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    Our best option in Syria at this point is to just get the hell outta there! Under no circumstances should the taxpayers be forced to foot the bill for militants who have killed Americans.

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    It's official. Washington refuses to designate Al Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist organization:

    Why is that? ...
    The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

    The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of US aid, weapons, and training. ...

    For the US to designate HTS now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles to "terrorists," and draw attention to the fact that the U.S. continues to arm Islamist militias in Syria.
    You read that right: The reason the US cannot designate al-Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist group is because that would make the US legally responsible for having supplied a terrorist group with extremely sophisticated weapons and training. The US is arming and training terrorists in Syria, but instead of just getting out it is pretending that al-Qaeda is not a terrorist organization.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    It's official. Washington refuses to designate Al Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist organization:

    Why is that? ...
    The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

    The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of US aid, weapons, and training. ...

    For the US to designate HTS now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles to "terrorists," and draw attention to the fact that the U.S. continues to arm Islamist militias in Syria.
    You read that right: The reason the US cannot designate al-Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist group is because that would make the US legally responsible for having supplied a terrorist group with extremely sophisticated weapons and training. The US is arming and training terrorists in Syria, but instead of just getting out it is pretending that al-Qaeda is not a terrorist organization.
    MoonofAlabama elaborates:
    As long as HTS is not designated as terrorist group the CIA, and anyone else, can supply it with weapons and money without using any "Free Syrian Army" cut-outs in-between. The cut-out scheme was used and had well worked when many groups like the Zenki Brigade ... delivered the CIA supplies as tribute to Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS or fought battles on their side. But the number of FSA groups has dwindled ... or have joined either al-Nusra (in form of HTS) or the competing Ahrar al-Sham .... A direct supply line to al-Qaeda is more convenient and will incur less losses along the way.

    As long as HTS is not officially designated it will likely continue to have access to CIA delivered TOW anti-tank missiles and other heavy supplies like artillery munition. It will continue to prepare for new attacks on Syrian government forces and Syrian civilians. ...

    So by Washington keeping Al Qaeda off Washington's terrorist list, its just so much easier to arm and fund and supply them directly, instead of using roundabout channels through intermediaries.



    And this is a good place to plug the Gabbard's Stop Arming Terrorists Act.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 05-15-2017 at 09:13 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul.
    "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne
    "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    From: Jake Sullivan
    To: Hillary Clinton

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    AQ is on our side in Syria.



    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2339A
    18 U.S. Code ß 2339A - Providing material support to terrorists

    .... of course the Law doesn't apply to them...
    Last edited by merkelstan; 05-16-2017 at 03:49 AM.

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    Why Washington Took al-Qaeda in Syria off the Terrorist List
    written by daniel mcadams
    monday may 15, 2017
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    It might come as a surprise to many Americans that their government does not classify al-Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist organization. The reason it refuses to make the determination would shock them even more.

    The Syrian franchise of the organization involved in the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington has long gone by the name Jabhat al-Nusra (Nusra Front), and was sent into Syria by the head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Baghdadi went on to launch the rival breakaway group ISIS, while Nusra maintained its status as al-Qaeda's boots on the ground in the war against the Syrian government.

    In 2015 the group decided to re-brand itself Jabhat Fateh al-Sham while, as reported by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, continuing to incorporate smaller organizations into its structure. This is one of the reasons for the failure of last year's cessation of hostilities in Syria: the "moderate" fighters and the legitimate terrorists were so inter-mingled that it was impossible for the US to separate them. But the State Department did not buy into the PR makeover of al-Qaeda and designated al-Sham a terrorist organization as well.

    Then, early this year, al-Shams decided on a new rebranding and decided to name itself Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). The leader of the new group is the same old leader, and is listed by the US as a "Specially Designated Global Terrorist" with a $10 million bounty on his head.

    But strangely enough, the US has not designated the new organization a terrorist organization even as it warns off other groups seeking to join the newly branded al-Qaeda in Syria.

    Why is that?

    Again from the Canadian state news agency:
    The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

    The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of US aid, weapons, and training. ...

    For the US to designate HTS now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles to "terrorists," and draw attention to the fact that the U.S. continues to arm Islamist militias in Syria.
    You read that right: The reason the US cannot designate al-Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist group is because that would make the US legally responsible for having supplied a terrorist group with extremely sophisticated weapons and training. The US is arming and training terrorists in Syria, but instead of just getting out it is pretending that al-Qaeda is not a terrorist organization.

    h/t Josh Landis
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That's right.

    ...not something we 2nd amendment supporters want to hear, but right.

    The idea that the 'oi polloi should have the same weaponry as the army is quite insane.

    ...a relic of well intended but irrational Enlightenment thinking about the nature of the people (can't work against their own interests, etc).

    The people should be armed so as to defend themselves from criminals, not so as to overthrow the government,

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    Would be funny if it wasnt true.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    It's official. Washington refuses to designate Al Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist organization:

    Why is that? ...
    The reasons for the reluctance to list the new al-Qaeda formation may have to do with one of its new members, the Nour ed-Dine Zenki Brigade, a jihadi group from the Aleppo governorate.

    The Zenki Brigade was an early and prominent recipient of US aid, weapons, and training. ...

    For the US to designate HTS now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles to "terrorists," and draw attention to the fact that the U.S. continues to arm Islamist militias in Syria.
    You read that right: The reason the US cannot designate al-Qaeda in Syria as a terrorist group is because that would make the US legally responsible for having supplied a terrorist group with extremely sophisticated weapons and training. The US is arming and training terrorists in Syria, but instead of just getting out it is pretending that al-Qaeda is not a terrorist organization.
    Par for the course - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...7-in-Egypt-too
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of the world, submit to them you pigs in human clothing!
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.






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