I know why this is happening and I saw this coming a decade ago.. Didn't know when it would happen, but I knew it would happen in my lifetime.
Leave the PC at the door. I'm interested in your thoughts...
All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
-Albert Camus
I think a lot of people looking at the raise in health insurance premiums for 2017 decided they could not afford Clinton. My best friend's premium are going from $1,100/mo to $2,000/mo. That transcends party loyalty or concerns about global warning.
I don't know. Shame that someone as corrupt as Clinton could still be so close to winning the election. Pretty scary actually.
But then I think about who she ran against and it starts to make sense.
They are trying to end White civilization, mostly "white men", and Trump just ended it.
The working man has his job shipped overseas or is replaced by illegal immigrants, but all the democrats were outraged about was whether transgenders could use the bathroom of their choice.
The only bone that was thrown to him was seen as a slap to the face: He was promised a living wage to work at McDonalds, when he feels like he was born to make cars.
So the honorable working class man became the uneducated angry redneck and the Democrats became the party of bureaucrats and academics.
...
People do not like Hillary Clinton. That's what this election was about. Her potential voters didn't care to turn out for her, and the people who hate her turned out to vote against her.
How many times did you have to hear, "well, I don't like Trump, but we can't have Hillary win!!"
This election was a mandate on Hillary Clinton. And it was sweet! (Don't misread the mandate)
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
The status quo.Let's be honest. What was this election really about?
People are sick of it for many varied reasons depending on their personal situation.
Because there are too many people 'everywhere'..Why is this happening everywhere?
That is the PC answer. In all reality, his supporters were highly energized by him.How many times did you have to hear, "well, I don't like Trump, but we can't have Hillary win!!"
To the OP:
He won because he made calculated appeals to a wide swath of people. He won because he knew he had to, and he did whatever was necessary, and said whatever was necessary to win. He did not win to save the white race. He won to save the United States, and the ideals of the United States. He realizes white people are a part of the US, but he does not define the US as white.
I have read this opinion on the interwebs but have yet to actually hear somebody voice it.Originally Posted by UWDude
Then again my social circle doesn't include many between the ages of 14 and 45..
Yes, but he didn't win because of his supporters. He won because people didn't show up for Hillary. He won because lots and lots of people turned out to vote against Hillary. If it was just his supporters, the result would have been far different. Obviously, as a supporter of his, you are misreading the mandate. The real mandate is that people did not want Hillary. (Hell, even Trump's campaign used that strategy for the last month!) (Even among his "supporters" the biggest cheer line - even bigger than "build the wall" - was "lock her up!")
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
This, and it's not a PC answer, it's the correct one. Yes, Trump had very energized supporters, but not nearly enough to carry him to victory. Many of his votes came from people like me: people who didn't like him at all, but who also didn't want Hillary in the White House. Had it been anyone other than Hillary, I would have voted third-party again.
I only know one person who was a die-hard Trump supporter - everyone else either refused to vote for either candidate or were willing to hold their nose and vote Trump to avoid what could effectively be eight more years of Obama.
Had it been Hillary vs. Literally Anyone Else, she would have lost just the same.
If it had been Trump vs. Literally Anyone Else, I honestly don't think he could have won. The race was close enough as it was, and if Bernie had actually gotten the nomination, he would have wiped the floor with Trump and we'd be heading towards a crazy, Socialist administration.
I wish I was more optimistic:
Trump is the strong leader who will use his entertaining charm to help us accept RFID chips, FEMA camps, and "droning" rebels right here at home. There is no place to hide YOU WILL get to be Great Again!
Edit: I intentionally posted before reading the thread.
The level of denial here is shocking. How often does Trump use the words individual freedom?
How many of you understand the USA just elected a brutal dictator?
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No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.
Testing the domestication of the american voter. Turns out the domestication process is not complete. Yet.
This was predicted four years ago with Rick Santorum's strong insurgent campaign against Romney. No money but almost whupped him in the Midwest including his home state of Michigan. Also Herman Cain's surges made any random business leader a contender, even if it was only Godfather's Pizza! Trump saw this and ran with the ball.
lol
This is the culmination of the ignorance of Americans.
The fact that most did not know or understand the questionable background of either candidate; do not understand our foreign policy or have any idea of real history; do not understand the difference between a democracy and a republic; have no knowledge of sound money; do not have a glimmer of what real liberty is- shows how successful public "education" has really been.
There is no spoon.
This is exactly right. In a strange way, I suppose we can thank God that Hillary Clinton's corruption led to the defeat of Bernie Sanders.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
This election's bottom line was whether or not the Rule of Law was worth preserving.
Sadly most of the infants left here couldn't find their way to the correct answer.
Which validated so many criticisms of libertarians as being unserious and not interested in anything beyond some favorite subject such as smoking weed, gay marriage, or, for too many here, open borders.
And even now some people here can't figure out that it would have been a really really bad idea to put the worst criminal any political system has ever produced into the Oval Office... the brainwashing level is absolutely extraordinary, even more so because there's not a damn person here with an excuse not to know better.
If you were hoping that people would come in and say that this is a white race thing, only white nationalists and SJWs believe that.
The funny thing is some white nationalists and SJWS didn't fall for the establishments divide conquer tactics. They just hijacked a lot of them by creating a populist anti intellectual movement. The SJW/democrats are re inforcing their narratives and creating mountains out of molehills. What is this big distraction away from government and government policy? Could our debt finally be at a breaking point?
The people that helped Trump across the finish line were Obama voters in 2012.
PA, WI, MI, and historically blue counties as well as recent blue counties in various states.
The craziest supporters were his base but he couldn't win with just the base.
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Get ready for 2020 there is going to be a big socialist on the Democrat ticket. Its the natural response to Drumpf getting elected. It will continue to keep stretching in each direction till it rips in half.
As for what happened in the election, I agree it was really saying I AM NO F%#@% way with with Her rather than I am with him. The democrats finally chose their SJW, climate agenda, PC world over the blue collar worker that used to be their backbone. Now they have no backbone and really no message to the average working person.
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More Government = Less Freedom
Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water
I think it's hillarious that both sides think he's going to deport all the Mexicans and put gay people in camps. He's walked back big time the deportation talk; only criminal illegals will be deported now, which is the same position as the democrats. He's also the most "pro-gay" president; what other president has literally held up the LGBQTETC. flag?
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If Trump $#@!s up, which there is a pretty high chance, socialist/SJW will come out in droves to make sure they will win this time lol.
That's what this election was about. In 2020, the socialist will crush Trump, taking at least 40 states. All of these riots are meant to energize the young scum. Trump's big government solutions to the recession will fail, and free markets will get the blame. If Trump doesn't put forward any gun control laws, these four years are probably the last chance to "legally" buy your guns and ammo.
^this
Both the Hillary Hate, and the Trump Love was grossly underestimated, and the cheating by the Democrats was grossly under-reported.
It was about anger. Then it was about being told rather condescendingly by leftist elitists and establishmentarians, that anger is not a characteristic that wins elections.
And then it was about the angry people beating them in those elections, and watching them cry.
-signed,
one of the "angry white males"
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-11-2016 at 01:11 PM.
This is getting silly.T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Or the Democrats can try a safe establishment candidate again,"centerist" that draws on a "broad coalition" of anti-Trump democrats and Republicans, to try and assure victory.
I mean, after all, you are talking the 2020 elections, when Trump is still months away from inauguration. I don't think your crystal ball is that good.
I do not think the democrats will have viable challengers in the future. Hillary won the popular vote. It's only a matter of time before they do away with the electoral college and we end up with the directly-elected national democratic state that they want, and the name of the game will then be, "California wins."
This election basically showed that we've reached the tipping point. There are now officially enough people on the left who will vote for even the sh1ttiest candidate ever in the history of the US elections and still be able to outnumber the opposition, and these people want free stuff, your stuff, and they have the numbers to take it.
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-11-2016 at 01:17 PM.
This is getting silly.T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
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