected the dots between Santiago, who is of Puerto Rican descent, and Hammad, an identity he created in 2007.

    This week a prominent Ft. Lauderdale businessman and longtime resident addressed a letter to the city’s mayor and commissioners blasting county and federal officials for covering up that “Aashiq Hammad, not Esteban Santiago, attacked our city and county.” The businessman, respected Ft. Lauderdale real estate entrepreneur Jim Morlock, specifically names Broward County’s elected sheriff Scott Israel, Florida senator Bill Nelson, the first to identify Santiago as the shooter on national television, and congressman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, ousted last summer as Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair over a scandalous plot to damage Bernie Sanders during the primary.

    “Since when does a US Senator (Bill Nelson), not law enforcement, be the one to so quickly release this terrorist’s Hispanic name but nothing about his more relevant Islamic background?” the letter asks. Obama must have told Sen. Nelson to keep this from looking like a Muslim Terrorist attack during the last 12 days of his watch. Bad for his legacy.” Morlock goes on to state that it’s “better to portray this atrocity as white Hispanic Alaskan mental Iraq war vet gun violence.” The real estate entrepreneur proceeds to reveal that Santiago lives in walking distance to the only mosque in Alaska, was radicalized before he entered the military and was knowingly allowed to serve despite his Islamic sympathies thanks to “Obama’s PC military.”

    The letter poses interesting questions, including why this Muslim terrorist chose Ft. Lauderdale out of all the nation’s airports and who Santiago knows in Broward county, which has a large and growing Islamic community. In 2015 Judicial Watch obtained records from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that show and Al Qaeda terrorist who helped plan several U.S. attacks lived in Broward County and graduated from the local community college with a degree in computer engineering. His name is Adnan G. El Shukrijumah, but he also had a Hispanic identity, Javier Robles, and for years he appeared on the FBI’s most wanted list. Back in 2012 Judicial Watch reported on a terrorist front group’s demands that Broward County public schools close twice a year to celebrate Islamic holy days, illustrating the influence that Muslims have in the region.

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    Staffing cuts left area of Fort Lauderdale airport shooting unguarded

    Updated 6:29 a.m. ET Jan. 23, 2017

    Years before gunman Esteban Santiago killed five people and wounded six others at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, the local agency that runs the airport had taken the rare step of cutting law enforcement positions at the bustling facility.
    Even as police calls were rising at the airport, Broward County slashed more than two dozen jobs and ordered many of the deputies to move from the terminals to direct traffic along the curbs rather than guard the public areas inside, records and interviews show.
    By the time Santiago stepped off his Delta Airlines flight Jan. 6, retrieved his 9 mm Walther handgun from his bag and opened fire on travelers, there were no armed deputies in the lower level of the terminal during the worst airport attack in U.S. history.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...rded/96886712/






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