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    Trump Outperformed Romney in all Ethnicities

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...xit-polls.html

    42% of women, Romney had 43%
    Did 8 points better with Latinos than Romney (29% to 21%)
    Did 7 points better than Romney with blacks (8% to 1%)
    Did 11 points better with Asians than Romney (29% to 18%)

    Almost 1/3 Latinos voted Trump.



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    Hillary's deplorables comment is Romney's 47% moment,

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    Those numbers sound wrong for Romney. Romney must have got 5% black because Johnson got 1% that year.
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    The numbers might be totally different had Trump been the nominee against Obama in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandallFan View Post
    Those numbers sound wrong for Romney. Romney must have got 5% black because Johnson got 1% that year.
    Yeah, he got 6% http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls...ps-voted-2012/

    But isn't Trump's percentages in the first post based on the exit polls that were off with 5%? He must have done better than in the NYT-link.

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    By the Cornell figures, there was little change in minorities for Romney vs Trump. Well within margin of errors. Trump did it with rural voters.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-09-2016 at 05:49 PM.

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    The 29% latino vote for Trump entirely undoes the original narrative that the GOP "had to" stay away from immigration, and pander to the group in order to be viable in the Presidential election. Trump showed the issue was overrated, or that the latino issue was only a factor in a few battleground states where they have a presence. The latter view has been proven correct based on the election results.
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    Just imagine how well he'll do with Latinos after he's deported the illegals who voted 99% against him.



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    I'm pretty sure Romney won around 30% of Hispanics.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Romney had 27%- Trump 29% on the Hispanic vote. Not much difference.

    Asians- 26% to 29%.

    Blacks- 6% to 8%.

    Women- Romney won them with 44% vs 42% for Trump.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-09-2016 at 07:15 PM.

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    There's also no way that Romney got less than 20% of the Asian vote.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Romney had 27%- Trump 29% on the Hispanic vote. Not much difference.

    Asians- 26% to 29%.

    Blacks- 6% to 8%.
    The fact that Trump got any minority votes at all proves you guys wrong.

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    But when you look at "people" and not percentages, Trump underperformed Romney in nearly all groups.

    It is only because Clinton did so poorly that it makes it seem like Trump outperformed. He did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    But when you look at "people" and not percentages, Trump underperformed Romney in nearly all groups.

    It is only because Clinton did so poorly that it makes it seem like Trump outperformed. He did not.
    Mitt Romney had more votes than either Trump or Clinton (at just under 61 million- he would have won by a million votes this time- Clinton was just below 60 million)- and still lost by 5 million votes. That means six million fewer people voted.

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    Trump got less total votes than Hillary, Romney, and McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    By the Cornell figures, there was little change in minorities for Romney vs Trump. Well within margin of errors. Trump did it with rural voters.
    Truth.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Mitt Romney had more votes than either Trump or Clinton (at just under 61 million- he would have won by a million votes this time- Clinton was just below 60 million)- and still lost by 5 million votes. That means six million fewer people voted.
    Agreed. Trump lucked in. Either that or Comey's confusing
    top cop C mlakewalk galvanized Newt Gingrich's fanbase...

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    Romney was always a lackluster candidate. I think if they ran him again he would have lost again.

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    If polls were mostly proven wrong, why do they rely on the exit polls from such a close election to figure out why Trump won. Weird.
    But definitely a lot of people don't want a woman President. A man wearing a Hillary shirt or holding a Hillary sign looks funny.

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    Polls were actually not that far off. They were within a point or two on the national polling. It is in the Electoral College they were wrong- where those votes were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Polls were actually not that far off. They were within a point or two on the national polling. It is in the Electoral College they were wrong- where those votes were.
    Still carrying water for the liberal establishment I see. The only one within a point or two was the much maligned IBD. Take out the "outlier" LA Times and IBD polls, and the average for the last two days was Clinton +4.25. CNN is projecting that it will be Trump winning the popular vote. You don't even want to talk about the state polls.

    Bloomberg 11/4 - 11/6 799 LV 3.5 46 43 Clinton +3
    IBD/TIPP Tracking 11/4 - 11/7 1107 LV 3.1 43 42 Clinton +1
    Economist/YouGov 11/4 - 11/7 3669 LV -- 49 45 Clinton +4
    LA Times/USC Tracking 11/1 - 11/7 2935 LV 4.5 44 47 Trump +3
    ABC/Wash Post Tracking 11/3 - 11/6 2220 LV 2.5 49 46 Clinton +3
    FOX News 11/3 - 11/6 1295 LV 2.5 48 44 Clinton +4
    Monmouth 11/3 - 11/6 748 LV 3.6 50 44 Clinton +6
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 11/3 - 11/5 1282 LV 2.7 48 43 Clinton +5
    CBS News 11/2 - 11/6 1426 LV 3.0 47 43 Clinton +4
    Reuters/Ipsos 11/2 - 11/6 2196 LV 2.3 44 39 Clinton +5
    Last edited by misterx; 11-10-2016 at 01:30 PM.

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    Yes, withing the margins of error most of those are within a couple points of Clinton by 1.5% in the popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes, withing the margins of error most of those are within a couple points of Clinton by 1.5% in the popular vote.
    The whole point of taking a polling average is so that it smooths out the errors. That +4.25 is supposed to be almost exactly what the real vote was. Why were they all off by more than the margin of error towards Clinton? If it was moe, then half of them should've been Trump +4 while the other half was Clinton +4. Just admit that the polls were wrong. Even the media has admitted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southron View Post
    Romney was always a lackluster candidate. I think if they ran him again he would have lost again.
    low energy. sad!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Mitt Romney had more votes than either Trump or Clinton (at just under 61 million- he would have won by a million votes this time- Clinton was just below 60 million)- and still lost by 5 million votes. That means six million fewer people voted.
    Not to mention that there are more people than there were four years ago.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Mitt Romney had less votes in battleground states. This was solely a battleground election. Mitt Romney also didn't have his own party working against him. Don't kid yourselves, Trump beat Romney in nearly every demographic. If more people voted it wouldn't have changed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Mitt Romney had less votes in battleground states. This was solely a battleground election. Mitt Romney also didn't have his own party working against him. Don't kid yourselves, Trump beat Romney in nearly every demographic.
    Obama wasn't under FBI investigation.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    Obama wasn't under FBI investigation.
    Neither was Hillary as far as the people knew.

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    You guys swore up and down that you knew there was no way Trump could beat Hillary. How do you think you have any credibility to say that Mitt Romney would've done better. You guys were wrong about EVERYTHING.

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