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well.... there goes any chance of the LP getting my vote.
All is well though, Rand has been giving some great interviews recently, i had pretty much decided to write him in.
My conscience will be clear.
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"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
This can be a learning experience or a mistake.
More party desperation at the RPFs or...? All is forgiven, we all learn at different times in our lives. Let's hope for a learning experience.
(twice a W voter)
Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is kept safe. Proverbs 29:25
"I think the propaganda machine is the biggest problem that we face today in trying to get the truth out to people."
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There was a reason Weld barely won the VP nomination and Sharpe came a close 2nd on the 2nd ballot. This guy is a snake in the grass, which is what a large portion of libertarians could see a mile away and why a near plurality voted against the guy. He never should have won, but the GJ effort to court delegates on his side well in advance of the convention in comparison to the other candidates is what ultimately gave us someone as terrible as Weld.
If there are people interested in the 2020 LP nomination, and there definitely are, they need to be working on it already or you will lose to a half foot in, half foot out establishment candidate like GJ, who is most certainly willing to do the extensive work to win, and will bring their unprincipled fellows along for the ride.
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- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)· tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ·
I noticed r3volution 3.0 didn't dare post in this thread, even though he was here posting in other threads tonight.
I guess one can handle only so much humiliation per day.
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I don't think there were many enthusiastic GJ supporters here this cycle. I've stated all along that the only reason I'm voting L this election cycle is to support their getting 5%. Anyway, this shouldn't really bother the Trump people around here as his support for Hillary has never been an issue for them.
Now I might just write Ron Paul in.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Gary Johnson needs to says something about this very soon. He can't have the VP candidate sabotage the party and remain quiet. I'll still vote for Gary Johnson, hope they at least make the 5% and block either candidate from 270. I believe November 8th will be the last day of Weld the libertarian. If the LP get near 10% this year they might attract a candidate that can win in 2020.
Lets hope the 2020 ticket will is Ron and Rand Paul.
Today is the last day of early voting in Tennessee. Beautiful day.
I voted today. Holy guacamole people are angry out there. By law I could have requested to move to the front of the line (obvious difficulty walking and standing and use a cane), but I was okay to wait. The line moved very quickly. I was glad to get out of there, though.
Did not vote for Johnson/Weld. Did not hear them mentioned at all by anyone.
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Weld is a $#@!ing mole. It is so easy to corrupt weak LP candidates. Again I will repeat the system is designed against 3rd parties. Why are you voting for them since RP said it was just not worth it running as a 3rd party. You don't get it do you?
You guys are delusional. 3rd parties never exist in winner take all. Several parties only exists in proportional allocations.
And 3rd parties are not inherently better. Look at the disastrous LP ticket. It is a complete joke.
The libertarian party has been compromised and infested by the statist's tentacles. Either purge it from this cancer or stop promoting it as a better alternative. I say this as someone who has been voting libertarian since 2000. Ever since they started gaining steam, the social justice warriors, neocons, and statists have been slowly infiltrating.
Just like they did with that chick Jill Stein who's VP is connected to Sorors. Their tentacles need to be cut off. Not just repudiated.
We have already seen how they have been co-opting movements like Operation Wall Street from Anonymous and the Tea Party from the Ron Paul Revolution, and on and on.
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A good thrashing with Johnson barely ending up with 1-2%, barely better than 2012, may drive this point home. If these experienced wishy-washy moderates can't perform in any meaningful way, and subtly shill for creeps like Hillary, then what's the point in nominating them?
Better to get half a percent with a real libertarian than one or two points with frauds like Weld.
Not sure why everybody is so outraged about this. Weld was a troubling choice for VP from day one. The LP at large gambled that his name recognition, record and connections could get them the attention and funding to poll well for the debates. It didn't work out and now the LP rank-and-file is either totally ambivalent or realizes it was a stupid gamble. Meanwhile, Weld is just networking for his next gig like always. Take a look at all the Youtube comments from liberals that loved him in this Maddow interview.
It's valuable for the LP to get 5% this cycle. GJ says he's not running for pres again after this. Hopefully those activist libertarians who have given up on changing the Republican Party will get involved with the LP and do what it takes to field a good candidate for 2020. And BTW, Mackey, Petersen and Parry weren't good candidates either IMO - all novices with a sheen of crazy or hot-headed. The LP is small and easy for the establishment to game unless dedicated individuals help build a firewall within the LP organization.
If Hillary wins, the LP stands to make a huge impact next election. Probably not if trump wins.
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Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018
This is the one saving grace I can glean from voting for the LP ticket this election. Getting 5% in a state seems to be a worthwhile endeavor if you still have any hope for a 3rd party group. Maybe we get a real libertarian in there in 2020, maybe we don't. Recent history of Barr, Johnson, Johnson does not bold well for the LP however, so cynicism is completely understandable.
Bryan, is it time now to take down Johnson/Weld as a "liberty candidate"?
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
I watched the entire Rachel Maddow interview, and it is worse than the clip. Weld actively campaigned for Clinton, a candidate that goes against LP platform. I had my mind made up to vote for Johnson as soon as he was nominated. I voted for him in 2012. Now I am 75%.
I got an email from Weld last night and replied that he needs to step down. I called for Weld's resignation in the Libertarian discussion group.
The Libertarian Party is having a crisis of leadership by not taking action against Weld. Gary Johnson is showing weakness by doing nothing. He needs to have a press conference today and demand Weld leave the campaign. This is the only way Johnson get back to 5% or have a chance to keep either candidate for 270.
If Gary Johnson cannot address and correct this situation, it changes my view of his ability to be president. A Ron Paul write-in is a serious possibility for me now. Maybe Vermin Supreme.
I should have just listened to Gunny!
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This is the worst ticket on the election. I would rather vote to MAGA than this garbage. I expected garbage from the D and R tickets, and the L ticket had so much potentially. Totally wasted.
Big L = complete garbage.
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