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    I fully support this, and am going to donate to the cause.


    Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/esse...htmlstory.html

    Supporters of a plan for California to secede from the union took their first formal step Monday morning, submitting a proposed ballot measure to the state attorney general’s office in the hopes of a statewide vote as soon as 2018.

    Marcus Ruiz Evans, the vice president and co-founder of Yes California, said his group had been planning to wait for a later election, but the presidential election of Donald Trump sped up the timeline.

    “We’re doing it now because of all of the overwhelming attention,” Evans said.

    The Yes California group has been around for more than two years, Evans said. It is based around California taxpayers paying more money to the federal government than the state receives in spending, that Californians are culturally different from the rest of the country, and that national media and organizations routinely criticize Californians for being out of step with the rest of the U.S.

    The attorney general’s office will give the ballot measure a title and summary, and Evans said he hopes to begin collecting signatures to get it on the ballot in the spring. Qualifying ballot measures typically requires significant resources to pay signature gatherers, and Yes California doesn’t have major financial backing. But Evans said 13,000 people have volunteered to collect signatures.

    “This is real,” Evans said. “We treat it seriously.”

    Various groups have made noise about California forming its own country in the wake of Trump’s election this month, most prominently Silicon Valley financier Shervin Pishevar. But similar proposals have dotted the state’s political landscape for years. Yes California has tried and failed previously, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper was not able to get a proposal to split California into six states onto the 2016 ballot.



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    Nor cal better reboot the Jefferson state in a hurry

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    I will be donating on a regular basis .
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    If any of you , seriously want to ever bring any greatness to America , support CalExit. Until then , no political greatness may ever be achieved .Those backward degenerates are holding everyone else back with communism , socialism , environmental terrorism , fascist gun stance etc . California is the anti america
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    be rid of 20 percent of the house democrats ( american communist party ) . Help bring Liberty to the children.
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    If you do not support CalExit , you hate children .
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    And these Cali nutjobs were always laughing at Texas for the same thing.

    Who'd have thunk it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    And these Cali nutjobs were always laughing at Texas for the same thing.

    Who'd have thunk it.
    Yar, all of a sudden secession is not for racists and rednecks but intellectual progressives and being anti war is cool again.


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    Trump should be proactive and just build the wall around them as well , we can then charge them tolls to enter the new free world .
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Trump should be proactive and just build the wall around them as well , we can then charge them tolls to enter the new free world .
    Oyarde has Done Something

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    I'm sure TYT will be along to give California the same treatment they gave Texas

    https://youtu.be/FDomPWLeGuI

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    be rid of 20 percent of the house democrats ( american communist party ) . Help bring Liberty to the children.


    California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).

    This list has them a bit higher but still near the bottom:

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    "Be afwaid. Be berry afwaid" Donald Trump.

    The optimists built this country and made it great- not the fearful. Fear can only destroy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).

    This list has them a bit higher but still near the bottom:

    Yeah , I do not care about the money , I want free of the dozens of bad Rep.'s you have .
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kords21 View Post
    I'm sure TYT will be along to give California the same treatment they gave Texas

    https://youtu.be/FDomPWLeGuI
    I'm not holding my breath.


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    Looking at number one and three, California does not strike me as a state friendly to retirement, versus those where a lot of SS money goes.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Being rid of California Rep.'s makes it possible to repeal tons of bad legislation . The rest of America would prosper in a free economy while they do as they wish. America would absolutely eventually be net positive by being rid of them.
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).
    Exactly.

    How grossly unfair, to have to pay in all that money into the fedgov and get pennies on the dollar back, the balance to be sent to redneck, backward, bible thumping states full of gun toting yahoos and racist deplorables.

    It is not treason to secede, it is self determination, the cornerstone of human rights, as laid out by the UN and international agreements.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination

    #CalExit Now

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Northbreather View Post
    Nor cal better reboot the Jefferson state in a hurry
    I support CalExit, they can have everything west of the San Andreas Fault.
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    Just think of the CalExit paradise . Special weapons and magazines made that hold two shells , called California Special.
    Even Bigfoot supports Glen Bradley .

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    The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.
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    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.
    And what are they (the fedgov) going to do?

    Start an armed conflict to force them to stay united, eternally bonded in a loathsome relationship with a bunch of racists and homophobes and climate terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And what are they (the fedgov) going to do?

    Start an armed conflict to force them to stay united, eternally bonded in a loathsome relationship with a bunch of racists and homophobes and climate terrorists?
    If California were a country, it would contain the 6th largest economy in the world. The answer is yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    If California were a country, it would contain the 6th largest economy in the world. The answer is yes.
    I don't think you savvy what I am up to here...

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    Down with DC Trumpist Imperialism:

    "National aspirations must be respected; people may now be dominated and governed only by their own consent. Self determination is not a mere phrase; it is an imperative principle of action. . . . " — Woodrow Wilson

    #CalExit Now


    Clearly, the vast majority of Californians do not consent to Trumpism.

    Self determination and secession is their human right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.
    Precisely. Maybe our Fuhrer threatening to spill their blood will get scare some more states into secession. I am in full support of #CalExit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Precisely. Maybe our Fuhrer threatening to spill their blood will get scare some more states into secession. I am in full support of #CalExit.
    ^^this^^ I would support it as their right to do so and to light a fire that others do the same.
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    So let me get this straight. Shervin was born Iran and at a very early age his family was allowed to immigrate to the US to escape Iranian oppression. His father was on an execution list for broadcasting information to help people escape Iran. In the US he has lived this wonderful life of freedom and extreme wealth that most Americans can only dream of. As a thank you this douchebag starts a secessionist movement.

    It almost makes me want to say deport that $#@! back to Iran but he became a US citizen and I do not believe in the death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    So let me get this straight. Shervin was born Iran and at a very early age his family was allowed to immigrate to the US to escape Iranian oppression. His father was on an execution list for broadcasting information to help people escape Iran. In the US he has lived this wonderful life of freedom and extreme wealth that most Americans can only dream of. As a thank you this douchebag starts a secessionist movement.

    It almost makes me want to say deport that $#@! back to Iran but he became a US citizen and I do not believe in the death penalty.
    And he's right.

    Self determination is a human right.

    #CalExit Now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And he's right.

    Self determination is a human right.

    #CalExit Now!
    I have said here before I support a right to self determination - state and regional succession. In this case however seeing who is behind it and the reasons I just call bull$#@!.

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