Bannon calls for "trillion-dollar" public works projects "rebuild everything"

[presence]

Mr. Bannon said in the interview that he expected Mr. Trump’s presidency would unsettle Republicans and Democrats alike with his aggressive and unconventional plans for rebuilding the country.


“I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan,” Mr. Bannon said. “With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything.”


Predicting a change that will outshine the Reagan revolution, he added: “Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us...tion.html?_r=0


muh federal work programs!
muh state union contracts!
muh roads bitches!

[jmdrake]

Predicting a change that will outshine the Reagan revolution, he added: “Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks.”

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[scm]

“With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything.”

just curious, what happens when rates DO go up (like they should).

[Chester Copperpot]

the only way this would be okay with me is if it were privately funded and thats highly doubtful..... trillion dollar spending is not what i wanted tbh trillion dollar cost cutting is what i wanted

[presence]

We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks.

Is the kind of thing you do when selling clothing... you offer your product in 10 different colors, in limited production... see what sells best then mass produce the most popular color.

Not so much the thing you really want to do with billion dollar tax payer funded projects.

[Origanalist]

Time for another head on Mt. Rushmore?

[presence]

Time for another head on Mt. Rushmore?

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trum...mount-rushmore

[Origanalist]

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trum...mount-rushmore

Oh dear Lord. I wonder if a RPF member started it?

[scm]

billion dollar tax payer funded projects.

TRILLION with TR, billions is so 2015

[Occam's Banana]

just curious, what happens when rates DO go up (like they should).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijJiISi9P6U

[euphemia]

I thought this was everyone's liberty guy?

[The Gold Standard]

I thought this was everyone's liberty guy?

Hey, what says 'liberty' more than being lifted off the ground by your ankles and having every last penny shaken free from your pockets?

[juleswin]

Isn't Rand calling for something similar?



Cutting in military spending but again spending billions to rebuild infrastructure.

[specsaregood]

the only way this would be okay with me is if it were privately funded and thats highly doubtful..... trillion dollar spending is not what i wanted tbh trillion dollar cost cutting is what i wanted

well at the same time given the choice of spending billions building roads and bridges overseas vs. spending it here at home; I'll take the latter. So lets see if he manages to cut that overseas spending first.

Or there are the infrastructure projects Randal has been promoting by giving tax breaks for bringing money back from overseas and using those new funds on infrastructure projects.

There are ways this could be made acceptable to all but the total anarchist. (ok, maybe not ok for trillions but that's most likely just hyperbole)

[The Gold Standard]

Isn't Rand calling for something similar?

Cutting in military spending but again spending money to rebuild infrastructure.

Ron talked about bringing all of the troops home and using that money here too. I wouldn't like it, but if that's what Trump was going to do, I could live with it. Of course, that's exactly what Trump is not going to do.

[scm]

I thought this was everyone's liberty guy?

They like the word "anti" establishment or "OUTSIDER" but they never use, Liberty. They know he has NOTHING to do with Liberty. If they used that word, people would figure out what it is.

[juleswin]

Ron talked about bringing all of the troops home and using that money here too. I wouldn't like it, but if that's what Trump was going to do, I could live with it. Of course, that's exactly what Trump is not going to do.

Yes, Ron's plan is better than Rand and Rand's better than Trump's but they are in the same vein of spending money to rebuilt national infrastructure. I was mainly addressing the people outraged by his plan on spending money on public works. Yea, govt would be the one to do it cos no sane business person would spend their hard earned money fixing govt property that they have no ownership off.

[AuH20]

I thought this was everyone's liberty guy?

He is. He's preventing a permanent globalist takeover of the country. We have three choices as I see it. Follow Bannon with his bold plan, explore secession or wait until it gets so bad that the Nazi solution starts to materialize. Choice #1 is far less bloodier than the other two.

People don't realize that Nazism was the reactionary response to highly aggressive Bolshevism that was gathering momentum in the East. I hope we never even contemplate that path. But it will come if the globalists continue to push.

[randomname]

so, national socialism?

[AuH20]

so, national socialism?

Not exactly.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...d_bridges.html

Under Trump's plan—at least as it's written (more on that in a minute)—the federal government would offer tax credits to private investors interested in funding large infrastructure projects, who would put down some of their own money up front, then borrow the rest on the private bond markets. They would eventually earn their profits on the back end from usage fees, such as highway and bridge tolls (if they built a highway or bridge) or higher water rates (if they fixed up some water mains). So instead of paying for their new roads at tax time, Americans would pay for them during their daily commute. And of course, all these private developers would earn a nice return at the end of the day.

[scm]

so, national socialism?

What else were you expecting from someone that recognizes MORE with DEMONkRATS.

[AuH20]

so, national socialism?

Like I said. No.

https://www.marketplace.org/2016/11/...ts-under-trump

[otherone]

I thought this was everyone's liberty guy?

[undergroundrr]

We're going to be a nation of government toll roads.

[Occam's Banana]

Bailouts are bad, mmm'kay? It doesn't matter if we're talking about shipyards or subprime mortgages ...

“I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan,” Mr. Bannon said. “With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything.”

Predicting a change that will outshine the Reagan revolution, he added: “Ship yards, iron works, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks."

Will these idiots never learn?
(I am giving Bannon the benefit of the doubt here by assuming ignorance on his part rather than corruption.)

Robbing Peter to pay Paul - so that Paul can pay Peter ...
But what of the rest of us who are not in a position to receive Paul's (i.e., Bannon's) largesse?
I guess we're just saps to be further mulcted and drained for the benefit of ship builders and ironmongers. Amirite?

And one can already hear the rustling wings of the corrupt chiselers and other buzzards as they prepare to launch themselves to circle overhead ...

Never mind any of that, though.

Entirely apart from the "robbing Peter" and "cronyist boondoggle" angles, what happens when the spigot is turned off and all those artificially "jacked up" areas have to stand on their own?

What kind of messianic demagoguery will we be in for then? Will we be offered yet another "revolutionary" plan, announced by yet another mouthpiece of yet another "Dear Leader" (who will employ the sublime puissance of government to "save" us)?

We roundly mocked Obama for his "you didn't build that" bull$#@!.

When it gets right down to it, how is this any different?

[mrsat_98]

Ron talked about bringing all of the troops home and using that money here too. I wouldn't like it, but if that's what Trump was going to do, I could live with it. Of course, that's exactly what Trump is not going to do.

Trump will suck less than Clinton, deal with it.

[AuH20]

Trump will suck less than Clinton, deal with it.

There is no pure liberty solution available to us. It's gone. The people have been corrupted. It's about being as deceptive as the left at this point. Tell them one thing, gain power and then employ the reforms while they sleep. I would use infrastructure enhancements as an entire gateway to other cost cutting and government reduction avenues.

[angelatc]

just curious, what happens when rates DO go up (like they should).

He's on record as saying he wants to crash the system. But if they issue bonds....those are fixed income instruments.

[angelatc]

When it gets right down to it, how is this any different?

Maybe they'll fix it up then flip it

[undergroundrr]

It's about being as deceptive as the left at this point.

Which inevitably leads to becoming your enemy.

I would use infrastructure enhancements as an entire gateway to other cost cutting and government reduction avenues.

Exhibit A - pure progressive policy wonkery.