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    Exclamation Hillary pressed FBI and DOJ to carry out the final assault at Waco

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    In 2001, Tripp told CNN Host Larry King that Hillary Clinton pressured the late Vince Foster, former deputy White House counsel, to resolve the Waco standoff problem in 1993. Former House Waco investigator T. March Bell charged that Hillary pressured Attorney General Janet Reno through Deputy Attorney General Webb Hubbell to initiate the attack on the Waco compound in 1993 that left 86 people dead, including children. Bell charged that Hillary orchestrated the action because the Waco standoff was dominating the news.

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    Hillary Clinton pressured the late Vince Foster to resolve the 1993 Waco standoff in a move that led to the deaths of more than 80 men, women and children, former White House aide Linda Tripp charged in an interview Friday night.

    Tripp also alleged that Monica Lewinsky was more of a victim of Bill Clinton's sexual predations than the former White House intern has publicly acknowledged.

    Appearing on CNN's "Larry King Live," Tripp suggested that Foster, at Mrs. Clinton's direction, transmitted the order to move on the Branch Davidian's Waco compound, which culminated in a military-style tear gas attack on the wooden structure.

    The compound burst into flames hours later as federal troops used a U.S. Army tank to ram the building and insert flammable gas.

    Tripp described Foster's demeanor as "dignified, decent, caring, smart" during his early days at the White House. But when Waco happened, she said, "that's when I first knew that Vince was falling apart."

    Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park three months later.

    Tripp said she was with the former deputy White House counsel when the news of the Waco assault broke on television.

    "A special bulletin came on showing the atrocity at Waco and the children. And his face, his whole body slumped, and his face turned white, and he was absolutely crushed knowing - knowing the part he had played."

    "And he had played the part at Mrs. Clinton's direction," charged Tripp.

    Tripp was stunned by the contrast between Foster's heartfelt emotion at the Waco tragedy and what she observed from Mrs. Clinton.

    "Her reaction, on the other hand, was heartless," Tripp told King, adding, "I can only tell you what I saw."

    When asked how the decision to move on Waco was transmitted, Tripp said, "Foster, Mrs. Clinton, [deputy Attorney General] Webb Hubbell, [Attorney General] Janet Reno."

    Tripp's new charge corroborates allegations first leveled in the 1999 documentary on the deadly confrontation, "Waco: A New Revelation."

    In the film, director Michael McNulty included the account of former House Waco investigator T. March Bell.

    "One of the interesting things that happens in an investigation is that you get anonymous phone calls," Bell explains in the film.

    "And we in fact received anonymous phone calls from Justice Department managers and attorneys who believe that pressure was placed on Janet Reno by Webb Hubbell, pressure that came from the first lady of the United States."

    At the film's premiere, Bell told NewsMax.com that phone logs obtained by House investigators indicated that Mrs. Clinton, Foster and Hubbell worked on Waco together.

    "Those phone logs were Webb Hubbell's phone logs. There were calls from the first lady and Vince Foster to Webb Hubbell's office" during the Waco crisis, he said.

    Bell said Mrs. Clinton grew more and more impatient as the Waco standoff came to dominate the headlines during the early months of the Clinton administration. It was she, Bell's source claims, who pressured a reluctant Janet Reno to act.

    Reno, on the other hand, was not enthusiastic about launching the assault, said Bell. "Give me a reason not to do this," she is said to have begged aides.


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    Men women and children .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Men women and children .........
    HilLiary "The Trail of Tears" Clinton

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    I gave a presentation on the Waco Massacre in High School. Bringing back old memories here. Wish I could've included this tidbit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Miriam Godwinson View Post
    We Must Dissent.

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    Can anybody imagine Laura Bush, or even Michelle Obama pressuring two cabinet-level departments on any matter? Just another reminder that Hillary has been exercising proxy power to run the federal government over the last 25 years, no matter what title she has held.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Can anybody imagine Laura Bush, or even Michelle Obama pressuring two cabinet-level departments on any matter? Just another reminder that Hillary has been exercising proxy power to run the federal government over the last 25 years, no matter what title she has held.
    I've been ruled by a Bush or Clinton, or their proxies, for almost all of my adult life.

    And that thought is so damn depressing it's enough to make me want to jump from a high place.

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    Best hope is a "divided house" like we currently have. No one party in charge of everything so it is harder to get anything done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ...we are talking about:

    Is this the documentary which was gaining "way too much" attention shortly before 9/11/2001?
    And/or the one where they show machine gun fire from a helicopter, and strong evidence of mass-murder in a hallway mowing down people trying to escape?
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Best hope is a "divided house" like we currently have. No one party in charge of everything so it is harder to get anything done.
    Zippy in support of status quo.

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    Better than one party in charge of everything. Then they can run amok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Better than one party in charge of everything. Then they can run amok.
    /sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    Is this the documentary which was gaining "way too much" attention shortly before 9/11/2001?
    And/or the one where they show machine gun fire from a helicopter, and strong evidence of mass-murder in a hallway mowing down people trying to escape?
    That's the one.

    Not a hallway, but feds under tank cover, mowing down people escaping through the back doors, the doors away from the press, which was held back two miles away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That's the one.

    Not a hallway, but feds under tank cover, mowing down people escaping through the back doors, the doors away from the press, which was held back two miles away.
    I believe situations like these are called "collateral damage".
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    We Must Dissent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Better than one party in charge of everything. Then they can run amok.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Can anybody imagine Laura Bush, or even Michelle Obama pressuring two cabinet-level departments on any matter? Just another reminder that Hillary has been exercising proxy power to run the federal government over the last 25 years, no matter what title she has held.
    Well, ya. are you really under the delusion they didn't?

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    ‘Waco’ Miniseries Starring Taylor Kitsch, Michael Shannon Lands at Spike TV

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/spik...co-1201901250/

    October 26, 2016 | 10:30AM PT

    Viacom’s Spike TV will air “Waco,” a six-part miniseries from Weinstein Television based on the true story of the 1993 FBI siege of a religious sect in Waco, Texas that resulted in a deadly shootout and fire.

    “Waco” will be written by John Erick Dowdle and Drew Dowdle, and directed by John Erick Dowdle and will go into production next spring. The scripted series will explore the true life details of a 51- day siege between U.S. government officials and David Koresh’s spiritual sect, The Branch Davidians. The story will include perspective from people on both sides of the conflict, including surviving Branch Davidians – who have provided detail that stands in what producers said was “stark contrast to the media narrative at the time and what is remembered of Waco almost 25 years later.”

    Michael Shannon will play lead FBI negotiator, Gary Noesner. Taylor Kitsch will play cult leader David Koresh. Shannon, Kitsch, and the Dowdle brothers will executive produce the series along with Weinstein Company Co-Chairmen Harvey Weinstein and Bob Weinstein, President and COO David Glasser, Co-head of Production Jennifer Malloy, and Head of Scripted Television Megan Spanjian of Weinstein Television.

    The series is based on two biographies, “A Place Called Waco,” by Branch Davidian David Thibodeau, one of the nine survivors of the final fire on April 19, 1993, and “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator,” written by the FBI’s Special Agent in Charge of Negotiations Gary Noesner.

    “‘Waco’ is a provocative series where the drama and excitement are amplified by the truth and the history surrounding the event, along with a cast of amazing actors including the incredible Michael Shannon and Taylor Kitsch,” said Harvey Weinstein, TWC co-chairman, in a prepared statement. “We are looking forward to working with Sharon Levy and her team to bring this story to life.”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Better than one party in charge of everything. Then they can run amok.
    They have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ‘Waco’ Miniseries Starring Taylor Kitsch, Michael Shannon Lands at Spike TV

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/spik...co-1201901250/

    October 26, 2016 | 10:30AM PT

    Viacom’s Spike TV will air “Waco,” a six-part miniseries from Weinstein Television based on the true story of the 1993 FBI siege of a religious sect in Waco, Texas that resulted in a deadly shootout and fire.

    “Waco” will be written by John Erick Dowdle and Drew Dowdle, and directed by John Erick Dowdle and will go into production next spring. The scripted series will explore the true life details of a 51- day siege between U.S. government officials and David Koresh’s spiritual sect, The Branch Davidians. The story will include perspective from people on both sides of the conflict, including surviving Branch Davidians – who have provided detail that stands in what producers said was “stark contrast to the media narrative at the time and what is remembered of Waco almost 25 years later.”

    Michael Shannon will play lead FBI negotiator, Gary Noesner. Taylor Kitsch will play cult leader David Koresh. Shannon, Kitsch, and the Dowdle brothers will executive produce the series along with Weinstein Company Co-Chairmen Harvey Weinstein and Bob Weinstein, President and COO David Glasser, Co-head of Production Jennifer Malloy, and Head of Scripted Television Megan Spanjian of Weinstein Television.

    The series is based on two biographies, “A Place Called Waco,” by Branch Davidian David Thibodeau, one of the nine survivors of the final fire on April 19, 1993, and “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator,” written by the FBI’s Special Agent in Charge of Negotiations Gary Noesner.

    “‘Waco’ is a provocative series where the drama and excitement are amplified by the truth and the history surrounding the event, along with a cast of amazing actors including the incredible Michael Shannon and Taylor Kitsch,” said Harvey Weinstein, TWC co-chairman, in a prepared statement. “We are looking forward to working with Sharon Levy and her team to bring this story to life.”
    "Cult leader". Why don't they refer to the Pope as a cult leader? And we keep hearing about the Syrian "regime" not Syrian government.

    Shouldn't we talk about the US regime, or Washington regime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ‘Waco’ Miniseries Starring Taylor Kitsch, Michael Shannon Lands at Spike TV

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/spik...co-1201901250/

    October 26, 2016 | 10:30AM PT

    Viacom’s Spike TV will air “Waco,” a six-part miniseries from Weinstein Television based on the true story of the 1993 FBI siege of a religious sect in Waco, Texas that resulted in a deadly shootout and fire.

    “Waco” will be written by John Erick Dowdle and Drew Dowdle, and directed by John Erick Dowdle and will go into production next spring. The scripted series will explore the true life details of a 51- day siege between U.S. government officials and David Koresh’s spiritual sect, The Branch Davidians. The story will include perspective from people on both sides of the conflict, including surviving Branch Davidians – who have provided detail that stands in what producers said was “stark contrast to the media narrative at the time and what is remembered of Waco almost 25 years later.”

    Michael Shannon will play lead FBI negotiator, Gary Noesner. Taylor Kitsch will play cult leader David Koresh. Shannon, Kitsch, and the Dowdle brothers will executive produce the series along with Weinstein Company Co-Chairmen Harvey Weinstein and Bob Weinstein, President and COO David Glasser, Co-head of Production Jennifer Malloy, and Head of Scripted Television Megan Spanjian of Weinstein Television.

    The series is based on two biographies, “A Place Called Waco,” by Branch Davidian David Thibodeau, one of the nine survivors of the final fire on April 19, 1993, and “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator,” written by the FBI’s Special Agent in Charge of Negotiations Gary Noesner.

    “‘Waco’ is a provocative series where the drama and excitement are amplified by the truth and the history surrounding the event, along with a cast of amazing actors including the incredible Michael Shannon and Taylor Kitsch,” said Harvey Weinstein, TWC co-chairman, in a prepared statement. “We are looking forward to working with Sharon Levy and her team to bring this story to life.”

    Ahhhh man that's a long ways away from airing..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    "Cult leader". Why don't they refer to the Pope as a cult leader? And we keep hearing about the Syrian "regime" not Syrian government.

    Shouldn't we talk about the US regime, or Washington regime?
    Pipe down, you...

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    Twenty-three and a half years later and they're still referring to the religious commune at Waco as a "compound".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Pipe down, you...
    Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu View Post
    Twenty-three and a half years later and they're still referring to the religious commune at Waco as a "compound".
    Amazing huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu View Post
    Twenty-three and a half years later and they're still referring to the religious commune at Waco as a "compound".
    It isn't one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_(enclosure)

    Compound when applied to a human habitat refers to a cluster of buildings in an enclosure, having a shared or associated purpose, such as the houses of an extended family (e.g. the Kennedy Compound for the Kennedy family). The enclosure may be a wall, a fence, a hedge or some other structure, or it may be formed by the buildings themselves, when they are built around an open area or joined together.

    Aerial of the Branch Davidian compound taken just two months before ATF agents raided it. Four agents and six Davidians were killed in the shootout 20 years ago. (Associated Press)
    http://baylorlariat.com/2013/04/19/2...ht-from-siege/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu View Post
    Twenty-three and a half years later and they're still referring to the religious commune at Waco as a "compound".
    This is a compound behind walls to keep the riffraff out.



    The Clinton's Compound in Chappaqua, NY
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    Is a Kibbutz a compound or commune?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It isn't one?
    I don't see any enclosing walls, moats, redoubts, or other accoutrements that one would expect to find at an armed compound.

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    EXCLUSIVE: Pastor who took over Branch Davidian Church after cult leader David Koresh blames HILLARY for manipulating Waco slaughter as she feared the stand-off would 'stain Bill's first term'

    Pastor Charles Pace took over the infamous Branch Davidian Church in Waco, Texas, 20 years ago
    He believes Donald Trump will change the country for the better if he is elected president
    He also says Trump and cult leader, David Koresh, who died along with his followers after a stand-off with the FBI in 1993, would have been allies
    On April 19, 1993, 76 people - including 18 children - lost their lives at the end of a stand-off between FBI agents and Branch Davidians led by Koresh
    Pace lays the blame for the carnage at Waco two decades ago squarely on the shoulders of Hillary Clinton
    He believes she was instrumental in ordering the end the siege became it was a stain on husband Bill's first term in office


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