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    Man in the Netherlands euthanised due to his alcohol addiction

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7446256.html

    A man in the Netherlands has been allowed to die because he could no longer carry on living as an alcoholic.

    Mark Langedijk chose the day of his death and was telling jokes, drinking beer and eating ham sandwiches with his family hours before he passed away.

    He was killed by lethal injection at his parents’ home on 14 July, according to an account of the ordeal written by his brother and published in the magazine Linda.

    The Netherlands introduced a euthanasia law 16 years ago, which is available to people in “unbearable suffering” with no prospect of improvement.

    Marcel Langedijk wrote his brother had a “happy childhood” and was loved by both his parents, and only found out he had an addiction eight years ago.

    “I was particularly angry at Mark,” he said. “At first we did what most people do; help. My parents especially have done everything humanly possible to save Mark.”

    His parents continued to believe in a “happy ending” despite eight years of help and 21 stints in rehab.

    Eventually, Mr Langedijk told his family he wanted to die, but the family originally took the news with “a grain of salt”.

    But his brother had no second thoughts. His application for euthanasia was approved by a doctor from the Support and Consultation on Euthanasia in the Netherlands.

    On the day of his death, he “laughed, drank, smoked, ate ham and cheese sandwiches and soup with meatballs” until his doctor arrived at his parents’ home at 3.15pm.

    His doctor explained the procedure, before telling Mr Landedijk to get into bed and to stay calm.

    At this point, they all “started crying, my parents, everyone actually, even Mark”.

    “We cried, told each other that we loved each other, that it would be all right, that we would care for each other, that we would see each other again, we held each other,” he said. “If it was not so terrible, it would have been nice.

    “Mark's eyes turned away, he sighed deeply. His last. Dr Marijke injected the third syringe. His face changed, lost color. My little brother was dead.”

    More than 5,500 people ended their life using Holland’s euthanasia laws last year. One of those who died was a sex abuse victim who suffered severe anorexia, chronic depression and hallucinations.

    Fiona Bruce, a Conservative MP, told the Daily Mail news of Mr Landedijk's death was "deeply concerning and yet another reason why assisted suicide and euthanasia must never be introduced into the UK".

    “What someone suffering from alcoholism needs is support and treatment to get better from their addiction – which can be provided – not to be euthanised," she added.

    “It is once again a troubling sign of how legalised euthanasia undermines in other countries the treatment and help the most vulnerable should receive.”

    Responding to Mrs Bruce, Marcel Langedijk told the Independent: "You can close your eyes to it and keep telling yourself everyone is curable but the fact remains, not everyone is.

    "My brother suffered from depression and anxiety and tried to 'cure' it with alcohol. He's from a normal family, he did not want this to happen. He did not take an easy way out. Just a humane one.

    "If that's troubling for Mrs Bruce that's a pity. I am just glad my brother did not have to jump in front of a train or live a few more years in agony before dying of his abuse.

    "Alcoholism and depression are illnesses, just like cancer. People who suffer from it need a humane way out.

    "It's not like we go around killing people in Holland. It took my brother a year and a half and many struggles to get it done."



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    "Alcoholism and depression are illnesses, just like cancer. People who suffer from it need a humane way out.
    Bull$#@!. Screw that. Look where that thinking takes you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_depression

    Goodbye moms.


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    He was only 41.

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    This is just the scariest thing ever. I cannot believe that a civilized society has so little regard for human life.
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    That is the saddest thing I've in a very long time.

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    I had not even had a drink today until I read this . I am having one now .
    Do something Danke

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    Should a person have the right to decide to end their own life?

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    I suppose he could have just put a bullet in his brain pan and left a mess for someone else to clean up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Should a person have the right to decide to end their own life?
    Every person already has that "right"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Should a person have the right to decide to end their own life?
    The issue here is that society is condoning it. Just like abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I suppose he could have just put a bullet in his brain pan and left a mess for someone else to clean up.
    My neighbor did that last Winter. Put the end of a shotgun in his mouth and coated the basement ceiling with his brains and his wife had to come home to the mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The issue here is that society is condoning it. Just like abortion.
    con·done
    [kənˈdōn]
    VERB
    accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue:

    A fetus does not have a conscience choice. An adult does. A friend of mine just had the plug pulled on his mother. She had an aneurism. She wasn't coming back and thankfully she had a living will. It absolved them of all guilt and debt by keeping her in a state she chose not to be kept in. This guy went through 20+ rehabs in 8 yrs. He wasn't coming back. He chose to have the plug pulled.
    I have no problem with this. We should have the right to end our lives in the manner we see fit. I do not understand why there could be opposition to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    My neighbor did that last Winter. Put the end of a shotgun in his mouth and coated the basement ceiling with his brains and his wife had to come home to the mess.
    And that is a terrible thing. Some people just get to the point that dying seems better than living. For any number of reasons. If you believe that an individual is a sovereign and is allowed to make their own choices then you believe that they have the ability to design their own death. If not then you believe religious belief and government force trumps individual liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    con·done
    [kənˈdōn]
    VERB
    accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue:

    A fetus does not have a conscience choice. An adult does. A friend of mine just had the plug pulled on his mother. She had an aneurism. She wasn't coming back and thankfully she had a living will. It absolved them of all guilt and debt by keeping her in a state she chose not to be kept in. This guy went through 20+ rehabs in 8 yrs. He wasn't coming back. He chose to have the plug pulled.
    I have no problem with this. We should have the right to end our lives in the manner we see fit. I do not understand why there could be opposition to this.
    It's dehumanizing and society should not just accept it. I don't think it should be illegal but I don't think it should be just a should shrug / walk away thing from people. You have the right to get stupifyingly drunk every night but that doesn't mean everyone else should just automatically approve of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    It's dehumanizing and society should not just accept it. I don't think it should be illegal but I don't think it should be just a should shrug / walk away thing from people. You have the right to get stupifyingly drunk every night but that doesn't mean everyone else should just automatically approve of it.
    Well , we will just have to disagree. Dehumanizing to me would be wasting away on a bed with liver cirrhosis while everyone wiped my ass for months. And others don't have to approve of it. They just have to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well , we will just have to disagree. Dehumanizing to me would be wasting away on a bed with liver cirrhosis while everyone wiped my ass for months. And others don't have to approve of it. They just have to accept it.
    Us? Disagree? Imagine that!



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Us? Disagree? Imagine that!

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    The problem with this story is it takes one case and makes it seem humanitarian to assist someone in their taking their own life. It's a carefully crafted piece in favor of euthanasia. The reality is there are going to be only so many cases that resemble this, the majority are going to be older folks guilted into it so they won't be a burden to their children and retarded (think Downs Syndrome) adults and others along that line.

    This is purely the progressive media putting a happy face on euthanasia.

    No different then when they wail "but what about rape and if the mothers life is threatened?" when they're talking about abortion when 95% of them are for nothing more than convenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    The problem with this story is it takes one case and makes it seem humanitarian to assist someone in their taking their own life. It's a carefully crafted piece in favor of euthanasia. The reality is there are going to be only so many cases that resemble this, the majority are going to be older folks guilted into it so they won't be a burden to their children and retarded (think Downs Syndrome) adults and others along that line.

    This is purely the progressive media putting a happy face on euthanasia.

    No different then when they wail "but what about rape and if the mothers life is threatened?" when they're talking about abortion when 95% of them are for nothing more than convenience.
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