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    Russian election hack briefing demanded by Michigan congressman

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- A Michigan congressman is one of two asking President Barack Obama for an immediate briefing on claims that Russia interfered with November's presidential election.

    U.S. Reps. Justin Amash, R-Cascade Township, and Walter Jones, a North Carolina Republican, sent a letter to The White House on Monday, Dec. 19.

    In the letter, the congressmen question the veracity of reports from the intelligence community that Russian cyberattacks were part of an effort to influence the 2016 election, calling them "evidence-free assertions."

    "The reports do not detail specific evidence to support these assertions, and some reports suggest there are disagreements among intelligence officials," the letter states.
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    The White House has suggested President Vladimir Putin was personally involved and President Barack Obama has promised to retaliate.
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    The letter from Amash and Jones claims congressional leaders previously requested a briefing on the issue, but were denied and told by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that a review requested by the White House must first be completed.

    "Less than two days later, with no congressional briefing scheduled, you took to NPR to announce retaliatory action against Russia for 'impacting the integrity of our elections,'" the letter states.
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    Amash and Jones criticize the president's statement, saying Congress "must be briefed on any evidence the intelligence community has gathered" so members can weigh the evidence and evaluate any conclusions.

    "It is incumbent upon the executive branch to keep Congress apprised of hostile foreign actions in a timely manner, and once an allegation has been made public, it is reckless to allow evidence-free assertions to serve as Congress' and the public's only source of information," the letter states.

    With retaliation against Russia "apparently already under development," the two congressmen request a classified briefing be immediately made available to Congress.
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    More: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...d_briefin.html
    Update - Briefing scheduled for Friday:


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    The impression I got from listening to Obama was the evidence was clear and nothing happens in Russia without Putin's authority. He told people to decide for themselves. Hmm. So the congress doesn't even have any clear evidence but the American people are supposed to decide for themselves.

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    Go get 'em! Do Amash and Jones team up on a number of issues? Seems I've noticed their names mentioned together often.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    I think I read it best from someone who asked the question as to why the CIA went to the press first prior to Congress. Good job Amash and Jones.

    Makes me proud to live in Michigan (although I am in the district just West of him, and my rep is a Neocon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    retaliation against Russia "apparently already under development,"
    Hilly opened the back door kinda wide open, didn't she?

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    Walter Jones is truly one of the top congressmen in office. He deserves the support of all liberty enthusiasts.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Walter Jones is truly one of the top congressmen in office. He deserves the support of all liberty enthusiasts.
    Well, he has become a reformed individual. He voted for both the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He even wasted time trying to change French Fries to "Freedom Fries" on the House menu.
    But, but, but....
    Every man deserves a chance at redemption and, while I'm not happy with everything about him, I am happy with the direction he turned.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    . . . even wasted time trying to change French Fries to "Freedom Fries" on the House menu.
    lol, what a legacy from our elected officials

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    lol, what a legacy from our elected officials
    Why the hell is there a House menu? These guys don't make enough to order out?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Why the hell is there a House menu? These guys don't make enough to order out?
    Dennis Kasinich-spacecadet Congressman -sued the House cafeteria over breaking a tooth on an olive pit. . .he won a six-figure settlement even.
    Expensive dentists in DC ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Dennis Kasinich-spacecadet Congressman -sued the House cafeteria over breaking a tooth on an olive pit. . .he won a six-figure settlement even.
    Expensive dentists in DC ?
    Did he win? Just a quick Google didn't show a result. Yup, he is a space cadet. But, he didn't hate on Ron Paul when everyone else was, so...there's that.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Did he win? Just a quick Google didn't show a result. Yup, he is a space cadet. But, he didn't hate on Ron Paul when everyone else was, so...there's that.
    He may not have hated on RP . . . but pity the cafeteria workers in the House dining room.
    He settled out of court for about $100,000 and change/legal fees as i recall maybe 10 years ago (?)
    and before Al Gore invented the internet ? I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    He may not have hated on RP . . . but pity the cafeteria workers in the House dining room.
    He settled out of court for about $100,000 and change/legal fees as i recall maybe 10 years ago (?)
    and before Al Gore invented the internet ? I dunno.
    Well, regardless, he was a dick to even bring the suit knowing who had to pay for it.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Why the hell is there a House menu? These guys don't make enough to order out?
    We better give them a raise. We can't have starving overlords, er, representatives in this great land.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    We better give them a raise. We can't have starving overlords, er, representatives in this great land.
    Get rid of the kitchen. Get rid of the staff. Every representative has staffer, who is doing nothing more than running errands for resume recognition, so how about just another errand? Go to a local establishment and get me bagel w/ cream cheese. Get me a pizza. Get me a hot dog. Problem solved.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Get rid of the kitchen. Get rid of the staff. Every representative has staffer, who is doing nothing more than running errands for resume recognition, so how about just another errand? Go to a local establishment and get me bagel w/ cream cheese. Get me a pizza. Get me a hot dog. Problem solved.
    Or better yet pick me up some of that kobe beef.
    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Yeah, I like cops. They keep the streets safe. Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The Fed is NOT safe from audit, Trump has said he wants to audit the fed and we may have some bills coming up soon.

    Trump is helping Rand pass his healthcare plan, if you think Trump actually supported RyanCare then you are foolish and you need to go read the threads where I addressed this topic. Rand was talking to Trump 2-3 times a week, and Rand told Trump straight up it wasn't going to pass, it didn't have the votes. Trump knew it wasn't going to pass, so he supported it to make sure it was all Paul Ryan's failure and none of it could be blamed on him. Trump hates Paul Ryan.

    Trump is going to help save Syria, with Russia's help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It is not about brainwashing. You can support Trump for practical reasons. I think Danno is right about the Syria missile strikes helping Trump politically in the US. The media stopped talking about the sickening russian narrative. Proof again it was just a hoax to manipulate the public opinion.

    Trump made a good call as a politician. Libertarian souls can bitch all they want about principles and being conned. Trump is going to disappointed again. I have enough hairchest.

    Just answer the question. Which game is Trump playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Or better yet pick me up some of that kobe beef.
    That's what I'm talking about.

    (I luvz me some good steak)

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, he has become a reformed individual. He voted for both the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He even wasted time trying to change French Fries to "Freedom Fries" on the House menu.
    But, but, but....
    Every man deserves a chance at redemption and, while I'm not happy with everything about him, I am happy with the direction he turned.
    No, not perfect. But darn good especially since the district he represents is a full on government loving military loving bucket of neocons. He has been a consistent voice for 9-11 truth and that is really something to me.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

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    Update - Briefing scheduled for Friday:


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    So they get free briefs too?

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    I have researched this independently on my own, without the use of tax payer money.

    In areas where democrat voters are higher in number, I visually saw clinton/kane signage which outnumbered trump/pence signage.

    In areas where republican voters are higher in number, I visually saw trump/pence signage which outnumbered clinton/kane signage.

    I randomly spoke to few folks from both parties. Here is what I learned:

    I asked clinton supporters if they supported/voted for clinton because they felt coerced by Russia, or any other country. The answer was NO.

    I asked trump supporters if they supported/voted for trump because they felt coerced by Russia, or any other country. The answer was a big HELL NO --USA USA.

    Though I did not vote this election because I do not like either candidate, the fact remains that I still see "trump/pence make america great again" signage to this day everywhere I travel.


    I dare someone to go up to a trump/pence supporter and accuse them of voting for trump/pence because the russians made them do it. Or obama supporter back in 2012 and accuse them of the same.

    Stupid topic. And stupid so-called americans on both sides who are so damned naive/gullible, I do not even know why I bothered with this. Maybe I should cash in and charge a tax.
    Last edited by ProudAmericanFirst; 01-13-2017 at 06:15 AM.

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