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    Exclamation The DEA is trying to ban another plant, this time kratom (Call To Action urgent)

    I'm a young man living in Lincoln, NE. I used to visit the DailyPaul every day and also visited RonPaulForums. I just made an account to post this urgent message. My cousin is a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom and uses kratom to help with the pain of his injuries and PTSD. There is something going on with the DEA that profoundly affects him and his health and I just want to spread the word to those who will listen and care.

    The DEA is trying to ban another plant. This time it's kratom (Mitragyna speciosa), a plant from Southeast Asia related to the coffee plant. People have used it for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years for physical pain, fever reduction, diarrhea, coughs, hypertension, anxiety, depression, insomnia, and fatigue among other things. Many veterans use kratom to help with PTSD. Countless people have used it to help break their alcohol or opiate addiction. Kratom has saved many lives in this way.

    In lower doses it's stimulating like caffeine and in higher doses it's sedating. Most people take it in their morning tea. Though some take it in capsule form because it is so bitter. You do not become inebriated from kratom and it is not an opiate. It does not cause respiratory depression and is not a hallucinogen. It is about as habit forming as coffee. The primary alkaloid in kratom, mitragynine, is also present in the coffee plant. Kratom's effects are mild at most. Millions of Americans (estimated 3-5 million by the AKA) are using kratom today and have been for decades. There are thousands of (possibly more than 10,000 estimated by the BEA) American kratom small businesses.

    The DEA tried to emergency schedule (ban) kratom in September. They cited as their reason 15 deaths over a two year timespan. They later admitted that those deaths involved other substances, which were undoubtedly the cause. Compare this to the literal millions of poisonings and deaths caused by things like prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, Tylenol, Aspirin, caffeine, food allergies, laundry detergent pods, etc. every year. This is actually a record of amazing safety not danger. If kratom was actually dangerous as the DEA is portraying then there would be millions of dead people. They were going to put kratom into Schedule I with heroin and meth which is beyond absurd and frankly insane.

    After the large public backlash the DEA temporarily retracted the ban. This has never happened before in the entire history of the DEA. It is historic. They are now doing a public commenting period on the Regulations.gov website (on track for the most comments ever) until December 1st while the FDA does an 8 factor analysis on kratom. You can read the thousands of personal testimonials from people who use kratom there.

    As an example of how kratom is treated in other places, in Canada, kratom is completely legal and classified as a NHP or Natural Health Product under Schedule 1 item 1 (plant or plant material) of the NHP Regulations. In 2015 the Florida Department of Law Enforcement studied kratom and determined that "Kratom does not constitute a significant risk to the safety and welfare of Florida residents." The Florida Department of Health added that, "there are no pervasive health issues that can be attributed to the ingestion of kratom products in Florida."

    If you would like to do something about this issue then you can sign the WhiteHouse.gov petition (complete) or the Action Network petition. The American Kratom Association and the Botanical Education Alliance are asking for donations. You may also contact your Senators and ask them to sign Senator Orrin Hatch's letter to the DEA which has 9 signatures or Senator Ron Wyden's letter which has 3 signatures. You may also contact your Representative and ask them to sign Representative Mark Pocan's/Matt Salmon's letter to the DEA which has 51 signatures. You can also contact the White House directly here. There is also a very active subreddit.

    If you have personal experience (not required) with kratom then I strongly request you leave a comment to the DEA on the Regulations.gov website or alternatively here. The deadline to leave comments is December 1st.

    It would be very helpful if the mods could sticky this thread while the situation is developing or until Decedmber 1st. The community must stand united on issues like this. We can't allow millions more Americans, especially veterans, who have done nothing wrong and hurt no one to be turned into criminals and become victims of the Drug War for using a natural herbal health supplement.



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    Thanks for the reminder.

    This plant has no business getting banned.
    ...

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    Kudos for your efforts OP, but there's no way in hell I'm writing anything to the DEA.

    Sorry, and I agree that this is another plant that government needs to leave alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Kudos for your efforts OP, but there's no way in hell I'm writing anything to the DEA.

    Sorry, and I agree that this is another plant that government needs to leave alone.
    You can leave an anonymous comment. No need for your name or address or anything.

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    If there is enough demand for kratom, it will be widely available if the DEA bans it.

    Government prohibition laws are not above economic laws. If there is a demand, some entrepreneur will step up and sell it.

    Weed has been illegal for 40 years, but yet it's available everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nortica View Post
    You can leave an anonymous comment. No need for your name or address or anything.

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    at some point humanity will realize that both legalizing and illegalizing human action is unlawful

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    at some point humanity will realize that both legalizing and illegalizing human action is unlawful
    Not until after the Aliens have returned.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Not until after the Aliens have returned.
    aliens,jebus,mohotmot

    I don't really give a $#@! what it takes as long as we get there

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by nortica View Post
    I'm a young man living in Lincoln, NE. I used to visit the DailyPaul every day and also visited RonPaulForums. I just made an account to post this urgent message. My cousin is a veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom and uses kratom to help with the pain of his injuries and PTSD. There is something going on with the DEA that profoundly affects him and his health and I just want to spread the word to those who will listen and care.

    The DEA is trying to ban another plant. This time it's kratom (Mitragyna speciosa), a plant from Southeast Asia related to the coffee plant. People have used it for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years for physical pain, fever reduction, diarrhea, coughs, hypertension, anxiety, depression, insomnia, and fatigue among other things. Many veterans use kratom to help with PTSD. Countless people have used it to help break their alcohol or opiate addiction. Kratom has saved many lives in this way.

    In lower doses it's stimulating like caffeine and in higher doses it's sedating. Most people take it in their morning tea. Though some take it in capsule form because it is so bitter. You do not become inebriated from kratom and it is not an opiate. It does not cause respiratory depression and is not a hallucinogen. It is about as habit forming as coffee. The primary alkaloid in kratom, mitragynine, is also present in the coffee plant. Kratom's effects are mild at most. Millions of Americans (estimated 3-5 million by the AKA) are using kratom today and have been for decades. There are thousands of (possibly more than 10,000 estimated by the BEA) American kratom small businesses.

    The DEA tried to emergency schedule (ban) kratom in September. They cited as their reason 15 deaths over a two year timespan. They later admitted that those deaths involved other substances, which were undoubtedly the cause. Compare this to the literal millions of poisonings and deaths caused by things like prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, Tylenol, Aspirin, caffeine, food allergies, laundry detergent pods, etc. every year. This is actually a record of amazing safety not danger. If kratom was actually dangerous as the DEA is portraying then there would be millions of dead people. They were going to put kratom into Schedule I with heroin and meth which is beyond absurd and frankly insane.

    After the large public backlash the DEA temporarily retracted the ban. This has never happened before in the entire history of the DEA. It is historic. They are now doing a public commenting period on the Regulations.gov website (on track for the most comments ever) until December 1st while the FDA does an 8 factor analysis on kratom. You can read the thousands of personal testimonials from people who use kratom there.

    As an example of how kratom is treated in other places, in Canada, kratom is completely legal and classified as a NHP or Natural Health Product under Schedule 1 item 1 (plant or plant material) of the NHP Regulations. In 2015 the Florida Department of Law Enforcement studied kratom and determined that "Kratom does not constitute a significant risk to the safety and welfare of Florida residents." The Florida Department of Health added that, "there are no pervasive health issues that can be attributed to the ingestion of kratom products in Florida."

    If you would like to do something about this issue then you can sign the WhiteHouse.gov petition (complete) or the Action Network petition. The American Kratom Association and the Botanical Education Alliance are asking for donations. You may also contact your Senators and ask them to sign Senator Orrin Hatch's letter to the DEA which has 9 signatures or Senator Ron Wyden's letter which has 3 signatures. You may also contact your Representative and ask them to sign Representative Mark Pocan's/Matt Salmon's letter to the DEA which has 51 signatures. You can also contact the White House directly here. There is also a very active subreddit.

    If you have personal experience (not required) with kratom then I strongly request you leave a comment to the DEA on the Regulations.gov website or alternatively here. The deadline to leave comments is December 1st.

    It would be very helpful if the mods could sticky this thread while the situation is developing or until Decedmber 1st. The community must stand united on issues like this. We can't allow millions more Americans, especially veterans, who have done nothing wrong and hurt no one to be turned into criminals and become victims of the Drug War for using a natural herbal health supplement.
    Bump! Thanks for the reminder. I'll try to copy/past your info on other forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athan View Post
    Bump! Thanks for the reminder. I'll try to copy/past your info on other forums.
    Thanks so much friend!

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    The deadline to submit public comments about kratom is this Thursday December 1st. We need as many comments on there as possible. You don't have to be a kratom user to submit a comment. You can submit your comment here or here. I urge everyone who cares about stopping a massive expansion of the Drug War to do this simple action!

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    You can submit your comment here
    I submitted this file anon to fedgov:

    Last edited by presence; 11-29-2016 at 08:59 AM.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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