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    Obamacare is 'entering a death spiral', Paul Ryan says

    Legacy situation of SWCcare is getting worse:

    Paul Ryan says Obamacare is 'entering a death spiral'

    Jacob Pramuk
    Wednesday, 7 Dec 2016

    Paul Ryan hammered President Barack Obama's health care law Wednesday, stressing that he plans to use the early days of Donald Trump's presidency to "fix" the insurance system.
    "You have to remember this law is getting much worse. It is what actuaries say, 'Entering a death spiral.' High, high premiums increase, high deductibles, no choices. We have to fix this problem," the House speaker told CNBC's "Squawk Box."

    President-elect Donald Trump campaigned on a pledge to "repeal and replace" the law, known as Obamacare. He seized on rising premiums under the plan, which has broadly expanded health coverage in the United States.





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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    $#@!s...

    You do not "fix", you do not "tweak", you do not "reform", you do not "replace"...

    You stomp this $#@!ing abomination into the ground until dead and then salt the earth where it stood.

    Do the $#@!ing job you were elected to do, assenholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@!s...

    You do not "fix", you do not "tweak", you do not "reform", you do not "replace"...

    You stomp this $#@!ing abomination into the ground until dead and then salt the earth where it stood.
    There is a good chance that it will be repealed quite soon, petitions like these are gaining momentum.



    Congress and President-Elect Trump : Repeal Obamacare in the First 100 Days




    Petition By:

    Americans for Tax Reform


    http://www.standunited.org/petition/...widget-2016343

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    The House has voted to repeal it numerous times. Now that they control all 3 chambers, suddenly those efforts have vanished. Imagine that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The House has voted to repeal it numerous times. Now that they control all 3 chambers, suddenly those efforts have vanished. Imagine that.
    Too many insurance companies making money from it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The House has voted to repeal it numerous times. Now that they control all 3 chambers, suddenly those efforts have vanished. Imagine that.
    It was an easy vote when they knew the bill would be vetoed. Now they are going to be responsible for whatever happens. If they suddenly scrap it, millions could lose health insurance and the insurance companies could be hurt also as they lose the revenues from those people.

    Trump has backed off repealing it. He wants to keep a lot of it in fact. He won't just scrap it without something new to replace it with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The House has voted to repeal it numerous times. Now that they control all 3 chambers, suddenly those efforts have vanished. Imagine that.
    Yeah, really, imagine my surprise as well.

    I'm still waiting for the Dept. of Education to go away, that was promised over twenty years ago when the assenhole GOP had full control as well.



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    Republicans have no reason to act like Republicans.

    Thanks for that clue, Dr. Paul.
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    Yeah, they never seem to have a problem when it comes time to pass one of these big steaming piles of same ole same ole
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If they suddenly scrap it, millions could lose health insurance and the insurance companies could be hurt also as they lose the revenues from those people.

    People would not "lose" their health insurance if the law was repealed. The bill required people to buy insurance.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The House has voted to repeal it numerous times. Now that they control all 3 chambers, suddenly those efforts have vanished. Imagine that.
    Obamacare is going nowhere. Its all going to get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@!s...

    You do not "fix", you do not "tweak", you do not "reform", you do not "replace"...

    You stomp this $#@!ing abomination into the ground until dead and then salt the earth where it stood.

    Do the $#@!ing job you were elected to do, assenholes.
    Sure, that is what a conservative would do.

    Is it what a populist would do?
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    That Paul Ryan

    so hot right now
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Sure, that is what a conservative would do.

    Is it what a populist would do?
    Damn if I know...it's what I would do.

    Abolish the life tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Valid point.
    Thank you for stating the obvious.

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    Obamacare: Insurance at gunpoint. An offer you cannot refuse, or pay the um "taxes".
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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