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Thread: HuffPost: Trumps wants to interpret the Constitution the way the Founding Fathers did.Not cool

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    HuffPost: Trumps wants to interpret the Constitution the way the Founding Fathers did.Not cool




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    As if Trump gave a $#@! about this Constitution thing you speak of...
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Almost every single thing he proposes to do as president would violate this Constitution that he regards so highly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The “Living” Constitution…

    by eric • September 16, 2016

    http://ericpetersautos.com/2016/09/1...comment-653477

    It’s said – approvingly, by some – that the Constitution is a “living” document.

    Imagine any other contract that was also “living.” That is, subject to unilateral changes according to the whim of one of the parties to the contract.

    Would you sign?

    Would you feel yourself bound by such a contract?

    Probably not.

    Any contract subject to change without the explicit prior consent – freely given – of both parties is no contract at all.

    The words agreed to either have very specific meanings (this is what lawyers are for) clearly stated and clearly agreed to – or they don’t. If the meaning is “living” – subject to interpretation by one side or the other – then the document has no meaning, except whatever suits the party doing the “interpreting.” If that party has power to enforce its “interpretation,” then what you’ve got is not a contract.

    It is an excuse to abuse.

    A means of compelling the acquiescence of the victim to an outrage he would otherwise never tolerate.

    This is the evil genius of the “living” Constitution, which was purposefully engineered to do exactly that by its engineers.

    They referred to themselves as Federalists for a reason.

    The Constitution, they assured was, was supposed to define the limited powers of the federal government but – as ought to be evident by now – provided the legal mechanism for the acquisition of unlimited power by the federal government. Exactly as intended.

    There is now, very plainly, absolutely nothing beyond the scope of the federal government’s authority to micromanage (and punish).

    If the Constitution had merit as a contract, one would be able to read the thing and determine whether “x” was within the scope of the powers granted or not. But it is a “living” document – and so everything is at least potentially (and increasingly, actually) within the scope of the powers granted.

    If a majority of the nine robed high priests of the church of state – who have given themselves the power to “interpret” the “living” document – agree that the government has lawful authority to do “x” then – presto! – it has the power. Regardless of any direct language to the contrary such as found in the tacked-on Bill of Rights, the plain language thereof being purposefully ignored when not in accordance with the desire of the Nine to increase the “constitutional” powers of the federal government.

    The “living” Constitution is metastasizing cancer. It grows without limit.

    In a will or other valid contract, you will not encounter essentially meaningless verbiage such as the “general welfare” – which is meaningless precisely because it can mean anything, according to anyone’s opinion thereof.

    Rather, you will find meticulous, precise language that is not the least bit “living.” That’s the point of having a contract. It’s why you hire lawyers to write them. So that there is no misunderstanding.

    No interpretation after the fact.

    Each party is assured of the other’s obligations prior to signing – and they sign (agree) on this basis. That “x” is within the terms of the contract but “y” is not. If one or both parties to the contract become unhappy with the terms of the contract, they may agree to change the contract or to null and void the contract. But both parties must agree to this.

    One party cannot unilaterally change the terms – and then demand the other party obey.

    Imagine if the fixed-rate, 30-year mortgage you signed became a “living” document one fine day. You receive a letter in the mail informing you that your lender has “interpreted” the fixed 3.2 percent interest you agreed to actually means “fixed according to changing market conditions” and your new rate is higher.

    Would you send in your next payment?

    No contract – except the “living” Constitution – works like this.

    Yet we are supposed to accept constantly shifting unilateral changes regarding our obligations under said contract, alongside constantly shifting, unilateral changes regarding the powers enjoyed by the government.

    These powers always increasing – along with our obligations.

    Our liberties constantly diminishing.

    Lord Vader’s quip to Lando Calrissian in The Empire Strikes Back comes to mind: “I am altering the deal; pray I do not alter it further.”

    Lando, of course, was under no illusion about the nature of the “deal.” He understood where he stood in relation to Lord Vader (and the empire) and felt no moral obligation to obey; he did so as necessary to save his skin – under duress. And disobeyed whenever an opportunity presented itself.

    Why are so many Americans deluded about the “living” Constitution? So pathetically reverentially toward a contract that binds them but not the other party? That imposes new and onerous obligations on them at whim – while releasing the other party from any obligations whatsoever?

    At what point will a sufficiency of the public realize such a contract is no contract at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ...Lord Vader’s quip to Lando Calrissian in The Empire Strikes Back comes to mind: “I am altering the deal; pray I do not alter it further.”

    ...
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    Federalists, keeping the CON in CONstitution since 1787.
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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    The Constitution is the only thing keeping us from becoming like Europe. Imagine what would happen if we got rid of it.

    But seriously, it's hilarious to see the left try to make Trump out to be a hard-core right-winger when most of his policies are leftist.
    Stop believing stupid things



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