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    Is Justin Amash going to run for president in 2020?

    He's dropped a few subtle clues.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    He's dropped a few subtle clues.
    He might.. I'm not sure if he can garner enough support though. I'd support his candidacy if he were to run.
    I hope we won't get another situation where there's spoiler for our candidate such as Cruz this time. He really screwed us over, we should never forget that! Once a traitor, always a traitor. I don't think Amash would be in that camp, even though he's a lawyer, he's actually a decent human being... I like him.
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    I would vote for Justin Amash for president in a heart beat.

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    Running against Trump in 2020 would be a bad idea and I would guess he would wait until 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Running against Trump in 2020 would be a bad idea and I would guess he would wait until 2024.
    Do you actually believe that Trump is going to win?
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Wonder if he has considered running for Governor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    Do you actually believe that Trump is going to win?
    Yes.
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    It seems pretty likely that he is thinking about it and I would bet he will run. Being able to defend his House seat and raising funds would be the only things that would be hang ups.

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    I'd support him no problem, but his best path may be through the VP. If the GOP wants to rebuild long term, the Executive branch needs good VPs who go on to run for P.
    I dont think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president, he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. Hes the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    He's dropped a few subtle clues.
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    I would hope not, that would be the dumbest thing he could do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I would hope not, that would be the dumbest thing he could do.
    Why is that?

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    He might run. I don't see how he could pull it off. libertarians are a minority in the party even though others can be sold on a candidate. You need a coalition to pull it off, I don't see Justin appealing to social cons, or other groups enough to win. Especially with Ted Cruz in the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Why is that?
    Because he doesn't have the gravity for that. Because the chances of him getting elected are minuscule. Because he doesn't have a machine and network that can get him there. Because he won't be taken seriously. Because Members of the House do not run for President and win. Because he would need to become more established in the eyes of the voting public before announcing a run.


    If he were to announce a run for US Senate, then hell yeah, that might be a smart thing he could do (he risks losing his House seat though) assuming it were possible for a Republican to win a seat from Michigan. Otherwise he should stay put because he is in the best place he can be for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    If Trump gets trounced like I think he will, maybe Republicans would want to nominate someone who's basically the exact opposite of Trump next time, which would be someone like Amash.
    That would be nice. But most people think Paul Ryan is the opposite of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Because he doesn't have the gravity for that. Because the chances of him getting elected are minuscule. Because he doesn't have a machine and network that can get him there. Because he won't be taken seriously. Because Members of the House do not run for President and win. Because he would need to become more established in the eyes of the voting public before announcing a run.


    If he were to announce a run for US Senate, then hell yeah, that might be a smart thing he could do (he risks losing his House seat though) assuming it were possible for a Republican to win a seat from Michigan. Otherwise he should stay put because he is in the best place he can be for a while.
    Well, either him or Rand needs to run in 2020. We need to have a voice for liberty in the debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That would be nice. But most people think Paul Ryan is the opposite of Trump.
    Well, Paul Ryan is less authoritarian than Trump. But I think either Rand or Amash could make the case in 2020 that the GOP needs to go in a completely different direction and actually nominate someone who appeals to younger people and minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Well, either him or Rand needs to run in 2020. We need to have a voice for liberty in the debates.
    Yeah we need someone. I just don't think Amash giving up his house seat is the answer.
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    I give it a 50-50 chance.
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    I'm 99.9% sure one of Rand, Massie or Amash will run, I just am debating with myself which one

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    under what party? Libertarian is now a viable choice. and anyone running for president must win statewide office. Congressmen don't win. only Lincoln had been a congressman as his highest office. Ron tried, Kemp tried. Governor of MI is open in 2018. serve one term, and then step down and run in 2024. Jimmy Carter did this. so did Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'd support him no problem, but his best path may be through the VP. If the GOP wants to rebuild long term, the Executive branch needs good VPs who go on to run for P.
    Why would Bill Kristol choose Amash for VP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    I'm 99.9% sure one of Rand, Massie or Amash will run, I just am debating with myself which one
    Have all three run. All three have compelling stories, and can bring up the positive attributes of the other if asked to attack one of said others.

    Additionally, unlike Gary Johnson in 2012, each of the three can reasonably articulate a libertarian message. For further bonus points, it may push Rand towards libertarianism rather than the GOP establishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Well, either him or Rand needs to run in 2020. We need to have a voice for liberty in the debates.
    Uh no.... Rand will not be successful next time either without taking a massive turn to mimic his father in certain ways. And knowing Rand, I am betting that he has no intentions to ever run for President again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Have all three run. All three have compelling stories, and can bring up the positive attributes of the other if asked to attack one of said others.

    Additionally, unlike Gary Johnson in 2012, each of the three can reasonably articulate a libertarian message. For further bonus points, it may push Rand towards libertarianism rather than the GOP establishment.
    Agreed. Get all three into the race. They can create a coalition at debates and then, as polls dictate, throw their support to one or the other.

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    He needs to run for Senate or Governor first. Congressmen don't have a high enough profile to win primaries.

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    As others have said, Amash is too green to run for POTUS.

    Rand is the only viable option for 2020.

    And I hope he's willing to run, after the backstabbing he received this cycle from supposed allies.

    If not, we'll have to more or less sit out 2020 and focus on Senate and Gubernatorial races.

    ...which should get more attention than they do, in any event.
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    Amash has more experience than Rand, as he was in the state legislature before the house. he is also a veteran and a lawyer, but he needs statewide win. as would Massie. Rand has the name, but I don't think his heart is in it. he pulled the plug early this time.

    whoever tuns has to seek both the GOP and Libertarian nomination , ideally getting 2 lines, but also to use the Libertarian line as a threat, that would make it impossible for any other GOP candidate to win.

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