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    Doraville (Atlanta suburb) homeowners receiving probation for code violations

    DORAVILLE, Ga. -- Homeowners in Doraville are on notice.

    If they commit even a minor infraction of city codes on private property, they are facing 6 months on probation, and, potentially, jail time.

    City leaders say strict code enforcement protects safety and property values.

    But some residents say the city is going too far.

    Take the recent case of Hilda Brucker.

    To this day, Brucker doesn't know who complained to the city about her and her home, in the bucolic Northwoods subdivision of Doraville, where she has lived for 26 years.

    Suddenly, someone doesn't like Hilda Brucker's driveway, and complained to Doraville Code Enforcement.

    "My driveway is 60 years old. It's not very pretty. It's very functional," Brucker said.

    Her sentence -- a fine of $100. And, "They gave me a six month probated jail sentence, so I now have a probation officer [because of] my driveway cracks."

    Brucker said she never received the warning from the city, and the citation, that the city said were delivered to her.

    She said she received a phone call in October, telling her to report to Doraville Municipal Court for failure to appear, and, she said, even then no one showed her a citation.

    She thinks six months on probation is too harsh a penalty for a relatively minor code infraction.

    She is finding out that she is not the only one protesting Doraville Code Enforcement.

    Someone recently complained about Tim Snyder's Virginia creeper, which, in the 16 years he has lived in his home, has grown every summer on his front porch support posts.

    Snyder, who also lives in Northwoods, said Code Enforcement ordered him to take down the vine, immediately, or else.

    He said he had to prove to Code Enforcement that his vine is actually not in violation of Doraville's codes.

    Then Snyder started taking photos of major code violations in Doraville -- such as abandoned, boarded up, fire-damaged houses, and businesses with piles of trash stacked high outside the buildings.

    He began asking why the city isn't enforcing those violations -- including broken, dangerous city sidewalks, half-hidden under a layer of fallen, uncleared leaves; and dilapidated city-owned properties.

    One of those city-owned properties is the unsightly, former house at the corner of New Peachtree Rd. and Park Ave. The siding is falling off, the paint is peeling badly and the structure is uninhabitable. And it is right across the street from the Doraville Municipal Courthouse where Brucker was sentenced to six months on probation for her driveway.

    "I think that Code Enforcement are spending too much time on minor violations," Snyder said, "and not enough on violations that really do affect the citizens and homeowners of Doraville.... There are code violations out there that do affect property value and do affect people's safety. And we would very much like to see more enforcement in these areas."

    Snyder and Brucker went to City Hall on Wednesday to speak with Mayor Donna Pittman, who was already meeting with other homeowners about code enforcement and other issues.

    Mayor Pittman did not want 11Alive News at the meeting, and, according to Georgia's Open Meetings law, since there was no quorum of the City Council present, she could declare the meeting to be private.

    City Manager Shawn Gillen told 11Alive News later that "after several decades of neglect" Doraville is in the midst of an aggressive campaign to fix city streets and sidewalks and properties -- city-owned and private, residential and commercial -- and the ramshackle building across the street from the courthouse is scheduled for demolition.

    "In the past 3 years, we have re-paved more streets than we did in the last 10 years," Gillen said.

    The tough penalties for infractions, he said, "up to $1,000 per violation, and the six-month probations, work to leverage people to come into compliance. Everybody gets treated the same... Our goal is compliance."

    Mayor Pittman would not comment on specific cases like Brucker's, but she said most Doraville residents want Code Enforcement to get tougher – the toughest penalties allowed under the law even for first offenders committing the most minor of civil infractions.

    "They feel like it devalues their property if everyone else is not having the upkeep that they think that they should," she said. "Whatever's in the ordinance is what they [Code Enforcement inspectors] usually charge people with, they're not out there creating things."

    When asked if the city is going overboard in enforcing minor code violations Pittman said she didn't.

    "I think our code enforcement does a very good job of enforcing what the council's wishes are," she said.

    Hilda Brucker may challenge her citation and probated jail sentence.

    "It's not even a misdemeanor, it's some kind of civil infraction, and, honestly, I don't think my driveway is the biggest problem in Doraville" that justifies potential jail time, she said.

    But what she really wants from City Hall, she said, is "to stop treating citizens like criminals. And to work with people instead of against people."
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    Get out of the cities.

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    I just KNEW I shouldn't have gotten up this early...


    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    bucolic Northwoods subdivision


    Let us begin with a raging oxymoron.

    If they commit even a minor infraction of city codes on private property, they are facing 6 months on probation, and, potentially, jail time.

    Well, there's the basic mistake - believing that private property exists on this prison planet.

    City leaders say strict code enforcement protects safety and property values.
    Yeah... gotta have that safety enforced under threats of harm. And why are property values so important if there is no private property? Oh I get it - you as renter are obliged to keep Master's property in righteous trim. Silly me.

    "They gave me a six month probated jail sentence, so I now have a probation officer [because of] my driveway cracks."
    So cracks in a driveway are now a criminal offense? Interesting.

    She said she received a phone call in October, telling her to report to Doraville Municipal Court for failure to appear, and, she said, even then no one showed her a citation.
    Move to dismiss. Oh wait...

    She thinks six months on probation is too harsh a penalty for a relatively minor code infraction.
    And here, my friends, is a money shot... right to the eyes. It tempts me to think, "you deserve the screwing you're getting for being so ignorant and passive."

    Then Snyder started taking photos of major code violations in Doraville -- such as abandoned, boarded up, fire-damaged houses, and businesses with piles of trash stacked high outside the buildings.

    He began asking why the city isn't enforcing those violations -- including broken, dangerous city sidewalks, half-hidden under a layer of fallen, uncleared leaves; and dilapidated city-owned properties.

    One of those city-owned properties is the unsightly, former house at the corner of New Peachtree Rd. and Park Ave. The siding is falling off, the paint is peeling badly and the structure is uninhabitable. And it is right across the street from the Doraville Municipal Courthouse where Brucker was sentenced to six months on probation for her driveway.
    Before anyone gets all happy and cheering for the rebel...

    "I think that Code Enforcement are spending too much time on minor violations,"


    In the end, he is just another deluded schmuck who just doesn't get it.

    Snyder said, "and not enough on violations that really do affect the citizens and homeowners of Doraville.... There are code violations out there that do affect property value and do affect people's safety. And we would very much like to see more enforcement in these areas."


    Of that I have no doubt.

    Mayor Pittman did not want 11Alive News at the meeting, and, according to Georgia's Open Meetings law, since there was no quorum of the City Council present, she could declare the meeting to be private.
    Public servants holding private meetings regarding presumably public matters.

    Makes sense to me.

    City Manager Shawn Gillen told 11Alive News later that "after several decades of neglect" Doraville is in the midst of an aggressive campaign to fix city streets and sidewalks and properties -- city-owned and private, residential and commercial -- and the ramshackle building across the street from the courthouse is scheduled for demolition.
    Timing's just a big giant coinkydinky. Nothing to see here. Move along.

    I SAID move along.

    "In the past 3 years, we have re-paved more streets than we did in the last 10 years," Gillen said.
    This is so embarrassing... I mean, my hardon... I just can't help myself... all the new pavement... the kindly, honest competency of government... I... I... I think I feel a squirt coming on... oh dear, this IS embarrassing...

    The tough penalties for infractions, he said, "up to $1,000 per violation, and the six-month probations, work to leverage people to come into compliance. Everybody gets treated the same... Our goal is compliance."


    In a sense you have to give props for honesty. In an age now long past us, they would have lied up one side and down the other on such a point in order to avoid being shot. Now... meh... it's just compliance. Nothing to get knotted over.

    Mayor Pittman would not comment on specific cases like Brucker's, but she said most Doraville residents want Code Enforcement to get tougher – the toughest penalties allowed under the law even for first offenders committing the most minor of civil infractions.
    I wonder what she would say if the Klan became the vast majority and wanted all them Knee-Grows hanging like strange fruit from the trees on Park Ave.?

    "They feel like it devalues their property if everyone else is not having the upkeep that they think that they should," she said. "Whatever's in the ordinance is what they [Code Enforcement inspectors] usually charge people with, they're not out there creating things."
    Oh motherfucker... Let me not even start.

    "I think our code enforcement does a very good job of enforcing what the council's wishes are," she said.
    Yeah, $#@! property rights... And $#@! YOU while we're at it.

    Hilda Brucker may challenge her citation and probated jail sentence.
    "May". I'd at least have a shred of respect for the stupid, cow-eyed, compliant wench if she'd said she may hunt and kill the mayor.

    I wonder if she was the class slut in high school... "I MAY say no to your predatory teen sexual advances...", as her legs widen ever further.

    "It's not even a misdemeanor, it's some kind of civil infraction, and, honestly, I don't think my driveway is the biggest problem in Doraville" that justifies potential jail time, she said.
    OK God damn it... how in hell does someone get sentenced to probation for something that doesn't even rate as a misdemeanor? This is nuttier than squirrel poo. Furthermore, if the "state" is so all fired eager to protect the rights of the people, why are they not watching what municipalities are doing and stomping them into the dirt when they pull $#@! like this?

    That was a rhetorical question.


    But what she really wants from City Hall, she said, is "to stop treating citizens like criminals. And to work with people instead of against people."


    I don't suppose she's too familiar with the notion of "because $#@! YOU", eh?
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    That's what happens when rich people get control. Live in a poor neighborhood. Nobody cares how long your grass is or whether your driveway has potholes. People are too busy working to worry about what other people do.
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    Our goal is compliance.
    It has always been such with governments.

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