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    Rand Paul: Repeal all of Obamacare and replace immediately

    By Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)

    Congress will, as its first course of action, vote to repeal Obamacare. It cannot happen soon enough.

    All around us, Obamacare crumbles in chaos. Premiums are exploding. The state run health co-ops are mostly bankrupt. Many individuals who gained subsidized insurance are still, for all practical purposes, without insurance because the deductibles are beyond the reach of low income workers.

    As we repeal Obamacare, we would be wise to vote on its replacement at the same time.


    What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

    1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

    2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

    3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

    4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.

    If Congress fails to vote on a replacement at the same time as repeal, the repealers risk assuming the blame for the continued unraveling of Obamacare. For mark my words, Obamacare will continue to unravel and wreak havoc for years to come.

    The stick of Obamacare was forcing people to buy insurance or pay a penalty. The carrot of Obamacare was allowing people with pre-existing conditions to buy insurance after they were diagnosed. Even with the mandate, many healthy young people refused to buy insurance and the pools of insured Americans under Obamacare are overly burdened by sick individuals and insurance companies are suffering losses.

    Removing the mandate to buy insurance while leaving in place the dictate that people can wait to buy insurance until after they are ill will only accentuate the bankrupting of the insurance industry.

    My fear is that if you leave part of Obamacare in place (the dictate that insurance companies must sell insurance to individuals with pre-existing conditions) then you will see an acceleration of adverse selection and ultimately mass bankruptcy of the healthcare insurance industry.

    Don’t misunderstand me. We should repeal Obamacare, but partial repeal will only accelerate the current chaos and may eventually lead to calls for a taxpayer bailout of insurance companies.

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    What should we replace Obamacare with? Perhaps we should try freedom:

    1. The freedom to choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates.

    2. The freedom to save unlimited amounts in a health savings account.

    3. The freedom to buy insurance across state lines.

    4. The freedom for all individuals to join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool.
    I was about come in here to say NO you replace it with nothing.

    But replacing it with freedom works better.

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    I have never purchased health insurance. I have often had people say to me what if you are in an accident? I tell them I do have coverage on my auto insurance (which I have never used either)

    I don't go to doctors. If I am sick I make myself well. I am sure if I made regular visits to a doctor they could find some reason to medicate me. I don't want to be medicated even for the pain I am in. The only reason I will volunteer to go to a doctor is if medical marijuana becomes legal in my state. I know the cronic pain I have would likely qualify me for a prescription. I will pay cash for that visit. I don't need some hussler trying to sell me a flu shot or a blood test.

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    Good job Rand . Replace it with freedom
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Good job Rand . Replace it with freedom
    To replace it with freedom, every bit of legislation regarding healthcare (doctors, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, insurance companies, etc.) would need to be removed. All of it. Including Medicare.

    Then let's see what would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    To replace it with freedom, every bit of legislation regarding healthcare (doctors, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, insurance companies, etc.) would need to be removed. All of it. Including Medicare.

    Then let's see what would happen.
    And State mandated coverage. As a male I don't see the need for hair transplant coverage. N.C. mandates it as part of coverage. I made a thread here a number of years ago that listed all the bull$#@! N.C. requires and the reason insurance in N.C. was so expensive.

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    God.

    1. Price transparency
    2. Drug importation

    Neither mentioned, both are the keys behind why the US over pays by 5x.

    US health cares practices are already illegal, just prosecute the $#@!ers.

    Basic free market things.

    I can get binding quotes from multiple hospitals here. So private care costs 80% less than in the states. That makes nearly everything cheap enough to pay cash.
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