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    Exclamation After Donald Trump victory, Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union

    After Donald Trump victory, Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union

    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/i...regonians.html

    Two days after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, two Portlanders have submitted a petition for a 2018 ballot initiative to have Oregon secede from the United States.

    On Thursday morning, Jennifer Rollins, a lawyer, and Christian Trejbal, a writer, filed the Oregon Secession Act.

    "Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.

    Those values? "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness," Trejbal said, "plus equality."

    "Obviously," he said, the ballot proposal "came about partially in response to the election results on Tuesday."

    "But," he added, "it's been developing over time."


    Tuesday's election has renewed interest in Cascadia and some are calling for Oregon and California to leave the United States.

    Trejbal said that he and Rollins are hoping to start a serious conversation in Oregon about what it would mean to peacefully leave the United States. They opted for 2018 to give Oregonians some time to really think about what seceding from the union would mean.

    Some Californians have already expressed interest in seceding and the language of the Oregon proposal includes the option to bring other states into a "Constitutional Convention."

    Trejbal said that joining forces with other states like Washington, California and Nevada is "a viable way to go forward."

    These states, he said, "could all get together and form a nation that uphold the values that we share."

    To start the ballot title drafting process, the Oregon Secession Act must receive 1,000 signatures. Trejbal said he and Rollins would be at Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland on Thursday night to begin the process of getting those signatures.

    You can read the Oregon Secession Act here.

    -- Lizzy Acker

    503-221-8052
    lacker@oregonian.com, @Lizzzyacker
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    All of a sudden liberals believe in secession? Funny how being on the losing side will change your mind.

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    Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    After Donald Trump victory, Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union

    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/i...regonians.html

    Two days after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, two Portlanders have submitted a petition for a 2018 ballot initiative to have Oregon secede from the United States.

    On Thursday morning, Jennifer Rollins, a lawyer, and Christian Trejbal, a writer, filed the Oregon Secession Act.

    "Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.

    Those values? "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness," Trejbal said, "plus equality."

    "Obviously," he said, the ballot proposal "came about partially in response to the election results on Tuesday."

    "But," he added, "it's been developing over time."


    Tuesday's election has renewed interest in Cascadia and some are calling for Oregon and California to leave the United States.

    Trejbal said that he and Rollins are hoping to start a serious conversation in Oregon about what it would mean to peacefully leave the United States. They opted for 2018 to give Oregonians some time to really think about what seceding from the union would mean.

    Some Californians have already expressed interest in seceding and the language of the Oregon proposal includes the option to bring other states into a "Constitutional Convention."

    Trejbal said that joining forces with other states like Washington, California and Nevada is "a viable way to go forward."

    These states, he said, "could all get together and form a nation that uphold the values that we share."

    To start the ballot title drafting process, the Oregon Secession Act must receive 1,000 signatures. Trejbal said he and Rollins would be at Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland on Thursday night to begin the process of getting those signatures.

    You can read the Oregon Secession Act here.

    -- Lizzy Acker

    503-221-8052
    lacker@oregonian.com, @Lizzzyacker
    I demand restitution from Oregon . I never held the values they did .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.
    If he gets rid of California and Oregon I might .LOL
    Do something Danke

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    When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?
    Dems cannot part with Ill , it is the farm team for the big leagues .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?
    They just need encouragement from others going first. And an assurance that the federal government won't slaughter them.

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    When is Ill-Annoy and New Jersey and New York going to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    They just need encouragement from others going first. And an assurance that the federal government won't slaughter them.
    I think we can manage that.

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    "Oregonian values are no longer the values held by the rest of the United States," Trejbal said over the phone Thursday.
    Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

    Anybody care to take a stab at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Bye. I'll say this, if Trump can manage to dissolve the union, I may consider voting for him in 2020.
    Oh hell yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

    Anybody care to take a stab at it.
    Same as every other State. Progressive $#@!stains in the cities and enclaves outside and brainwashed boobus in the burbs. Outside of that I know some good people in Oregon but they live in the sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

    Anybody care to take a stab at it.
    Burning things that don't belong to you?

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    This is $#@!ing great. My dreams are coming true, let's keep the ball rolling! I need to find out how to get this started for Washington.



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    51.9% voted Clinton.

    I could see Republicans winning Senate & gub races there with say a pro-abort, closed-borders platform in the future.

    GOAT celebrity Chael Sonnen is a Trump supporter.
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    Like Cali, it would not look like the state they know today. Most of Oregon is rural farm, cattle country and they love their guns and bibles.
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    Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

    I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

    I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.
    Well, I'm actually in Washington. Close though.

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    This is awesome, and the libertarians aren't even doing any of the work to make this happen.

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    They never do whatever they said.

    Lets Make America Small
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Pete and Orig are two of our most prominent Oregonians.

    I reckon Pete might move back to the UP.
    No plans,, it's nice here.
    That story is from Portland.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This is $#@!ing great. My dreams are coming true, let's keep the ball rolling! I need to find out how to get this started for Washington.
    Sorry , we are keeping your progressives for Ocean access because we are letting Cal - Or out .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Not sure what "Orgeonian values" are although I can guess.

    Anybody care to take a stab at it.
    Trees, naked bicycle rides, donuts shaped like dicks and free $#@!.
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Well, I'm actually in Washington. Close though.
    Same $#@!, just wetter.
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    This is awesome, and the libertarians aren't even doing any of the work to make this happen.
    $#@!ing right? Lol.
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Same $#@!, just wetter.
    Not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Socialists really really like coastlines. I speculate that the rhythmic action of the waves calms them down.
    I just thought it was so they could plead for help that others pay for when it gets too wet.
    Do something Danke

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