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Thread: Hillary: "You Need to Have a Public and Private Position on Policy"

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    From: tcarrk@hillaryclinton.com
    To: jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com, john.podesta@gmail.com, slatham@hillaryclinton.com, kschake@hillaryclinton.com, creynolds@hillaryclinton.com, bfallon@hillaryclinton.com
    Date: 2016-01-25 00:28
    Subject: HRC Paid Speeches Team, Attached are the flags from HRC’s paid speeches we have from HWA. I put some highlights below.

    There is a lot of policy positions
    that we should give an extra scrub with Policy.

    [highlighting mine, capitalization was there. -presence]


    [Hillary Clinton Remarks at Goldman-Black Rock, 2/4/14]

    []
    CLINTON: You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that's not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed, and he called one of my favorite predecessors, Secretary Seward, who had been the governor and senator from New York, ran against Lincoln for president, and he told Seward, I need your help to get this done. And Seward called some of his lobbyist friends who knew how to make a deal, and they just kept going at it. I mean, politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be.

    But if everybody's watching,
    you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals,
    you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least.
    So, you need both a public and a private position.

    And finally, I think -- I believe in evidence-based decision making. I want to know what the facts are. I mean, it's like when you guys go into some kind of a deal, you know, are you going to do that development or not, are you going to do that renovation or not, you know, you look at the numbers. You try to figure out what's going to work and what's not going to work.
    []

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
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    A post is not same as a thread, this is a different discussion topic. This topic is mainly focussed on fast growing #PAPPOP scandal itself, that thread is about a glorious weave of a lie coverup #AbeMadeMeLie. Just like "if you like your plan, you can keep it" would be a major separate topic from "Obamacare".



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    Basically what Hillary is saying is that she talks out of both sides of her mouth. She speaks with a forked tongue. With both feet in her mouth most of the time.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    I'm afraid I differ from Killary on this one. In both public and private I say "Lock the Clinton bitch up".
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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ouble-standard

    Today, in the latest release of John Podesta emails we get further confirmation of the "double standard", not our phrase, John Podesta's, within Hillary's campaign.

    In an email from Steve Hildebrand, a Democratic political strategist and the deputy national campaign director of Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, to John Podesta, the strategist writes:
    Hillary has got to get away from Washington speak and begin immediately to find an emotional connection to regular Americans. She needs to have a greater understanding of what people and families are going through every day. And, then she needs to find an emotional connection. This has to turn around now. Her speechwriters, ad writers, communication staff – she and President Clinton – all need to cut Washington rhetoric from their vocabularies and all scripts. She also needs to be bold and not be politically calculating. Americans and certainly primary voting Democrats are sick of the Clintons being cautious and calculating.

    She can win this, but she’s got to find a way to connect with voters and stop worrying about Washington pols and press. The American people want to know if she gets them.
    To which Podesta replies:

    Thanks Steve. I am generally trying to get us aiming in the same direction. Bernie has gone decidedly negative and personal and like most things maybe he can get away with it. But we live with a double standard, so I think it's a mistake to follow him down that path.
    Ah yes, the old "double standard" which however the media ignores in exchange for accusations what Trump may or may no thave done 36 years ago.

    And in a separate email, Mandy Grunwald, a Democratic media advisor, when asked whether or not to release one of Hillary's paid Wall Streeet speeches to the public, namely one given to Deutsche Bank in October 2014, responds as follows:

    I worry about going down this road.

    First, the remarks below make it sound like HRC DOESNT think the game is rigged -- only that she recognizes that the public thinks so. They are angry. She isn't.

    Second, once you start looking at speeches, you run smack into Maggie Haberman's report for Politico on HRC's Goldman Sachs speech, in which HRC isn't quoted directly, but described as saying people shouldn't be vilifying Wall Street. Maybe you think the Deutsche Bank speech takes the sting out of the Goldman report -- but I am concerned that the passage below will exacerbate not improve the situation.
    And then there is this admission from the original speech writer:

    I wrote her a long riff about economic fairness and how the financial industry has lost its way, precisely for the purpose of having something we could show people if ever asked what she was saying behind closed doors for two years to all those fat cats.
    And that's why Hillary's relationship with the entity that makes the "American public angry" was never revealed until the Wikileaks release hit last week.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    If you point out your opposing candidate is not populace enough, you might be a socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    If you point out your opposing candidate is not populace enough, you might be a socialist.
    LOL Stop it. Those are her private positions, which have now been made public.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    LOL Stop it. Those are her private positions, which have now been made public.
    My apologies.






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