Implementing a welfare program such as unemployment benefit

[Republicanguy]

Hi,

In Which state could a governor propose a welfare program to gives its citizens access to unemployment benefit. This would be about $70 dollars a week, paid every two weeks, paid into a bank account. The claimants would need to provide a record of applications of what ever that may be. There would be optional training programs too.

As well apartment subsidies.

What state could implement such policies, a governor alone certainly couldn't. The congress would need to discuss it and vote on it, but whether such a initiative could work.

Thoughts on that?

[Dr.3D]

It's called unemployment insurance and employers pay money to have it.

[presence]

if you subsidize unemployment you get more of it

[Seraphim]

if you subsidize unemployment you get more of it

Subsidy drives up demand. Who knew logic could be used to implement sane policy?

[timosman]

There would be optional training programs too.

Any skills acquired through an optional training program are usually insufficient to sustain yourself even less so a family. Why would anyone be sending their kids through the college grinder to incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt if this option was really available?

[phill4paul]

Everyone should be able to have a Welfare Savings Account, much like an HSA, but any gains on it should also be tax free.

[Dr.No.]

Any skills acquired through an optional training program are usually insufficient to sustain yourself even less so a family. Why would anyone be sending their kids through the college grinder to incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt if this option was really available?

Not necessarily disagreeing with you (of course, there are some exceptional training programs that do break from the norm), but there is the argument that degree programs are more about accreditation rather than education. Even the private sector tends to value degrees highly over completion of programs/experience. In short, degree programs are favoured since that is what employers want, and the employers aren't being wholly rational in their desire for it.

[timosman]

Not necessarily disagreeing with you (of course, there are some exceptional training programs that do break from the norm), but there is the argument that degree programs are more about accreditation rather than education. Even the private sector tends to value degrees highly over completion of programs/experience. In short, degree programs are favoured since that is what employers want, and the employers aren't being wholly rational in their desire for it.

You just proved my point. Thank you!

[MelissaWV]

Trade schools used to be a decent path, not to mention simply acquiring a skill and working with someone in an apprenticeship to hone that skill. That's probably what you are thinking of by "training on the side" and it shouldn't be touched by Government.

Other training programs exist @timosman , and some of them are actually good alternatives, but people seldom see it that way at the time. I worked at Publix when I was much, much younger, but I left it because I knew better than everyone else and had a big city job waiting for me. In hindsight, if I'd stayed at Publix (a popular grocery store in the southeast), I would be in management by now and making a pretty good wage. I would also have a very nice pile of stock, great benefits, etc.. Mind you, I did eventually get a job I really enjoy, but my point is that few people at age 14-19 are considering staying at a grocery store or fast food job.

[oyarde]

It's called unemployment insurance and employers pay money to have it.

Yep .

[timosman]

Other training programs exist, and some of them are actually good alternatives, but people seldom see it that way at the time.

Care to name one?

[MelissaWV]

Care to name one?

I thought you meant company-provided programs or similar college substitutes. It looks like I misread your post.

[presence]

Everyone should be able to have a Welfare Savings Account, much like an HSA, but any gains on it should also be tax free.

yes

and if I need a hooker and some blow for my welfare,
I should be able to pull from those funds without recourse

[timosman]

I thought you meant company-provided programs or similar college substitutes. It looks like I misread your post.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[phill4paul]

yes

and if I need a hooker and some blow for my welfare,
I should be able to pull from those funds without recourse

Absolutely. Who am I, or anyone, to say what you need to maintain good health or contribute to your welfare.

[angelatc]

Hi,

In Which state could a governor propose a welfare program to gives its citizens access to unemployment benefit. This would be about $70 dollars a week, paid every two weeks, paid into a bank account. The claimants would need to provide a record of applications of what ever that may be. There would be optional training programs too.

As well apartment subsidies.

What state could implement such policies, a governor alone certainly couldn't. The congress would need to discuss it and vote on it, but whether such a initiative could work.

Thoughts on that?

Should the government ___________? No.

[Republicanguy]

It can't happen federally, so perhaps there is may be one state in the Union that could implement this.

But I don't believe that at all, sure everyone has their own preference. People will eventually get off the system, nobody wants to be on that for ever. Its a bad attitude to live in a society that only offers god and charity, with no security. But since no politician has ever been on a system like this, it is unlikely one would walk forward to implement one.

What there is here is the Job seekers act of 1995. No state congress is going to vote some sort of an equivalent, a socialist would need to take the guns first. What a reality.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...9950018_en.pdf

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Its a bad attitude to live in a society that only offers god and charity, with no security.

Uh, no man. It's really:



Your bad attitude
Twisted views
Bad, bad attitude

[Republicanguy]

No it is a bad attitude. Its a contradiction, nobody who holds views such as Libertarianism can call themselves a christian, but then since the old testament sanctions slavery, assault and all the nasties of life, what can one even expect.

If you want my view on religion and god generally, Jerusalem's holy sites should be for social homes. Benefit the residents, not myth and mad for all madness from the past just to live in this reality we call life.