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    Flynn's son 'is no longer involved in transition efforts'


    The son of President-elect Donald Trump's incoming national security adviser, who has sparked controversy with his public defense of a conspiracy theory that a Washington pizza place is a front for a child abuse ring run by Democrats, is no longer working with Trump's transition team.

    Trump spokesman Jason Miller told reporters Tuesday that Michael Flynn Jr., the son of former Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, had been helping his father with "administration and scheduling duties early on in the transition process."

    "He is no longer involved in transition efforts," Miller added on a conference call with reporters.

    The Flynns have become embroiled in the controversy over the conspiracy theory, nicknamed "Pizzagate," after an armed man walked into the Comet Ping Pong pizza place in Washington on Sunday, telling police he wanted to investigate the theory that accuses top Democrats like presidential nominee Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta of involvement in a child abuse ring.

    While the incoming national security adviser has previously tweeted about conspiracies and similar allegations against top Democrats, his son has taken to Twitter to trumpet the conspiracy theory and accuse detractors of looking to hide the truth.

    CNN reported on Monday that the younger Flynn had been given an official transition team email address, sparking questions about his involvement with the incoming administration. Vice President-elect Mike Pence told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Tuesday morning that the son has "no involvement in the transition team whatsoever."

    The Sunday arrest at the family-friendly pizza parlor has supercharged the debate over the dissemination of fake news, and a group of liberal organizations has called on Trump to rescind his appointment of the elder Flynn over the issue.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...nsition-report
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    So Then,,

    obviously nothing to it.

    but it has consequences.
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    What kind of logic would make a person think this?
    1. Pizzagate consists of more than just a word or an idea, such as the Bigfoot example. Those millions of hits are representative of millions of discussions on the matter referencing incriminating images, phrases, comments, associations, emails, etc.

    2. Fiction means to not based on fact, to be untrue or imaginary. To state that Pizzagate is a fiction is a blatant misnomer.

    3. Pizzagate is about more than simply Comet Ping Pong and (at this time) bears no direct associations to Killary Clinton, but such is not the case for her underlings--however, we do know she was involved in Haitian cover-ups and some very strange happenings there with children.
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  8. #66
    So what? What' the point of the post Cpud? Trying to smear anyone that calls for an investigation?
    Podesta should be investigated.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  9. #67
    I'm sure a few on here have seen lost boys movie

    Found something odd ...if it hasn't been mentioned here..

    In th e movie theres a missing person board someone is looking at

    Can't remember if most on it are children but
    At the bottom there is a pizza with a circle around it.
    Movie was 1987 I think and the guy who directed it was into studying occult stuff I think.
    Anyway...weird I thought

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    So what? What' the point of the post Cpud? Trying to smear anyone that calls for an investigation?
    Podesta should be investigated.
    I didn't write the article, and I didn't kick Flynn Jr off the transition team.


    "flynn jr fired" About 440,000 results (0.45 seconds)
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    So you aren't even going ot believe this, but it is true:
    The "gunman", Edgar Maddison Welch, was an actor, right?
    Check out the role he played in this 2005 movie:
    IMDB
    2005
    Movie Title: Something About Pizza


    Celine Reichel ... Sister
    Alain Schumann ... Brother
    Patrick Védie ... The pizza deliverer
    Edgar Maddison Welch ... The Gunman

    A young girl comes from school hungry, but her brother left nothing of her favorite food: Pizza. Her only thought now is revenge.

  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So you aren't even going ot believe this, but it is true:
    The "gunman", Edgar Maddison Welch, was an actor, right?
    Check out the role he played in this 2005 movie:
    IMDB
    2005
    Movie Title: Something About Pizza


    Celine Reichel ... Sister
    Alain Schumann ... Brother
    Patrick Védie ... The pizza deliverer
    Edgar Maddison Welch ... The Gunman

    A young girl comes from school hungry, but her brother left nothing of her favorite food: Pizza. Her only thought now is revenge.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    2017 is going to be a very fun year
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I didn't write the article, and I didn't kick Flynn Jr off the transition team.
    Sure but Cpud specfically chose it to post. What does it have to do with the stage actor Welch that entered Comet ? What motive is behind bringing Flynn to the goofball Welch thread unless it is a smear attempt to somehow irrationally connect Flynn to the armed stage actor because Flynn is one of the many millions that called for an investigation?
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  16. #73
    Trump fires Michael Flynn Jr., son of national security adviser, after phony-news tweets

    On Tuesday, President-elect Donald Trump dropped Michael G. Flynn, the son of designated national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, from his transition staff. Transition officials say the cause for the firing was the younger Flynn's social media posts, especially his support for the false "pizzagate" conspiracy theory that Democratic operatives were running a child sex ring out of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant. Flynn, 33, continued to insist the story was true even after police arrested an armed man on Sunday who came to the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria and fired at least two rounds, claiming he was there to "self-investigate" the fake story.

    Before Trump transition spokesman Jason Miller announced Tuesday morning that Flynn, chief of staff and scheduler for his father, was no longer involved with the transition, Vice President–elect Mike Pence had said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that the younger Flynn had "no involvement in the transition whatsoever." On Tuesday night, CNN's Jake Tapper repeatedly pressed Pence on why Flynn Jr. had a transition email account and if he'd been aware that the transition team had requested security clearance for the younger Flynn, and Pence called the whole story a "distraction" and insisted that Flynn has just been helping his father schedule meetings.

    This appears to be the first time Trump has taken action against a Trump insider who has spread fake news stories. Gen. Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, is weathering bipartisan criticism over, among other things, his own promotion of false conspiracy theories, though he has taken to tweeting anodyne messages since Trump's election. Flynn Jr.'s last post before going silent Monday afternoon was a retweet of a fake-news article claiming the Comet Ping Pong gunman is an actor hired to debunk the fake sex-trafficking story. The younger Flynn had reportedly planned to join his father on Trump's National Security Council. -Peter Weber
    http://theweek.com/speedreads/665896...onynews-tweets
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Maybe they kicked him off for telegraphing moves, and this is their way of undoing that.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    1. Pizzagate consists of more than just a word or an idea, such as the Bigfoot example. Those millions of hits are representative of millions of discussions on the matter referencing incriminating images, phrases, comments, associations, emails, etc.

    2. Fiction means to not based on fact, to be untrue or imaginary. To state that Pizzagate is a fiction is a blatant misnomer.

    3. Pizzagate is about more than simply Comet Ping Pong and (at this time) bears no direct associations to Killary Clinton, but such is not the case for her underlings--however, we do know she was involved in Haitian cover-ups and some very strange happenings there with children.
    Millions of Google hits for a pairing of words do not mean that millions of people are discussing the same thing that you mean by that pairing of words.

    And even if millions of people are discussing something, that doesn't mean that it's not fiction.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...es%20of%20grey

    See?

    This shouldn't need to be explained.

  19. #76
    Why would a jailed individual be able to videoconference with the NYT yet not be able to speak to his parents?



    SALISBURY, N.C. (AP) — The man accused of firing an assault rifle inside a Washington restaurant said he regrets how he handled the situation but refused to completely dismiss the false online claims involving a child sex ring that brought him there.

    "I just wanted to do some good and went about it the wrong way," Edgar Maddison Welch, who's been jailed since his Sunday arrest, told The New York Times in a Wednesday videoconference.
    Tadlock said Welch's parents haven't been able to talk to him to ask what he was thinking, and the family's only information comes from the news and the public defender.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/pizza-sho...080035405.html

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Why would a jailed individual be able to videoconference with the NYT yet not be able to speak to his parents?







    https://www.yahoo.com/news/pizza-sho...080035405.html
    Maybe he didn't want to talk to his parents?

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Maybe he didn't want to talk to his parents?
    Possible. I just find it rather odd that a jailed individual has access to video conferencing. Usually information is disseminated through their lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So you aren't even going ot believe this, but it is true:
    The "gunman", Edgar Maddison Welch, was an actor, right?
    Check out the role he played in this 2005 movie:
    IMDB
    2005
    Movie Title: Something About Pizza


    Celine Reichel ... Sister
    Alain Schumann ... Brother
    Patrick Védie ... The pizza deliverer
    Edgar Maddison Welch ... The Gunman

    A young girl comes from school hungry, but her brother left nothing of her favorite food: Pizza. Her only thought now is revenge.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So you aren't even going ot believe this, but it is true:
    The "gunman", Edgar Maddison Welch, was an actor, right?
    Check out the role he played in this 2005 movie:
    IMDB
    2005
    Movie Title: Something About Pizza


    Celine Reichel ... Sister
    Alain Schumann ... Brother
    Patrick Védie ... The pizza deliverer
    Edgar Maddison Welch ... The Gunman

    A young girl comes from school hungry, but her brother left nothing of her favorite food: Pizza. Her only thought now is revenge.
    I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you actually believe this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you actually believe this.
    If IMDB is editable... ....then I don't believe it. I don;t know how IMDB works, if it is done by professionals, (an account by the film company) or if it is open source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Maybe they kicked him off for telegraphing moves, and this is their way of undoing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    If IMDB is editable... ....then I don't believe it. I don;t know how IMDB works, if it is done by professionals, (an account by the film company) or if it is open source.
    Why do you default to believing the information then?
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    If IMDB is editable... ....then I don't believe it. I don;t know how IMDB works, if it is done by professionals, (an account by the film company) or if it is open source.
    I would use an internet archive site to see if it was up there a couple weeks ago.

    IMDB isn't as easy to edit as wikipedia, but it is largely or partly based on user input.
    Last edited by dannno; 12-08-2016 at 12:00 PM.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Millions of Google hits for a pairing of words do not mean that millions of people are discussing the same thing that you mean by that pairing of words.

    And even if millions of people are discussing something, that doesn't mean that it's not fiction.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...es%20of%20grey

    See?

    This shouldn't need to be explained.
    You are comparing a fictional sex movie to actual events that entails hard evidence? Where is that herpa derpa meme at...

    And when using "50 and shades and of and grey" the difference decreases from "About 5,380,000 results (0.48 seconds)" to "About 5,080,000 results (0.54 seconds)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I would use an internet archive site to see if it was up there a couple weeks ago.
    It wasn't. But when it's fixed then a new round of "news" will be published saying "OMG IMDB SCRUBBED THE TRUTH! JEWS JEWS JEWS ETC ETC"

    And the cycle will begin anew.
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Why would a jailed individual be able to videoconference with the NYT yet not be able to speak to his parents?
    Depends on what the videoconference was. If it was a remote video session then it's bull$#@! since jail staff isn't going to set him up with a computer terminal to skype, unless he's getting special treatment for some reason. If it was a NYT reporter actually going to the jail and having a "visit" with the inmate then it could be legit. "Visits" are done by video at more and more jails so money can be extracted out of visitors ("pay to visit"). However, jails usually require visitors to be on an approved visitor list in advance so if the NYT reporter was on his visitor list then it's more evidence of bs. Just a lot of variables, though imo it's mostly an academic exercise since I'm sure the whole shooting narrative is bs.
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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    So you aren't even going ot believe this, but it is true:
    The "gunman", Edgar Maddison Welch, was an actor, right?
    Check out the role he played in this 2005 movie:
    IMDB
    2005
    Movie Title: Something About Pizza


    Celine Reichel ... Sister
    Alain Schumann ... Brother
    Patrick Védie ... The pizza deliverer
    Edgar Maddison Welch ... The Gunman

    A young girl comes from school hungry, but her brother left nothing of her favorite food: Pizza. Her only thought now is revenge.
    Hes not listed anymore



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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    You are comparing a fictional sex movie to actual events that entails hard evidence?
    Says who?

    The fact that there are millions of google hits is no proof that something isn't fictional, as proven by the fact that fictional stories get millions of Google hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son_of_Liberty90 View Post
    Hes not listed anymore
    [/
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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