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    Dutch may allow assisted suicide for those who feel they have 'completed life'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-they-have-co/

    12 OCTOBER 2016

    The Dutch government intends to draft a law that would legalise assisted suicide for people who feel they have "completed life", but are not necessarily terminally ill, it said on Wednesday.

    The Netherlands was the first country to legalise euthanasia, in 2002, but only for patients who were considered to be suffering unbearable pain with no hope of a cure.

    In a letter to parliament, the health and justice ministers said details remain to be worked out but that people who "have a well-considered opinion that their life is complete, must, under strict and careful criteria, be allowed to finish that life in a manner dignified for them".

    The proposal is likely to provoke critics who say Dutch euthanasia practice has already expanded beyond the borders originally envisioned for it, with "unbearable suffering" not only applying to people with terminal diseases, but also to some with mental illnesses and dementia.

    The euthanasia policy has widespread backing in Dutch society, and cases have risen by double digits every year for more than a decade as more patients request it and more doctors are willing to carry it out. Euthanasia accounted for 5,516 deaths in the Netherlands in 2015, or 3.9 percent of all deaths nationwide.

    Edith Schippers, health minister, wrote in the letter that "because the wish for a self-chosen end of life primarily occurs in the elderly, the new system will be limited to" them.

    She did not define a threshold age.

    The new law will require "careful guidance and vetting ahead of time with a 'death assistance provider' with a medical background, who has also been given additional training".

    Other aspects of the law as she envisions it will include safety mechanisms including third-party checks, reviews and supervision.

    The proposal comes as a surprise, as a commission enlisted to study the idea of allowing a "completed life" extension to current policy concluded there was no need for it.

    The ministers disagreed. "The Cabinet is of the opinion that a request for help (in dying) from people who suffer unbearably and have no hope without an underlying medical reason can be a legitimate request".

    They hope to draft a law, in consultation with doctors, ethicists and other experts, by the end of 2017.



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    Maybe that's why the pizza oven remains incomplete.
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    I feel that many politicians have completed their life's work

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    Time to get into the assisted suicide/crematorium vending machine. Think about it. Tired of life? Enter a coffin sized cubicle. Get euthanized. Get cremated. Ashes go into a container that is shipped to the person/institute of your choice.

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    Kevorkian would be proud. SMDH.
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    The scoops are on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The scoops are on the way.

    Run by autonomous robots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Rep for having watched more than the punchline.
    It's actually quite an engaging film that says a lot of different things.

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    Much better than the book it was loosely based on, which was typical Malthusian claptrap.



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    I am not yet complete .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am not yet complete .
    What will it take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What will it take?
    Well its always a big list but I just recently started a new project and I do not like to leave things undone . I wanted to get up there with Lavere Redfield but I am not going to make it.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Well its always a big list but I just recently started a new project and I do not like to leave things undone . I wanted to get up there with Lavere Redfield but I am not going to make it.
    Let me know when you're leaving earth in a giant, flaming blaze of glory, uncle Oyarde. I haven't seen that sort of thing yet, and I've heard it's a marvel to behold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Well its always a big list but I just recently started a new project and I do not like to leave things undone . I wanted to get up there with Lavere Redfield but I am not going to make it.
    Can you take HB with you?
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    Do the Dutch know they don't get a do over with a law like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Can you take HB with you?
    Maybe you could earn one of my sacred arrows and become invincible for awhile .....
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Time to get into the assisted suicide/crematorium vending machine. Think about it. Tired of life? Enter a coffin sized cubicle. Get euthanized. Get cremated. Ashes go into a container that is shipped to the person/institute of your choice.
    You're a genius.

    I'm in... the idea, that is; not the vending machine itself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Rep for having watched more than the punchline.
    It's actually quite an engaging film that says a lot of different things.

    Soylent Green, for the kids out there.
    Agreed. The production, while a bit cheesy in some respects, comes off well in terms of story and the subsurface messages.

    I believe it was Robinson's last film. Couldn't let a man like that go out on a groaner.
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