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    Trump says "drain the swamp" was cute but no longer needed

    Through Newt, the ultimate swamp dweller. Pledges to stick to the principle though :snort:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rain-the-swamp

    Washington (AP) -- One of Donald Trump's advisers says the president-elect is no longer interested in his rallying cry "drain the swamp."

    "I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in an interview that aired Wednesday on NPR. Gingrich, a vice chairman of the transition team, also predicted there would be "constant fighting" over Trump's efforts to reduce the influence of lobbyists and Washington insiders.

    Trump's aides say he remains committed to his underlying swamp-draining policies, such as banning outgoing Trump transition and administration members from lobbying for five years. Trump also prohibits any lobbyists from joining his transition team or administration unless they de-register.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



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    Gingrich: Trump backing away from 'drain the swamp'


    Gingrich: Trump backing away from 'drain the swamp'



    President-elect Donald Trump campaigned on a promise to “drain the swamp” in Washington of corruption, but now that he’s preparing to move into the White House, Newt Gingrich said the Manhattan real estate mogul is looking to distance himself from that message.

    “I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore,” the former House Speaker and close Trump adviser said of the “drain the swamp” message in an NPR interview published Wednesday morning. “I've noticed on a couple of fronts, like people chanting ‘Lock her up,’ that he's in a different role now and maybe he feels that as president, as the next president of the United States, that he should be marginally more dignified than talking about alligators in swamps.”

    While Trump made his “drain the swamp” pledge a major part of his campaign message in the final weeks of the presidential race, his transition team was, in its early days after the election, packed with lobbyists for the pharmaceutical, chemical, fossil fuel and tobacco industries. Under pressure, Trump’s team instituted a rigid lobbying ban that prompted some to leave, but the group orchestrating the president-elect’s transition still relies heavily on GOP insiders.

    Trump’s Cabinet and other high-level appointments seem to have deviated somewhat from his “drain the swamp” message. After attacking Democrat Hillary Clinton regularly throughout the campaign for being too close to Wall Street banks, Trump has put three former Goldman Sachs executives in prominent White House positions, including Steven Mnuchin as treasury secretary, Steve Bannon as chief White House strategist and Gary Cohn as the director of the National Economic Council.

    Gingrich also suggested that Trump should quickly find a transparent solution to concerns about conflicts of interest between his presidency and the massive business empire he has pledged to hand over to his kids once he takes office. The former House speaker said putting such complex assets into a blind trust, the arrangement generally promised by presidents, would be “an absurdity” for Trump but that some other "common-sense" arrangement will be necessary.

    “This is not a country that wanders around trusting people with power. This is a country that wants accountability,” Gingrich said. "He has to understand and his family has to understand that there is a public interest which transcends them.”

    As a solution, Gingrich suggested that Trump appoint a panel of experts that would have “total access” to oversee his assets and advise him as to what is appropriate and what is not. That panel could be populated by individuals like former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Gingrich said.

    “A large part of his holdings are Trump golf clubs, Trump hotels,” the former speaker said. “I mean, we have never quite had anyone of this scale to occupy the White House and it's going to require us to think about, how do you deal with this in a way that's effective and that serves the interest of the country, but also meets some kind of practical common-sense test?”
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...e-swamp-232878
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



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    Heard the interview on NPR this morning. He 'backed away" from Drain the Swamp when he shoe-horned Goldman's elite into his cabinet... specifically Cohn.

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    Last edited by timosman; 12-21-2016 at 01:00 PM.

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    https://twitter.com/CLewandowski_/st...10862926659584
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    ^^^^^That video is insane. The CEO of ExxonMobil is an outsider, according to AJ. lol

    I sure hope no one listens to that dude anymore.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I'll get on my knees and pray
    We don't get fooled again
    Don't get fooled again........

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss"
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    ^^^^^That video is insane. The CEO of ExxonMobil is an outsider, according to AJ. lol

    I sure hope no one listens to that dude anymore.
    Not to mention, was brought in on the advice of fellow shareholders Condi Rice and Dick Cheney.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    ^^^^^That video is insane. The CEO of ExxonMobil is an outsider, according to AJ. lol

    I sure hope no one listens to that dude anymore.
    Why is AJ whoring himself so cheaply?

    Hey Alex, here is the deal. We buy you a nice studio. Whatever you make selling these herbal supplements is yours. Do we have a deal?
    Last edited by timosman; 12-21-2016 at 01:30 PM.

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    The pigs start to resemble humans, as they walk upright, carry whips, and wear clothes. The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others". Napoleon holds a dinner party for the pigs and local farmers, with whom he celebrates a new alliance. He abolishes the practice of the revolutionary traditions and restores the name "The Manor Farm".
    ..

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    When was the last time Trump used the phrase?
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    Washington (AP) -- One of Donald Trump's advisers says the president-elect is no longer interested in his rallying cry "drain the swamp."

    "I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in an interview that aired Wednesday on NPR. Gingrich, a vice chairman of the transition team, also predicted there would be "constant fighting" over Trump's efforts to reduce the influence of lobbyists and Washington insiders.

    Trump's aides say he remains committed to his underlying swamp-draining policies, such as banning outgoing Trump transition and administration members from lobbying for five years. Trump also prohibits any lobbyists from joining his transition team or administration unless they de-register.
    So basically, he doesn't want to use the slogan any longer, but still wants to do the actions.

    Did any of you actually read the article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    So basically, he doesn't want to use the slogan any longer, but still wants to do the actions.
    Did any of you actually read the article?
    yup.
    Trump's aides say he remains committed to his underlying swamp-draining policies,
    such as banning outgoing Trump transition and administration members
    from lobbying for five years.

    Trump also prohibits any lobbyists from joining his transition team or administration
    unless they de-register.

    Gingrich told NPR that as the incoming president, perhaps Trump
    feels that "he should be marginally more dignified" than leading crowds
    in "lock her up" and "drain the swamp" chants.

    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-21-2016 at 03:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    When was the last time Trump used the phrase?
    Trump probably said it once in passing, then the media repeated it 80 million times.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kade View Post
    Heard the interview on NPR this morning. He 'backed away" from Drain the Swamp when he shoe-horned Goldman's elite into his cabinet... specifically Cohn.
    lol.. NPR.. I listen to that sometimes, a lot of propaganda on there.

    How much do you hate Donald Trump on a scale of 1-10? I'll bet it's a lot, I mean you were lied to about Donald Trump on a daily basis for a year and a half, you must hate him a lot.

    I didn't vote for the dude, I have a few issues with him but wow did the media completely get it wrong on almost every issue related to Trump.. I hope you didn't buy all that crap.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump probably said it once in passing
    I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you have really become a complete Trumpkin.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you have really become a complete Trumpkin.
    I'd rather be a Trumpkin than some retard repeating mainstream media bull$#@! on a daily basis.

    It turns out that when you assume 98% of what the media says is a complete lie, you end up being pretty well informed of what isn't true.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Trump probably said it once in passing, then the media repeated it 80 million times.
    He's said it a few times and not in passing. It was his main focus in his Colorado speech in Oct and he has had it on his website:

    Trump Pledges To Drain The Swamp And Impose Congressional Term Limits

    There is another major announcement I am going to make today as part of our pledge to drain the swamp in Washington. If I am elected President, I will push for a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

    Decades of failure in Washington, and decades of special interest dealing, must come to an end. We have to break the cycle of corruption, and we have to give new voices a chance to go into government service. The time for Congressional term limits has arrived.

    ...

    If we let the Clinton Cartel run this government, history will record that 2017 was the year America lost its independence.

    We will not let that happen.

    It is time to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C.

    That is why I am proposing a package of ethics reforms to make our government honest once again.

    First: I am going to institute a 5-year ban on all executive branch officials lobbying the government after they leave government service.

    Second: I am going to ask Congress to institute its own 5-year ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffs.

    Third: I am going to expand the definition of lobbyist so we close all the loopholes that former government officials use by labeling themselves consultants and advisors when we all know they are lobbyists.

    Fourth: I am going to issue a lifetime ban against senior executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

    Fifth: I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...rain-the-swamp
    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Donald Trump on Tuesday pushed a package of ethics reforms he said would "drain the swamp" of Washington, D.C., including strict limitations on lobbying and a constitutional amendment imposing term limits on Congress.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ions/92377656/
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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'd rather be a Trumpkin than some retard repeating mainstream media bull$#@! on a daily basis.

    It turns out that when you assume 98% of what the media says is a complete lie, you end up being pretty well informed of what isn't true.
    You don't have to rely on the mainstream media. There's plenty of video of Trump starting chants of drain the swamp at various rallies, as well as generally using the phrase. And of course his website.

    Intentionally burying your head in the sand won't stop things from being true.
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Lol triggering. Triggering all over.

    All the moves he took so far look to me like he is draining the swamp. Put in our people in top positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I'd rather be a Trumpkin than some retard repeating mainstream media bull$#@! on a daily basis.

    It turns out that when you assume 98% of what the media says is a complete lie, you end up being pretty well informed of what isn't true.
    I, for one do not need ANY "media" (be it establishment or "fake news") to tell me Trump will be the same-ol-same-ol. I have Thousands of years of history to back me up as well as my own personal experience and observations over some 60 plus years. I chuckle when I hear the Trump supporters tinkle their pants dreaming of all the great things he's going to do. We will revisit this in a year or two and see what changes he's initiated...
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    because New Gingrich said so? HAHAHA!!!!

    the fakest of fake news

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    Let's give the guy a chance and wait until he actually takes office. There's a couple things I'm watching for. In March we hit the debt ceiling. Let's see what happens there. We could have a balanced budget, all they have to do is enforce the debt ceiling. Second, when the economy starts its epic crash, due to record amounts of stimulus, what does Trump do? Will he double down on more stimulus? Or let the depression run its course, allow banks to fail, partially default on the debt, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Let's give the guy a chance and wait until he actually takes office.
    nah.... that's no fun.

    Let's sit around and throw stones, call him names, guarantee he's only going to do bad things

    hell, let's cuss him up one side and down the other before he even gets sworn in!!! HELLZ YEAH!!!!!!!

    GOLDMANN SACHS!! GOLDMANN SACHS!!! GOLDMANN SACHS!!!!

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