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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Again, get back to me when the establishment has been smashed ...
    TPP is dead
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...labor-leaders/

    Donald Trump’s triumph in the presidential race cemented its fate.
    He's not even president yet.
    establishment knows Trump is not even messing around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    TPP is dead
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...labor-leaders/

    He's not even president yet.
    establishment knows Trump is not even messing around.
    Wow! A moribund trade deal that was going nowhere is ... going nowhere ...

    Amazing!

    (I mean, come on! Even Hillary turned against it a couple of months ago.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Wow! A moribund trade deal that was going nowhere is ... going nowhere ...

    Amazing!

    (I mean, come on! Even Hillary turned against it a couple of months ago.)
    Psssst... Canada and Mexico just caved. They are ready to renegotiate NAFTA:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...egotiate-NAFTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Wow! A moribund trade deal that was going nowhere is ... going nowhere ...

    Amazing!

    (I mean, come on! Even Hillary turned against it a couple of months ago.)
    Even Chris Matthews doesn't believe that.

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    Oh look it's a piece of corporate propaganda pushed by one of the very media orgs that was exposed as directly coordinating with the Clinton campaign, being pushed unironically as a scare piece by one of the usual well-poisoning suspects.

    @Brian4Liberty @Bryan

    Now that the campaign is over can these elements finally be purged to restore the original libertarian nature of the site?

    It's completely mind-blowing that I can go over to a Sanders site and they see right through this stuff, but here it gets taken seriously like everyone was suddenly born yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Even Chris Matthews doesn't believe that.
    I still don't. Is this 'no, really, it's dead' or 'oh we should renegotiate and get a better deal' because the second just sounds like sprinkle some pixie dust on it, change happy to glad, and call it good.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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    I just can't stand liars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Of all the pieces from this author this campaign season, I like this one the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What is the liberty movement doing?
    One, we're not swallowing corporate propaganda whole like idiots.

    Two, we've built bridges to both the Trump movement and the Sanders movement, and now have influence in both camps.

    Would have been nice if you folks here could have been joining us in making progress for liberty during this campaign season instead of what you all actually did.

    When you're ready to leave the kiddie table, go back through the endless amount of clear instruction I gave to you guys on how to get your act together, and take it seriously this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    One, we're not swallowing corporate propaganda whole like idiots.

    Two, we've built bridges to both the Trump movement and the Sanders movement, and now have influence in both camps.

    Would have been nice if you folks here could have been joining us in making progress for liberty during this campaign season instead of what you all actually did.

    When you're ready to leave the kiddie table, go back through the endless amount of clear instruction I gave to you guys on how to get your act together, and take it seriously this time.
    Is infowars considered corporate propaganda?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    This thread is a classic example of why Ron Paul could never get any traction in 2012, with supporters like some of the arm chair revolutionaries and whining grandma types populating this thread and dancing to the Zippy/CPUd shuffle, Paul didn't need any enemies to destroy his revolution. All it takes is an article from either Politico or some NBC affiliate (both enemies of the Liberty Movement that were just as bad to us as the Neo-cons) and everyone starts prepping for doomsday or measuring genitalia to see who's "liberty" is bigger.

    CPUd and Zippy are now officially on my ignore list, this incessant flooding of pointless MSM noise is getting so annoyingly boring that it's becoming tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Is infowars considered corporate propaganda?
    Not really. He doesn't have any notable sponsors or advertisers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hells_unicorn View Post
    This thread is a classic example of why Ron Paul could never get any traction in 2012, with supporters like some of the arm chair revolutionaries and whining grandma types populating this thread and dancing to the Zippy/CPUd shuffle, Paul didn't need any enemies to destroy his revolution. All it takes is an article from either Politico or some NBC affiliate (both enemies of the Liberty Movement that were just as bad to us as the Neo-cons) and everyone starts prepping for doomsday or measuring genitalia to see who's "liberty" is bigger.

    CPUd and Zippy are now officially on my ignore list, this incessant flooding of pointless MSM noise is getting so annoyingly boring that it's becoming tragic.
    Good to see you're finally taking my advice.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Answer is probably no but gonna throw this question out there just in case there are any constitutional loopholes.

    For US to build strong anti-ISIS strategy, can a foreign leader without US birther certificate be made part of new the cabinet, real or honorary?


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    It is looking more and more it will just be a generic republican administration. Enhanced with an extra degree of crazy stupid.



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    Trump has to be aware of this? No?

    http://gotnews.com/flashback-reince-...-race-baiting/

    Donald Trump endorsed Chris McDaniel ahead of the runoff, citing his intelligence, and desire to change things.

    Now President-elect Trump had even cheered McDaniel on in the immediate aftermath of the initial election on June 3, saying a McDaniel win was great news, and a big win for the Tea Party.

    Now, after Reince and the Barbours weaseled their way into the Trump campaign, it appears Reince may be on the short list to work as Trump’s Chief of Staff.

    Reince Priebus is a man who is wholly owned by the Barbour Klan. He is obviously one hundred percent willing to destroy good conservative Republicans if it means he and his ilk keep power.

    He should be nowhere near the White House.

    Stay tuned for more.

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    Transition team org:

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I thought he was going to be against insiders? (though noting that the list is speculation since the Trump people have not made any lists available yet).


    ...i can't wait...trump will soon have to actually 'play a card'...methinks many deuces/[douches] and jokers will be revealed...(and no, trump idiots, deuces and/or jokers are not wild) ..it will be hillaryous when trump clearly reveals his small soft hand to his 'alpha -male/female' goddamned fool republican sycophants... ...

    ...remember, all you decent thinkers here, you are dealing with a bunch of twisted radio-republicans to whom stinking ronald reagan is an icon...they are not playing with a full deck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Bannon and Priebus are the leading names. Bannon would be the shot heard round the world.


    ...wasn't bannon an ideological brother of the freakish, zionist, bank$ter puppet [and goddamned fool] farah palin?....anyone not a goddamned fool has the republican apparatchik, bannon, sniffed out...and it stinks like hell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Jeb Hensarling and Carl Icahn are on the list for Treasury Secretary. Carl Icahn is a stingy jewish man. Perfect for the position.


    ...another couple of goddamned bank$ter hanger$-on who won't utter a peep or do anything to blow the whi$tle on the fraud of the age$...get real, man..i can see supporting trump as a shiv to ?your goddamned republican party...but as some honest savior?...you sound like a munchkin!...

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    Gary North's take: http://www.garynorth.com/public/15883.cfm

    "There are two cabinet positions that really matter in every presidential administration. ... First, there is the Secretary of State. Second, there is the Secretary of the Treasury. The other cabinet positions of importance are the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, which determines who is going to get prosecuted, and the Department of Homeland Security, which is the real enforcement arm of the government. Watch who gets appointed to these five positions. That will tell you the direction of the Trump administration. ...

    Donald Trump never had a list of men and women who are independent of the existing power base that runs this country. He would be a real threat to the powers that be if he had such a list. Agents of the powers that be are now rushing into the vacuum. ...

    Let me give you examples of what would constitute a revolution. If his choice for Secretary of State were Angelo Codevilla, I would be impressed. If his choice for Secretary of the Treasury were Paul Craig Roberts, I would conclude that he really has an economic agenda. If his choice for the Department of Defense were William Lind, I would assume that Trump knows what he is doing. If his choice for the Department of Homeland Security were Sibel Edmunds, I might have some hope. As for the Department of Justice, Andrew Napolitano is the obvious choice. ...

    Here is the problem that Trump now faces. He doesn't know anything about the federal government. ... He is surrounded by people like Newt Gingrich (CFR) and Rudy Giuliani. ... [Trump] is a sitting duck."
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Gary North's take: http://www.garynorth.com/public/15883.cfm

    "There are two cabinet positions that really matter in every presidential administration. ... First, there is the Secretary of State. Second, there is the Secretary of the Treasury. The other cabinet positions of importance are the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, which determines who is going to get prosecuted, and the Department of Homeland Security, which is the real enforcement arm of the government. Watch who gets appointed to these five positions. That will tell you the direction of the Trump administration. ...

    Donald Trump never had a list of men and women who are independent of the existing power base that runs this country. He would be a real threat to the powers that be if he had such a list. Agents of the powers that be are now rushing into the vacuum. ...

    Let me give you examples of what would constitute a revolution. If his choice for Secretary of State were Angelo Codevilla, I would be impressed. If his choice for Secretary of the Treasury were Paul Craig Roberts, I would conclude that he really has an economic agenda. If his choice for the Department of Defense were William Lind, I would assume that Trump knows what he is doing. If his choice for the Department of Homeland Security were Sibel Edmunds, I might have some hope. As for the Department of Justice, Andrew Napolitano is the obvious choice. ...

    Here is the problem that Trump now faces. He doesn't know anything about the federal government. ... He is surrounded by people like Newt Gingrich (CFR) and Rudy Giuliani. ... [Trump] is a sitting duck."
    Why is the Lew Rockwell crowd acting like Trump is this blank slate in the sewer of Washington? No, Trump is a committed SOCIALIST. He has expressed his socialist ideas very clearly.

    Trump's cabinet is going to reflect his own interventionist and socialistic beliefs.

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    Trump Campaigned Against Lobbyists, but Now They’re on His Transition Team


    WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump, who campaigned against the corrupt power of special interests, is filling his transition team with some of the very sort of people who he has complained have too much clout in Washington: corporate consultants and lobbyists.

    Jeffrey Eisenach, a consultant who has worked for years on behalf of Verizon and other telecommunications clients, is the head of the team that is helping to pick staff members at the Federal Communications Commission.

    Michael Catanzaro, a lobbyist whose clients include Devon Energy and Encana Oil and Gas, holds the “energy independence” portfolio.

    Michael Torrey, a lobbyist who runs a firm that has earned millions of dollars helping food industry players such as the American Beverage Association and the dairy giant Dean Foods, is helping set up the new team at the Department of Agriculture.

    Mr. Trump was swept to power in large part by white working-class voters who responded to his vow to restore the voices of forgotten people, ones drowned out by big business and Wall Street. But in his transition to power, some of the most prominent voices will be those of advisers who come from the same industries for which they are being asked to help set the regulatory groundwork.

    The president-elect’s spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, declined a request for comment, as did nearly a dozen corporate executives, consultants and lobbyists serving on his transition team, which was outlined in a list distributed widely in Washington on Thursday.

    A number of the people on that list are well-established experts with no clear interest in helping private-sector clients. But to critics of Mr. Trump — both Democrats and Republicans — the inclusion of advisers with industry ties is a first sign that he may not follow through on all of his promises.

    “This whole idea that he was an outsider and going to destroy the political establishment and drain the swamp were the lines of a con man, and guess what — he is being exposed as just that,” said Peter Wehner, who served in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush before becoming a speechwriter for George W. Bush. “He is failing the first test, and he should be held accountable for it.”

    Transition teams help new presidents pick the new cabinet, as well as up to 4,000 political appointees who will take over top posts in agencies across the government. President Obama, after he was first elected, instituted rules that prohibited individuals who had served as registered lobbyists in the prior year from serving as transition advisers in the areas in which they represented private clients. They were also prohibited, after the administration took power, from lobbying in the parts of the government they helped set up.

    “They wanted to make sure that people were not putting their thumb on the scale, or even the perception of that,” said Martha Joynt Kumar, the director of a nonprofit group called the White House Transition Project, which has studied two decades of presidential transitions.

    Among the advisers assisting Mr. Trump who have no clear private-sector ties are Brian Johnson, a top lawyer for the House Financial Services Committee, who is helping to pick top staff members for the federal government’s many financial services agencies.

    Edwin Meese III, who served as attorney general under Mr. Reagan and is now associated with the Heritage Foundation, the conservative think tank, is helping oversee management and budget issues, along with Kay Coles James, a Bush administration official who now runs an institute that trains future African-American leaders.

    Former Representative Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan, who served as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and was once a special agent in the F.B.I., is overseeing issues related to national security, including the intelligence agencies and the Department of Homeland Security.

    ...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us...tion-team.html
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    New York Times
    Who cares. Post to somewhere more reputable, like Infowars. Yes, I am serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post


    ...another couple of goddamned bank$ter hanger$-on who won't utter a peep or do anything to blow the whi$tle on the fraud of the age$...get real, man..i can see supporting trump as a shiv to ?your goddamned republican party...but as some honest savior?...you sound like a munchkin!...

    We're off to see the wizard, The Wonderful Wizard of OzWe hear he is a whiz of a wiz, if ever a wiz there was
    If ever, oh ever a wiz there was, The Wizard of Oz is one because
    Because, because, because, because, because
    Because of the wonderful things he does
    We're off to see the wizard,
    The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

    I'll leave this right here.




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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Who cares. Post to somewhere more reputable, like Infowars. Yes, I am serious.
    I'm sure quite a few people care. The gators are being fed, and folks who would rather that not happen are doing what they can to mitigate .
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'm sure quite a few people care. The gators are being fed, and folks who would rather that not happen are doing what they can to mitigate .
    Once again, quoting biased media. Parroting their agenda. Like you have been doing the whole time. It has been proven how unreliable they are. It has been proven how unreliable you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Once again, quoting biased media. Parroting their agenda. Like you have been doing the whole time. It has been proven how unreliable they are. It has been proven how unreliable you are.
    Is it your position that the transition team is not full of lobbyists and DC insiders?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Is it your position that the transition team is not full of lobbyists and DC insiders?
    It is my position, that I will not take the word of the New York Times on anything. I will also not trust their analysis or characterization of anybody. They have been thoroughly discredited, as have all other nightly news networks. Anything they do has an agenda. Every thing they do is outright lies or half truths.

    I did not read the article, as I have no more time or energy to waste on the infuriating barrage of lies and half-truths that are put forth by your propaganda outlets. I am sure every attempt was made with every character to make them seem as establishment as possible, with the underlying tone Trump is going to be just another establishment president. I simply have no more patience for the likes of you. You have been wrong, over and over and over and over again. The media and polls you cited have been wrong over and over and over and over again. Your agenda is not the truth, but FUD.

    How can you even stand to show your stupid face around here after having had your confident assertions thrashed so soundly by the likes of me? You said all sorts of stupid things about Trump being a Hillary plant, about Hillary is going to win. Everything you claimed, was wrong. And yet, you still go around, posting a bunch of tripe from the rags and pundits who were proven over and over and over and over again to be liars and deceivers.

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