Dude his infrastructure plan as of now is centered on luring PRIVATE CAPITAL INVESTMENT. It's a mix right now. Do I LOVE it? NO. Is it monumentally better then prior/current policy. Holy $#@! yes.Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom
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shovel ready
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
Not only is the single payer concept wasteful, but we would be essentially stuck with it for life. Infrastructure is a one shot deal. We'd be ripping off the bandaid once.
And how does your President plan to coerce private capital into investing in this latest goobermint ponzi scheme?
No...it appears the infrastructure bank will simply be a place for private capital to deposit money into the bank for the purpose of deploying that capital for infrastructure.
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Gonna take a bulldozer to put a dent in the $#@! that's piling up around here lately. SMGDH
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And how does your President plan to coerce private capital into investing in this latest goobermint "infrastructure bank" ponzi scheme?
Huh? lol this is getting ridiculous.
If little money is parked in the bank, so be it. I'm a voluntarist. If a government initiates a project and opens the project to private investment and private money is not coerced, then the plan is exponentially better then a government spending plan that just prints/debtors it's way through the process.
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Billions...versus trillion. It takes 1,000 billions to get to 1 trillion.
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Yes, your magical thinking is extraordinarily ridiculous. Private businesses are just going to fork over trillions of dollars to an "Infrastructure Bank" because......
Pink unicorns?
I believe you have made your personal feelings on this ponzi scheme abundantly clear.If little money is parked in the bank, so be it.
lol!I'm a voluntarist.
The theft of taxpayer funds to incentivize corporations to join a socialist Works Project Administration Redux is not coercion? You may need to return your Voluntaryist Card to the club secretary.If a government initiates a project and opens the project to private investment and private money is not coerced,
Getting a bullet in the arm is exponentially better than getting a bullet in the chest. Nevertheless, you do not see me out shilling for getting shot in the arm.then the plan is exponentially better then a government spending plan that just prints/debtors it's way through the process.
So, ITT Donald Trump's "Chief Strategist" proposes that we enact the bastard child of the New Deal and the Great Society, a plan apparently now backed (or at least unopposed) by some alleged fiscal conservatives, alleged small government conservatives, former libertarians, and former voluntaryists.
This is why we keep saying stuff like...
Who is going to pay the interest on that private money to give investors their return on investment?
The fact that you somehow think that this is free is hilarious to me.
No, I just think there is more private money out there that WANTS to invest in America but has been legally blocked NOT TO by Fed.GOV.
Trump has pledged specific policies and ideas that REPEAL SO MUCH OF THE $#@! PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN RAILING ON FOR A LONG TIME (paleo/libertarian/small government/constitutionalists)
REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL has been the mantra, overall.
American companies have not been fleeing America because they don't want to be there...they have been fleeing bc FED.GOV has been chasing them away!!!
Most American companies can't wait to get back to America but they've been waiting for a President to repeal hostile laws and make America a positive business environment!!!
There are no unicorns. There are POLICIES, historical context and some basic economic reasoning that indicate that the real legal overhaul Trump has pledged turns America from the least competitive first world nation to the MOST competitive.
Do you not see or understand that his pledged tax reform and repealing of NAFTA and just about all the regulations enacted over the last few decades turns America into a desirable hub of economic activity?
Seriously man. He has pledged a 15% flat income and corporate tax rate. From there he has pledged further tax reductions from an already drastically lowered rate if you invest into American infrastructure.
The amount of money that has been chased away from America in the last 25 years has been decimating to America. The reality is most if not all of this money has been itching to get back into America should the tides of policy change.
Trump has PLEDGED a massive reversal in policy.
I'm not talking about pink unicorns. I'm talking about hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide that at the end of the day wants to be in America but has not been because FED.GOV has chased it away.
FED.GOV has literally attacked capital and forced it out of America.
Trump has PLEDGED.
Ok man got it? PLEDGED. It still needs to get done. The man hasn't even started his term. I'm not going ZOMG TRUMP IS THE SAVIOR.
But his pledged policy proposals CHANGE EVERYTHING.
Capital will begin immediately flowing back into America. Bit by bit. And steadily.
America will go from the worst tax rate in the 1st world to the best.
The economic implications of this are enormous.
Do you understand just how much PRIVATE capital will be able to be deployed throughout America as the result of his economic plan?
The answer is a lot.
And the answer is a far greater number then 1 trillion my friend.
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"Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park
"I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan,” Mr. Bannon said. “With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything.”
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
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It's gonna come from his stash.
Congratulations. You argued that I said this was free and I never said any such thing. Well done. Well done.
"Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park
Well, you kept acting like it's somehow not government or taxpayer money.
Would you care to explain to us what makes this strategy better for the taxpayer than selling Treasury bonds instead?
Okay, this is a spoof account. I get it. You got us, dude(ette?). Good one.
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Tax payers pay the interest. As it always has been. Is that state of affairs vanishing anytime soon? I'd like it to be so but that process will take time. Probably a lot of time. It seems overall I'm the one being realistic and pragmatic and attempting to be EFFECTIVE.
I also think that if Trump gets 8 years he will oversee a substantial amount of default issues in America, public and private. I think it's probable he will get a lot of that in a 4 year term. Lots of public debt in America is about to be defaulted and/or restructured in my view.
The man has dealt with strategic default in his life and has shown to be very savvy in defaulting when it is the intelligent thing to do, saving key assets and getting back on your feet quickly and efficiently.
"Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park
No, I've just paid attention to his policies as a whole.
"Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park
lol good luck with that.
...says the guy trying to make private companies spend a trillion dollars on an "Infrastructure Bank" while pretending like this is going to happen without anyone paying for it.American companies have not been fleeing America because they don't want to be there...they have been fleeing bc FED.GOV has been chasing them away!!!
Most American companies can't wait to get back to America but they've been waiting for a President to repeal hostile laws and make America a positive business environment!!!
There are no unicorns.
Because it's gonna be GREAT! Let me tell you. MAGA! THE BEST!There are POLICIES, historical context and some basic economic reasoning that indicate that the real legal overhaul Trump has pledged turns America from the least competitive first world nation to the MOST competitive.
Have you learned nothing in the last 8 years about how prosperity comes from getting government out of the way, not spawning New Deal 3.0Do you not see or understand that his pledged tax reform and repealing of NAFTA and just about all the regulations enacted over the last few decades turns America into a desirable hub of economic activity?
And who is going to pay for these "drastically lowered rates?"Seriously man. He has pledged a 15% flat income and corporate tax rate. From there he has pledged further tax reductions from an already drastically lowered rate if you invest into American infrastructure.
Trump has been on both sides of every issue. Therefore what you perceive in him is a function of what you want, or expect to hear.The amount of money that has been chased away from America in the last 25 years has been decimating to America. The reality is most if not all of this money has been itching to get back into America should the tides of policy change.
Trump has PLEDGED a massive reversal in policy.
You have, during the course of this post, consistently equivocated between regulation that has chases business away, and the creation of a new "Infrastructure Bank" ponzi scheme. You have done so in an attempt to curry favor with the viewpoint that hyper-regulation has chased business overseas (something every soul here knows innately) and then by waving some kind of magic wand you argue that this means the New Deal 3.0 isn't really so bad.I'm not talking about pink unicorns. I'm talking about hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide that at the end of the day wants to be in America but has not been because FED.GOV has chased it away.
This is an actual thing in logic. It is called "Magical Thinking."
Most American business has been forced overseas because of too many regulations.
I believe that Donald Trump will repeal regulations.
Therefore thePink UnicornInfrastructure Bank isn't really so bad.
Cognitive Dissonance is a witch, man.FED.GOV has literally attacked capital and forced it out of America.
Trump has PLEDGED.
Ok man got it? PLEDGED. It still needs to get done. The man hasn't even started his term. I'm not going ZOMG TRUMP IS THE SAVIOR.
But his pledged policy proposals CHANGE EVERYTHING.
That is such an awesome thing when you crank up spending too.Capital will begin immediately flowing back into America. Bit by bit. And steadily.
America will go from the worst tax rate in the 1st world to the best.
I know right?The economic implications of this are enormous.
Because, fairy dust.Do you understand just how much PRIVATE capital will be able to be deployed throughout America as the result of his economic plan?
And Trumpsus, taking the five quarters and two dollars, looking up to the Federal Reserve he blessed them, and broke them, and gave to the Cabinet to set before the corporations. They all ate and were filled, and then the Cabinet went to pick up what was left, and it was a Trillion US Dollars.The answer is a lot.
And the answer is a far greater number then 1 trillion my friend.
I thought it was the alt-right that had co-opted the Ron Paul Revolution. Turns out it was the FDR left. Who knew?
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Much of the alt right has always had national socialist leanings.
It's Trump money. He gonna get it from his stash.
You have run completely off the rails. Our military is weak? In relation to who? The cost of foreign military intervention will drop substantially? Maybe, that would be great.
Do you really think he's going to bring most of the troops home? I don't.If you knew that military spending would remain the same but that aggressive foreign policy would be reversed, most troops brought home and overseas spending replaced with spending at home, would you not view this as an enormous win for America (and the world)?
It's a nice thought, But I think the appointments made so far suggest our input means little or nothing, he sticks with the people who stuck with him. Some here did, most didn't.The Liberty movement (people around here for example) will play a key role in making sure a Trump presidency does more good then harm. I really think the man listens to those around him - including your elected representatives. I truly believe he wants to hear from YOU before he listens to a lobbyist.
I would like to think you're right but I'm just not seeing it. May I be proven wrong and look like a fool. A result I will gladly accept.Take advantage. I think America's direction over the next few years can (and will) be redirected to something far, far superior to the status quo of the last 70? years.
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