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    The 2016 electoral map is rapidly slipping away from Donald Trump

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-donald-trump/

    According to the Fix's electoral vote tracker — an amazing tool that marries Real Clear Politics polling averages in swing states with the electoral map — if the election were held today, Hillary Clinton would win 341 electoral votes to Donald Trump's 197.

    Those totals reflect the fact that Trump's always-narrow path to 270 electoral votes has become a footpath — at best — over the past two weeks or so, dating back to the first presidential debate Sept. 26. Trump has been battered over that time by bad reviews of his debates showings as well as the revelations of lewd sexual talk in a 2005 hot-mic video. His poll numbers have taken a commensurate hit — both nationally and in swing states. That hit is reflected in our weekly update of the Fix electoral map.

    Pennsylvania, which we moved into the “toss-up” category last week, immediately moves back to “lean Democratic.” Of the five polls conducted in the state after the first debate, Clinton had led by four, eight, 12, nine and 10 points; her average lead, according to RealClearPolitics, is now 8.6 points.

    That move is hugely significant for Trump's chances. Taking Pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes out of the “toss-up” category means he would literally need to run the table of the states remaining in that category — and then some — to win.

    We're also making three other moves this week — all benefiting Clinton.

    Arizona now looks more like a “toss-up” than ever. The Real Clear Politics average in the state gives Trump a one-point edge. The last four polls in Arizona have shown Trump leads of two points and four points, a tie and Clinton up two. The last Democrat to carry Arizona at the presidential level was Bill Clinton in 1996 — although he did so with only 46.5 percent of the vote, thanks to the x-factor that was Ross Perot. The Democrat who won Arizona before Clinton? Harry S. Truman — in 1948!

    And we are adding Utah and Indiana to our list of competitive states with ratings of “lean Republican.” Trump has been doing worse than a generic Republican in Utah for months because of Mormon resistance to his candidacy. A Salt Lake Tribune poll conducted before both debates and the “Access Hollywood” tape showed Trump up only nine points. In Indiana, a state that Barack Obama carried in 2008, an independent poll from last week shows Trump with a five-point edge over Clinton.

    We are also keeping our eye on Alaska — yes, Alaska! — because of polling that suggests that the race might well be close. For the moment, however, Alaska remains off our competitive states list. A full list of states we consider potential battlegrounds is below.

    Toss-up (79 electoral votes)

    Arizona (11)*

    Florida (29)

    Ohio (18)

    Nevada (6)

    North Carolina (15)

    Lean Democratic (77 electoral votes)

    Colorado (9)

    Michigan (16)

    Pennsylvania (20)*

    New Hampshire (4)

    New Mexico (5)

    Virginia (13)

    Wisconsin (10)

    Lean Republican (39 electoral votes)

    Georgia (16)

    Indiana (11)*

    Iowa (6)

    Utah (6)*

    * — indicates a move benefiting Clinton



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    LOL yeah sure................. Hillary lost the plot after she blames Russia for leaked emails more to come.


    "an amazing tool that marries Real Clear Politics polling averages in swing states with the electoral map — if the election were held today, Hillary Clinton would win 341 electoral votes to Donald Trump's 197"

    Ah yes you can also toy with that tool to.

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    Maybe if they didn't poll so many Democrats....
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Naughty Zippy

    A 1991 episode where Zippy manages to upset everyone by thinking only of himself.

    (courtesy of cult kids classics)


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    Related:

    The Real Battle, is The Battle For Your Mind.

    You have probably seen the latest example of the media claiming a released presidential poll from NBC and The Wall Street Journal as an example of Hillary Clinton expanding to an 11 point lead in the weekend following the “controversial” leaked tape of Donald Trump.

    The claim is complete and utter nonsense. Here’s the proof.
    See article below:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...utter-nonsense

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    He probably wasted his time in PA, but he could have taken CO if he spent his time there. He should end up with NV and maybe Iowa.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Sort the comments section of that article by "most liked", and take 5 minutes reading the threads.

    1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Maybe if they didn't poll so many Democrats....
    Polls are adjusted or weighted to control for reaching more of a particular demographic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Polls are adjusted or weighted to control for reaching more of a particular demographic.
    They weight them too heavily Democrat, the actual numbers are all there in the post above from zerohedge.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Link indicates that they asked more Dems than Reps but does not show the results were not weighted.

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    The source is Washington Post. They would not want to set a narrative would they? Jeff Bezos donated a lot to the Clinton Foundation and is part of the Clinton Machine. No biased source there.

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    According to all my research; Vermin Supreme wins in a landslide.

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    Wow I didn't know Nov 8th was here and the map is set. Foolish me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    According to all my research; Vermin Supreme wins in a landslide.
    I answered in that poll. They asked if I wanted a free pony.
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Amazing, I never thought I would see David Icke and Zippy in the same production!!
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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