I Voted Today

[PierzStyx]

A vote is not property. You can't sell it any more than you can sell citizenship.

Sure it is. Anything I can rightfully do is mine to sell.

Your argument is silly. I don't own language. So I shouldn't be able to sell my right to speak to the highest bidder right? Except there are whole businesses, such as endorsements, built off that exact precept.

And I certainly can sell my citizenship. The USA does it every year, people pay big bucks for it. If I am a citizen why can I not sell it?

[PierzStyx]

Because you don't.

Just like you don't truly own anything else.

True. If I have such a thing as a vote then it has been co-opted by the government, just a smy property has. Property taxes are really just rent you pay to the State. But I'm thinking more in the hypothetical here. Assuming I have a vote, why couldn't I sell it to whomever I want? People get paid to do things for others all the time. How is voting any different?

[Jamesiv1]

Stop hugging me!

You could report it to the mods as a micro-aggression.

[Jamesiv1]

that guy needs some hugz. Somebody notify HB.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Justin Timberlake flew back to Memphis the other day and took a selfie of himself voting for Hillary. (I didn't know that was his residence). The county sheriff announced they might be seeking charges against JT cause, apparently, taking pictures of yourself voting is a crime in Tennessee. (Seriously.....like WTF?)

It's because there's laws against photography at a polling place, but that's usually meant for outside the booth trying to take pictures of voters and the books, etc.

[Anti Federalist]

True. If I have such a thing as a vote then it has been co-opted by the government, just a smy property has. Property taxes are really just rent you pay to the State. But I'm thinking more in the hypothetical here. Assuming I have a vote, why couldn't I sell it to whomever I want? People get paid to do things for others all the time. How is voting any different?

No, if you truly owned your "vote", I can see no reason why it could not be sold.

Of course, there are negative ramifications of that...but no worse than the ones we have now.

[Danke]

I voted today.

[misterx]

Sure it is. Anything I can rightfully do is mine to sell.

Your argument is silly. I don't own language. So I shouldn't be able to sell my right to speak to the highest bidder right? Except there are whole businesses, such as endorsements, built off that exact precept.

And I certainly can sell my citizenship. The USA does it every year, people pay big bucks for it. If I am a citizen why can I not sell it?

Since when do libertarians believe in intellectual property? You're not selling words, you're selling your labor. I guess we should just eliminate elections altogether, because if people can sell their votes we might as well just give the presidency to the highest bidder.

[heavenlyboy34]

I voted today.

We of Oceania congratulate you on completing this pointless, meaningless task. Thank you for your subservience. Have a nice day!

[heavenlyboy34]

Since when do libertarians believe in intellectual property? You're not selling words, you're selling your labor. I guess we should just eliminate elections altogether, because if people can sell their votes we might as well just give the presidency to the highest bidder.

That's how it already works, though. Please read "Parliament Of Whores" by PJ O'Rourke.

[TheTexan]

We of Oceania congratulate you on completing this pointless, meaningless task.

-rep

It was apparently meaningful enough, for you to participate.

Thank you for your subservience. Have a nice day!

And you as well

[TheTexan]

I voted today.

Nice! +rep

Nothing better, except maybe sex.

[TheTexan]

No, if you truly owned your "vote", I can see no reason why it could not be sold.

Of course, there are negative ramifications of that...but no worse than the ones we have now.

Ya, just imagine the horror, if votes could be bought.

The horror!

[KEEF]

Let's vote harder.

Those purple fingers all remind me of what it would look like if some doctor was giving an alien a prostate exam and the glove ripped.

[The Gold Standard]

People in the office today have been begging me to vote for Trump, and I told them what I've said here. My vote is for sale, but it won't come cheap. Have to figure in the time it would take standing in line at the polls.

[heavenlyboy34]

It was apparently meaningful enough, for you to participate.

All expressions of slaves' obedience to their masters should be met with praise somehow. It makes them feel better. Happy to be of service to teh forums. ~hugs~

[misterx]

That's how it already works, though. Please read "Parliament Of Whores" by PJ O'Rourke.

Then why isn't Jeb Bush the nominee?

[Origanalist]

Since when do libertarians believe in intellectual property? You're not selling words, you're selling your labor. I guess we should just eliminate elections altogether, because if people can sell their votes we might as well just give the presidency to the highest bidder.

Or we could eliminate the presidency along with the elections. After all George Washington $#@!ed it up from the start. And he was my favorite prez.

[Origanalist]

[heavenlyboy34]

Then why isn't Jeb Bush the nominee?

Probably wasn't good enough for The Party. IDK, I wasn't there when the decisions were made.

[misterx]

Probably wasn't good enough for The Party. IDK, I wasn't there when the decisions were made.

If decisions were made, then Trump wouldn't be the nominee.

[misterx]

Or we could eliminate the presidency along with the elections. After all George Washington $#@!ed it up from the start. And he was my favorite prez.

Yeah, no thanks, unless you want to replace the republic with monarchy. Anarchy is a fool's paradise.

[Origanalist]

Yeah, no thanks, unless you want to replace the republic with monarchy. Anarchy is a fool's paradise.

Ya, as opposed to the great thing happening now.

[heavenlyboy34]

Ya, as opposed to the great thing happening now.

This^^ Voluntaryist Anarchy FTW.

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, no thanks, unless you want to replace the republic with monarchy. Anarchy is a fool's paradise.

Yeah...ok.

I'd happily take anarchy over this dog's breakfast of $#@! we have now.

[specsaregood]

Yeah...ok.

I'd happily take anarchy over this dog's breakfast of $#@! we have now.

Yeah uhm, we already live in a state of anarchy. It is the breakfast of $#@! we have now.

[Origanalist]

Yeah uhm, we already live in a state of anarchy. It is the breakfast of $#@! we have now.

I don't follow.

[specsaregood]

I don't follow.

We certainly don't live in a situation where the rule of law is followed.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy

: a situation of confusion and wild behavior in which the people in a country, group, organization, etc., are not controlled by rules or laws

what we have now is already the inevitable result of any type of anarchist society. embrace it anarchists!

[Origanalist]

We certainly don't live in a situation where the rule of law is followed.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy

Well, there is the problem. There is merriam-webster's definition of anarchy and then there the anarchists definition of anarchy. The state makes up the rules as they please and as it suites them. Take the state out of the equation and give it a shot.

[specsaregood]

Well, there is the problem. There is merriam-webster's definition of anarchy and then there the anarchists definition of anarchy. The state makes up the rules as they please and as it suites them. Take the state out of the equation and give it a shot.

Meh, point is, we don't live in a situation where laws or govt is legitimate. what we have is just what youd end up with, without a state. the powerful and rich would create a state and use it to subjugate you. it is human nature.