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    Default Cologne Police under fire for detaining "Hundreds of Nafris" asking "papers please"





    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-men-new-year/

    The tweet showed a photo of dozens of men penned in behind barriers in front of the station.

    Around 300 men of north African appearance were also taken off a train in another central station and had their identity papers checked.
    Juergen Mathis, Cologne police chief, rejected accusations that his officers had conducted "racial profiling", arguing that many of the men detained had acted in an "aggressive" manner.
    "I reject such criticism," he told a press conference. "The clear aim was to prevent similar events to those of last year."
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    Asylum seekers scam German aid program for millions by applying with ‘up to 12’ fake IDs



    The estimated total loss of taxpayer money in the state of Lower Saxony alone
    has been put at three to five million euros ($3.2-5.3 million).

    In the majority of cases, the scheme was employed by Sudanese refugees
    who were applying for benefits within the social welfare system.

    The scammers allegedly took advantage of the extreme workload the civil servants were under
    who were registering the applications.

    The welfare claimants would simply change their appearance
    to receive additional documents from unsuspecting social service workers.
    The not so sophisticated con met few road bumps,
    as the refugees did not have to give their fingerprints
    and, since they had no documents,
    were identified only from photographs.

    hahaha... so much for Big Bro
    'facial recognition' / bio metrics / iris scanning ??

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    Is there a problem with what they did in Cologne?
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Is there a problem with what they did in Cologne?
    Several ways to answer that question..
    so I'll choose
    this one:


    Yes.
    There's a problem
    with what 'they' (local authorities)
    did.

    It (what they did)
    is 'feeding' the growth of activist Nationalism (Sovereign States)
    which
    is warring against the passivity of Globalism. (EU)

    Brussels PTB no like... neither does NATO PTB.

    They are scrambling to (try to) grab (back) control
    of a cart that is coming completely off the rails.
    (It's their own interventionist fault really. Another story.)

    Their panic and desperation is now showing up in propaganda stunts like this.

    Slovak PM urges end to referendums (Now: Democracy = Dangerous. Elites have never like mobs since Marie Antoinette. hahaha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Is there a problem with what they did in Cologne?
    I don't have a problem with how other nations treat potential immigrants.

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    Why would they let them in ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Why would they let them in ?
    Honest answer?
    Even though 'they' created it (with interventionism/globalism)
    It's their best attempt at 'triage'.
    Because the global economy is contracting and collapsing.
    Like the Titanic sinking... it wasn't 'quick'.. more of a 'process' than an 'event'..
    and it became INCREASINGLY disorganized
    as the 'panic' set in.

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    My how Lower Saxony has fallen .

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    Germany: More asylum requests in the first nine months of 2016 than the rest of the EU combined.



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    HUMAN TRAFFICKING: NGOs = SMUGGLING

    NGOs are smuggling immigrants into Europe on an industrial scale


    For two months, using marinetraffic.com,
    we have monitored movements of ships owned by NGOs,
    and we have kept track of the arrivals of African immigrants.




    MOAS: The Refugee Smuggling Fleet in MEd

    In short all of this started by MOAS, which is:
    a CIA officer, Pentagon afghan contractor (moved to Malta)
    + former Malta`s Head of the Army
    + former Malta internment officer,
    together launched the "humanitarian effort".
    For more information:

    NGOs Armada operating off the coast of Libya
    https://gefira.org/en/2016/11/16/ngo...oast-of-libya/

    The Americans from MOAS ferry migrants to Europe
    https://gefira.org/en/2016/11/16/moa...o-pick-you-up/

    Caught in the act: NGOs deal in migrant smuggling
    https://gefira.org/en/2016/11/15/cau...ant-smuggling/

    Death road to Europe promoted on the web
    https://gefira.org/en/2016/11/15/dea...ed-on-the-web/
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    There's a problem
    with what 'they' (local authorities)
    did.
    My point is, has been, and will continue to be... no, there's no problem with what they did, because if they weren't doing that, they wouldn't be who they are.
    They get paid to do this.
    It's what they were hired for.

    What you see here is a fundamental feature of the job.
    If we come to the conclusion that this isn't something they should be doing, then we need to review and rewrite the job description.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    My point is, has been, and will continue to be... no, there's no problem with what they did, because if they weren't doing that, they wouldn't be who they are.
    They get paid to do this.
    It's what they were hired for.

    What you see here is a fundamental feature of the job.
    If we come to the conclusion that this isn't something they should be doing, then we need to review and rewrite the job description.
    They racially profiled the 'detainees'
    for the approaching 'MIDNITE' New Years Eve celebration by:
    time, location, gender, age and skin color.
    It was a strategy designed to protect the female celebrants
    based on last year's outrageous incidents of sexual predation.
    Kudos to Cologne.

    I just wanted to skip the 'social' Q&A for the larger issues
    because I see no 'non-violent' solutions... only 'less-violent' ones.

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    Thousands of refugees are suing Germany



    In the state of North Rhine-Westphalia alone,
    there were roughly 47,300 asylum cases in 2016, up from 21,300 the year before.
    That means the numbers more than doubled
    and there's no end in sight for the upcoming year.


    (Once they boat in or walk in... , they have to register to access welfare, but then have to sue through the STATE courts, in order to bus in / boat in their families. )

    "The wait is grueling," he said.
    "And it's not just two years.
    After that waiting period, the family members abroad
    need to apply to come to Germany.
    And even getting an appointment for that in a German embassy
    in one of Syria's neighboring countries takes forever."

    The growing number of lawsuits is also a problem for the administrative courts.

    "In some states, the situation is dramatic," Judge Association director Seegmüller said.

    He believes that the courts don't have enough personnel
    to deal with the exponential work increase.
    But while the German government passed the subsidiary protection regulation
    that's partly responsible for the wave of lawsuits,
    it is not responsible for employing more judges.
    That's on the 16 states' governments.
    The Pro Asyl deputy director is angry about that.

    "The German government got us into this situation,"
    Mesovic said. "But it's the states that have to pay for it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Thousands of refugees are suing Germany

    In the state of North Rhine-Westphalia alone,
    there were roughly 47,300 asylum cases in 2016, up from 21,300 the year before.
    That means the numbers more than doubled
    and there's no end in sight for the upcoming year.


    (Once they boat in or walk in... , they have to register to access welfare, but then have to sue through the STATE courts, in order to bus in / boat in their families. )
    I admit that I do not understand this dimension of the problem at all. If I were a refugee fleeing a war, I would not sue my host because I wanted them to take on relatives. WTF over? Once everyone is no longer in danger of....you know...dying, then you can set up reunions. Instead these people are going to sue the country that is (allegedly) trying to save their lives? Fk that, if they can't be satisfied with the levels of refugee support being provided I say ship their asses back to the combat zone and let them deal with their own survival.

    The most annoying thing about all of this, IMHO, are the the refugees who receive all this aid, and then turn around and spit right in the faces of the people helping them. Fk that. Drop the ungrateful bastards right into the middle of a freakin firefight and call it a night. Buh bye.






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