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    Rand Paul defends top Trump aide Steve Bannon

    Rand Paul defends top Trump aide Steve Bannon

    Jon Ward
    November 15, 2016

    Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., jumped back into the national news cycle Tuesday — after several quiet months — by condemning some of President-elect Donald Trump’s potential picks for top jobs.

    But Paul also defended Trump’s most controversial hire so far: Steve Bannon.

    Paul told Yahoo News that criticism of Trump’s decision to make the former Breitbart News CEO his chief counselor was “sour grapes by people who lost.”

    “When people lose, they look for a scapegoat or they try to caricature people, and I think [Bannon is] a human being,” he said. “I think they’re making him a scapegoat and a caricature of something they want to be their enemy, and I don’t think any of it’s true.”

    “I’ve met him. I don’t believe him to be a racist. I don’t believe him to be someone who characterizes people on race, gender, religion, you name it,” Paul said. “I think he ought to be judged by how well he performs.”

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    And in fact, the more nuanced criticisms of Bannon have been that he is so animated by a driving desire to destroy the left that he is willing to resort to any measures to do so. In other words, he wants to use radical Jacobin means for conservative ends. That’s why he has reportedly called House Speaker Paul Ryan “the enemy” and has used Breitbart to assault the Republican establishment.

    Paul, however, said he was unbothered by that, and voiced some criticisms of Ryan himself.

    “Politics is a rough and tumble sport, and people who think, ‘Oh, it’s so uncivil,’ need to go back and read about the fights between Jefferson and Adams. Really, it’s always been rough and tumble,” Paul said. “And to tell you the truth, I’ve often said that I think Paul Ryan’s not part of the solution, in as far as the budget. The last two times we broke the sequester, they were at the behest of Paul Ryan. He’s voted for every debt ceiling increase in the last 20 years he’s been up here.”

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    Poor Rand. Rock and a hard place...

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    Rand should have an opportunity to influence Trump. With any luck Trump is serious about making some changes that we would welcome. If someone like Rand Paul shares his thoughts, some good might just come from it. I am hoping so anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Poor Rand. Rock and a hard place...

    I'd have probably defended Bannon too. People like Rand (and, well, me) cannot alienate the Tea partiers or the teocons and expect to stay in office. Bannon is full tilt teocon, so you kind of have to stand up for him or risk alienating your own base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Rand should have an opportunity to influence Trump. With any luck Trump is serious about making some changes that we would welcome. If someone like Rand Paul shares his thoughts, some good might just come from it. I am hoping so anyway.
    If we repeal the Johnson Amendment, and he does not do anything incredibly stupid to make things a lot worse, then I will look back on this administration as a net positive. Ending 501(c)3 will cover a lot of sins for me. I suspect however even if he does keep his word to end the Johnson Amendment, he will do a bunch of other, horrible things that more than makes up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    I'd have probably defended Bannon too. People like Rand (and, well, me) cannot alienate the Tea partiers or the teocons and expect to stay in office. Bannon is full tilt teocon, so you kind of have to stand up for him or risk alienating your own base.
    Wasn't condemning. Rand has always played a different game than his dad. Just putting things in perspective WRT how he chooses to deal with Trump. Seems Rand gave a one-two today. Condemned Bolton as SOS publicly then gave Bannon an endorsement. Trump team heads must be spinning.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Tom Woods likes Bannon and we know how fastidious Tom is. Bannon is the best thing to come out of the Trump phenomenon bar none.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Tom Woods likes Bannon and we know how fastidious Tom is. Bannon is the best thing to come out of the Trump phenomenon bar none.
    Finally something that may be truth. And that should scare the hell outta you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Poor Rand. Rock and a hard place...

    What are you talking about? You're completely misreading this entire thing, amazing. Rand is ok with Bannon and against Bolton, he's got it right and its a pretty simple answer since Bannon is pretty loud about being anti-neocon and anti-establishment. He is an ally in this war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    What are you talking about? You're completely misreading this entire thing, amazing. Rand is ok with Bannon and against Bolton, he's got it right and its a pretty simple answer since Bannon is pretty loud about being anti-neocon and anti-establishment. He is an ally in this war.
    Um, o.k.?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    If we repeal the Johnson Amendment, and he does not do anything incredibly stupid to make things a lot worse, then I will look back on this administration as a net positive. Ending 501(c)3 will cover a lot of sins for me. I suspect however even if he does keep his word to end the Johnson Amendment, he will do a bunch of other, horrible things that more than makes up for it.
    I have no doubt that there will be plenty for us to not like about actions that Trump takes, there is also plenty of room to do good.

    I am glad that we won't have Hillary Clinton stocking the Supreme Court.

    Protecting the 2nd Amendment is a net win to me.

    Mostly I am just glad that we are coloring outside of the lines. Who knows, maybe 4 years from now the Presidential Debates will include more than 2 parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I have no doubt that there will be plenty for us to not like about actions that Trump takes, there is also plenty of room to do good.

    I am glad that we won't have Hillary Clinton stocking the Supreme Court.

    Protecting the 2nd Amendment is a net win to me.

    Mostly I am just glad that we are coloring outside of the lines. Who knows, maybe 4 years from now the Presidential Debates will include more than 2 parties.
    Our ace in the hole in regard to the 2nd Amendment. Still, it would be hard to repeal something like the Hughes Amendment.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politi...ns-gun-rights/
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Isn't Bannon alt-right? I hope Rand Paul didn't knowingly support anyone associated with that movement.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    I think Rand did great in that video interview. Said Bolton sucks, Rudy would have to say he is sorry before he gives him time of day and for the media to stop calling Bannon names and give him a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    Isn't Bannon alt-right? I hope Rand Paul didn't knowingly support anyone associated with that movement.
    nope


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    Here we are as the two year mark of this lil ole story looms!



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