Trumps seeing the Light

[UWDude]

LOL. That's the beauty of being a Trumpskiite isn't it? You can pick and choose when you are going to believe Trump. Why do you take Trump literally when he says "I'm going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it?"

I don't. I don't think the wall is going to happen.

No because Snowden will never leave Russia and Putin will never extradite him. Besides, as you pointed out, Trump now sees the value of the Wikileaked intelligence.

Snowden has talked of coming back to face trial, because he wants to come back.

Sure Dahmer had his own law. He only raped and killed boys. Women were safe around him.

you win, cuz I dont care

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-case-new-york

Five black men were wrongfully accused of raping a jogger in New York's Central Park. Donald Trump injected himself into the "trial by media" against the men. DNA evidence showed they didn't commit the crime and they won a lawsuit against the city for wrongful prosecution. Rather than apologize for his role in their smear, Donald Trump doubled down on the lie that they must have somehow been guilty.

Honestly, the guardian may be right, but at this point, I trust nothing, at all, the media says about Donald Trump, or his past.
NOTHING.

and



relax dude.

What do you want? Why are you so mad?

[jmdrake]

I don't. I don't think the wall is going to happen.

Okay. So what has Trump said that you actually do believe? Curious.

Snowden has talked of coming back to face trial, because he wants to come back.

*sigh* Poor sap must miss home a lot. The Apostle Paul was warned by another prophet that if he went to Rome to face trial he would die. He went anyway. I fear the same for Snowden, but it's his life.

you win, cuz I dont care

Okay.

Honestly, the guardian may be right, but at this point, I trust nothing, at all, the media says about Donald Trump, or his past.
NOTHING.

The article quotes Trump directly. It's not what the media is saying about Trump's past. It's what Trump said himself.

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relax dude.

What do you want? Why are you so mad?

LOL. I'm not angry at all. No cussing. No ALL CAPS. No putting stuff in bold. No anger. I'm just sharing facts with you that show Trump does not actually respect the rule of law. You can decide to do with those facts what you will. If you wish to turn off information that proves that Trump tried to railroad innocent men for rape and then got angry once the system actually worked right and exonerated him because that doesn't fit the "Trump is for the rule of law" narrative that you've bought hook, line and sinker then that's on you.

[UWDude]

Ron Paul > Trump
Libertarianism > Authoritarianism
Principle > Rhetoric

reality > ideology

I never, ever, actually believed Ron Paul could win. I think deep down, 90% of his supporters knew it would take a miracle. I knew he did not have mass appeal. I supported him 100%, because I wanted him to get the message out.

Also, Ron Paul, and Donald trump are the only two candidates that have ever appeared on the Alex Jones show. I think that says a ton about Trump, and what he really is.

[UWDude]

Okay. So what has Trump said that you actually do believe? Curious.

His first 100 day plan. I think he will do all of them, except the amendment.....but I am sure he will start the process to get the new amendment started, and will bully pulpit it.

He will start forming the deportation department

He will flip international alliances on their head, and will join Russia in Helping Assad defeat ISIS. he said so as much in the 3rd debate, and I think he means it.

I think he'll start exploring the muslim entry ban.

50% chance he goes after Clinton.

He definitely will scrap NAFTA, TPP, maybe NATO, and impose tariffs on many countries, and use the threat as leverage for many others.

I understand now, he explained it, when he talked about how his Chinese friends laugh and say they can't believe how badly they get to screw the Untied states over. United states has been getting sold out, so hard, for so long, and it is all because of corruption. The deals never took the American people into consideration, and I believe, 100%, that will be his first priority every time.

No anger.

then don't

"Trump is for the rule of law"

Somebody else said that. Already told you that.

The article quotes Trump directly. It's not what the media is saying about Trump's past. It's what Trump said himself.

yes, but I have seen them take trump out of context for everything. I don't trust any of them, and their interpretation of his past, one bit. Find me an article from before he started running for president.

[jmdrake]

His first 100 day plan. I think he will do all of them, except the amendment.....but I am sure he will start the process to get the new amendment started, and will bully pulpit it.

He will start forming the deportation department

Are you sure about that? Because he's on record as saying he's not for a new deportation department. Stupid idea anyway. There's already ICE.

He will flip international alliances on their head, and will join Russia in Helping Assad defeat ISIS. he said so as much in the 3rd debate, and I think he means it.

I'll give you that one. He is friendly with Putin and I think that's a good thing.

I think he'll start exploring the muslim entry ban.

LOL. What's ^that even supposed to mean?

50% chance he goes after Clinton.

100% chance that he won't go after Bill for being involved in a child prostitution ring because Trump has connections to that same ring.

He definitely will scrap NAFTA, TPP, maybe NATO, and impose tariffs on many countries, and use the threat as leverage for many others.

Will Trump cause a crippling trade war? Maybe. Will he stop making his ties in China? I doubt it.

then don't

does not mean anger. It means you've said something I think is ridiculous.

Somebody else said that. Already told you that.

Saying "Trump is for rule of law" is worthy of

yes, but I have seen them take trump out of context for everything. I don't trust any of them, and their interpretation of his past, one bit. Find me an article from before he started running for president.

Here's Trump's own op ed piece written long before he ran for president. The Guardian merely quoted and linked to it. As you read this, realize that Trump is talking about men that were proven to be innocent of the charges against them because of DNA evidence which corroborated the testimony of the real rapist who confessed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1838467

[UWDude]

Saying "Trump is for rule of law" is worthy of

Alright, I tried to be nice.

For the third time, I didn't say that. Somebody else on this thread did.

How many more times am I going to have to tell you?

[TheCount]

Snowden is a spy who should be executed

Your evidence that he doesn't think Snowden should be executed is a quote of him saying that Snowden should be executed?

Like the Huffpo writer and the porn star who accuse him of sexual-ish assault-ish/advance-ish? Have you seen the huffpo writer's press conference, with the fake crying and all? Of course he should sue them, they are trying to disrupt a presidential elections with false accusations.

Nice attempt at deflection, but no. This is not a new thing, this is Trump's modus operandi.

In October, Trump took offense at a flier distributed by union workers during one of his campaign stops in Las Vegas. The flier’s claim: Trump didn’t stay at his own hotel during the event. Trump spoke that night at the Tropicana, but his campaign disputes the union’s claim that he didn’t spend the night at Trump Hotel Las Vegas. Trump and the hotel sued the culinary and bartenders union in federal court.

The suit does not claim libel, slander or defamation, which would require Trump to show that the flier wasn’t true and possibly that the union made its statement knowing it was false. Instead, the suit says the fliers violated Trump’s trademark by distributing “false and deceptively misleading statements” that could cause “reputational injury” to Trump Hotel Las Vegas. Trump’s attorneys claim the hotel “suffered and continues to suffer damages and irreparable injury which cannot be accurately computed at this time.”

Trump also went after a frequent critic, HBO’s Maher, for $5 million in the wake of a 2013 joke on his show that was reiterated on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. At the time, Trump was insisting President Obama was not born in the USA, and Trump wanted Obama to prove otherwise. Maher said on air that he’d give Trump $5 million if he could prove he wasn’t the descendant of an orangutan.


Trump’s lawyers sent his birth certificate to Maher and demanded the $5 million, which Maher did not pay. Then, after filing a breach of contract in California superior court – complete with a copy of his New York birth certificate – Trump dropped the effort before it could get to trial. Asked about the case, Trump’s attorney Garten said only that “it was withdrawn pretty quickly.”

In 2006, Trump sued journalist Timothy L. O’Brien over his book “TrumpNation.” At the time Trump said he was worth $5 billion or $6 billion, but O’Brien, now an Executive Editor at Bloomberg, wrote the figure was no more than $250 million.

Above and beyond his lawsuits, there are his cease and desists, like this one to the writer of "his" book The Art of the Deal:
http://abovethelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Greenblatt-Letter-to-Schwartz-Redaction.pdf


And this one to the Club for Growth for the grievous injury of quoting something that he said:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...bForGrowth.pdf


Trump is the type of statist who uses government as a weapon against his opponents. He's done that as a private citizen, and if elected he would continue to do so.

[TheCount]

People saw trump deal with a wide variety of people on a television series for 8 years.

This is going to blow your mind, but television is edited.

So again, He says things, and so does the media, but the media, and people like you, say things forgetting he was observed for quite a while in a business like setting. Competitions were often judged by him. I am sure DNC operative are combing his shows like crazy, adn some grad student in ethnic oppression studies is putting together a meta-statistical that will see if he had any inclinations towards groups with higher percentages of white people in them durign competitions, and I am sure we will here soon the numbers prove he was racist... but again...

People know emotions, not statistics.

Yer poop dont fly the bird, son. The bird flies the poop.

You wrote a whole bunch of words that mean nothing and have no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand besides perhaps a banal airing of alt-right grievances.

In Trump's own words, he deserves a judge favorable to him because he believes that any judge of hispanic heritage, regardless of their country of origin, would be unfair to him. This is Trump's argument, not mine. If we remove all races against which Trump has said things which may be considered negative, who is left?

Should women be entitled to a female judge because they feel that a man would be unfavorable?

Should blacks be entitled to a black judge because they feel that any other would be unfavorable?


This is the kind of stupidity that Trump is advancing in his arguments in that case.

[UWDude]

This is going to blow your mind, but television is edited.

His choices weren't. I think very few people thought he chose contest winners based on race. Ther ewas usually a contest a week, we are talking about 250 samples for people to see.

You wrote a whole bunch of words that mean nothing and have no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand besides perhaps a banal airing of alt-right grievances.

well there is the first alt-right I get. and to think everybody was calling me a SJW and SJWDude a year ago. I guess I am alt-rigth now. The resident Occupy/SJW/Alt-right guy. You got me pegged bro.

In Trump's own words, he deserves a judge favorable to him because he believes that any judge of hispanic heritage, regardless of their country of origin, would be unfair to him. This is Trump's argument, not mine. If we remove all races against which Trump has said things which may be considered negative, who is left?

Should women be entitled to a female judge because they feel that a man would be unfavorable?

Should blacks be entitled to a black judge because they feel that any other would be unfavorable?

Maybe? I don't see why not.

[TheCount]

His choices weren't. I think very few people thought he chose contest winners based on race. Ther ewas usually a contest a week, we are talking about 250 samples for people to see.

Are you genuinely saying that you think reality shows are real? You think that those were his choices? You don't think that the contestants are preselected and the winner largely prearranged? You're blowing my mind.

well there is the first alt-right I get. and to think everybody was calling me a SJW and SJWDude a year ago. I guess I am alt-rigth now. The resident Occupy/SJW/Alt-right guy. You got me pegged bro.

I didn't say that you were alt-right. I said that you were airing alt-right grievances.

Maybe? I don't see why not.

[jmdrake]

Your evidence that he doesn't think Snowden should be executed is a quote of him saying that Snowden should be executed?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheCount again.

[jmdrake]

Alright, I tried to be nice.

For the third time, I didn't say that. Somebody else on this thread did.

How many more times am I going to have to tell you?

I'm sorry, but weren't you the one that asked the question of whether Trump was more for the rule of law than Hilary? The question itself implies that Trump is at least partially for the rule of law.

[UWDude]

Are you genuinely saying that you think reality shows are real?

No

You think that those were his choices?

YES, have you learned nothing about who calls the shots when Trump is around?

You don't think that the contestants are preselected and the winner largely prearranged?

Not on his show.

You're blowing my mind.

Free high

I didn't say that you were alt-right. I said that you were airing alt-right grievances.

Nice save?

I'm sorry, but weren't you the one that asked the question of whether Trump was more for the rule of law than Hilary? The question itself implies that Trump is at least partially for the rule of law.

For the fourth time. No.

And in case you want to ask a fifth time, NO.

And if you want to ask a sixth time.... ..get bent.

[nikcers]

I just can't pretend like this guy doesn't exist. This guy exists, he said this. This isn't redeemable in my book.

“Well, I think her history is far from being over. I’d like to answer that question in another 15 years from now. I think she is going to go down at a minimum as a great senator. I think she is a great wife to a president. And I think Bill Clinton was a great president.” Trump continued, “You know you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean, we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell. You know people get jealous and they hate you.”

[TheCount]

YES, have you learned nothing about who calls the shots when Trump is around?

If he were such a great decision maker and always in charge, then his campaign would have put out his platform and policies at the beginning and they would have remained steady throughout. Instead, his campaign has been a hot mess. This is fundamentally inconsistent with Trump being the person that you think he is.

It seems to me that Trump, like many long-haired blondes, repeats whatever's been said to him most recently.

[UWDude]

If he were such a great decision maker and always in charge, then his campaign would have put out his platform and policies at the beginning and they would have remained steady throughout. Instead, his campaign has been a hot mess. This is fundamentally inconsistent with Trump being the person that you think he is.

what makes you think his campaign is a hot mess? I keep telling you, he is going to win in a landslide.
Did it ever occur to you, he plotted out his whole campaign, the whole narrative? Do you think you are smarter than him?
Did it ever occur to you, as unimpressed as you were with the ducks proving Clinton violated FEC fundign laws, a felony, that his hiring of project Veritas was just one ace?
He is a well read man. He read all the books on Clinton. He is also a well connected man, and has the strangest of friends. those who never really did fit in with the elite.
He has given the world, the opportunity, to embarrass themselves, to flesh them out from those who know the truth, and those who eat lies.
His campaign, is just fine.

When are you going to learn, the whole damn thing is rigged? The polls are rigged, the media is rigged, the debates are rigged, the elctronic voting machines are rigged, the elections are rigged?

So stupid trump, multi-multi millionaire stupid trump. Wimpy trump. lazy pajama wearin ice cream eatin trump, decided to win the election, by running a standard professional campaign? We are talking about Donald trump. This is going to be the best campaign. You won't even hear of any other campaigns after this campaign. It will be entertaining, it will be titillating, and the elite will be humiliated, forced to choke on their hubris. And the people will finally see a champion, for them.

Don't tie your ego to your hatred of trump. It's going to hurt if you do.

You will see very soon. You think it is all coincidences.

I don't believe in coincidences.

It is clearly a conspiracy.