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"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
James Madison
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
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No, I didn't buy a narrative sold to me by anyone other than the bigots and kooks have co-opted many of the same channels which brought awareness to people of Ron Paul. You'd have to live under a rock or off grid not to be aware of what has transpired. It might be a case of frog in the pot for some, I suppose. This forum used to make some effort in discouraging that type of proselytizing. The virulence here is evident when one has stepped away for a few months and returns. Too many online sites have become toxic wastelands of self pity and hatred for their pet scapegoat.
Your rant against Rand is crap. It's the fool's dream you've been sold. You are deep in the con. You must know Trump personally and have all sorts of insider information or you're getting your info the way the rest of us poor schmucks are getting it. Media is what it is, a business, and they play for the buyers. Now the big money is invested in the con. Your "outsider" candidate has plenty of proof he's a player and you are the means to an end. Trump has been using the middle class all his life and profiting at their expense. Joke is on every middle class fool who supports someone who is as clear as he is about what he thinks of the hoi polloi.
I don't get how folks could be aware of the collusion and backroom deals in politics, the technological advancements in targeting audiences, that there is some serious freaking money in the pockets of those pulling strings, look at the videos and pictures of Trump and Clinton families schmoozing together, and try to keep a straight face while saying they are voting for the outsider candidate, Donald trump.
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No kidding. Once SCOTUS ruled that the preborn do not have a right to life, it pretty much went downhill from there. The value of a life is a game changer. Police now hold the lives of stranded motorists rather cheaply.
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I listen to his own words. He has dug himself a hell of a hole before he even ran this time. He also talks like moron. He parrots AJ talking points. He pimps for literary prizes for bird cage liner joke rags. He lies as often as breathing. He talks about his wealth and his attractiveness, both poor form and evidence of having neither because you must self promote. He's vulgar and cruel. Msm didn't need to point that out. All someone has to do is listen to him and evaluate his past behavior.
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Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
Your post is not talking about what I was pointing out. We are discussing media coverage and whether it always has a good impact.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
James Madison
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
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ok so what is your answer for your pet scapegoat?
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
James Madison
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
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Where do you think one reads his words or watches his narrative at? He doesn't need the media to give their opinion. All that needs to be done is print his words or give him enough rope on camera. This is the context by which many who oppose him have drawn their conclusion. Then for this facet of society, they are told to vote Clinton.
The favorable context people view him in is a typical old timers parenting trick. Whatever you do, don't vote for this guy. He is such an outsider. None of the establishment likes him. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
The house does not lose...
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
Name my scapegoat. I'm just as guilty of some of this current nonsense as any other citizen who has complied and or voted in some of these scoundrels. But I'm choosing not to entertain the theory of turning back society to some white supremacist wet dream of authoritarian control. As I see it, nowhere to run to, Nowhere to hide. So...I am working on rearing a future generation of non-conformists. I'll deal with what is being shoved down my throat as it comes at me.
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
We could start by actually using church discipline on those who agree to "wear a badge" for this wicked God-forsaken (mean that literally not as a third commandment violation) country. I'm sure your church would but the vast majority wont. My parents' Calvinistic baptist church even has one as an elder.
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So how 'bout 'em watch lists?
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GunnyFreedom again.Sure it is, and it's easy to demonstrate, but I think he's regressed a bit and not ready to hear that yet. He's lost his conviction, so following after the model of my faith, conviction has to be restored before education can resume, yes? I think by stacking all that burden onto the choice, it just makes it harder for him to make the painful choice. I think maybe if he decides first that 'yes, participating in any unlawful gun confiscation is evil' then it will be easier to demonstrate how that will become universal after the decision is made that it is indeed evil.
This is a lesson that I have been trying to pound into Republicans since the day I got involved, and I have actually had some (limited) success. "Never give your man a power that you do not want your enemy to have, because your man will not be in power forever." I was able to point of a lot of Obama abuses of GWB's holes in the firewall to make that point. I think one possibly beneficial thing about a Trump Presidency would be after he gets put out in 2020 and some Dem rapes the government Trump left behind, come 2024 there may be riots in the streets in favor of REAL reform. The question is can we survive 8 years of that madness? I have to be honest with myself and say that we have already survived a lot more than I had expected, so I can't put the odds better than 30% that we won't. So if I'm at 70% that America survives the coming hell, if Trump wins, I'll expect a major Dem kneejerk in 2020, and I'll plan for exploding outrage in 2024. How do we channel that exploding outrage into a Constitutionalist reformer and not allow another jackass like Trump to steal the thunder we built?
It's because the liberty movement has heretofore largely been more reactive than proactive I think. I was pressing local races in 2004 with an eye to build from the bottom up until our platform was 'the normal' and then hit higher offices. It's a point I have been trying to make consistently the entire time I have been involved with the liberty movement. It's the reason I ran for State House int he first place and 'accidentally' won.
Had we actually all worked offices from the ground up starting in 2007, then 2016 would have been almost a given for us. We are not the squirrel planning ahead and saving away for the winter, we are the over-excited dog that wants to chase the squirrel. We have another opportunity in 2024 that will be an enormous opportunity for us. If Hillary wins, we will have the same opportunity but a bit lesser and a lot more out of balance in 2020. If we want to actually make something happen, we need to anticipate what will happen 4 or 8 years ahead, and put ourselves into a position to capture the disenfranchised.
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"ideas have the potential of being more powerful than any army....The concept of personal sovereignty was pulled screaming from the ether into this reality by the force of men believing in a self evident truth, that men are meant to be free." - The Northbreather
"Trump is the security blanket of aggrieved white men aged 18-60." - Pinoy
Just shut the $#@! up already. $#@! Trump. $#@! the CURRENT gun controlled state and those that want more government control. Hey, are ya on a "no-fly" list? Might not even know if you were. Because some few strokes of a key board may have put your there. Trump wouldn't want you to by a gun from Bass-Pro (Lol.). $#@! due process. Right? Just shut the $#@! up already. Trumpcuckers are such pro-government shills it's embarrassing to think that others have to read their bull$#@! when they post on this forum.
He turned away from the Republicans after the Iraq war. I think he's always kept his true feelings hidden. The one thing that's certain is that he loves his country. That can't be said of anyone since Reagan, also a former Democrat.
Why so vulgar? That's usually a sign of low intelligence.
72 hours might be a little tight for me to show up for my defense. Let alone conduct a procedure for civil discovery for the charges against me. Are you for real? Been here since 2010 and cannot grasp this simple concept?
Oh, lolol, the NRA? Really? Most gun owners have ditched the Fed organization that is the NRA. Catch up Mr. Bass-Pro.
I'm an ex-sailor. Sue me. Do you need a safe space?
This is the only part of your post I can support. No one should have their constitutional rights stripped away without the right to defend himself to a jury of his peers.
More so than supporting Trump? Hmmm.
Chris
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"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
You'd think someone from 2007 would have gotten that message by now.
Yes.
I would like another one.
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"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Trying to wean you off. They can be addictive.
As usual, you certainly deliver! A true crusader for all that is right and good! Never change Phil, never change.
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Exactly. Mittens tried to take Libs for granted and got Obama as his president. Drumpf wants to do the same. Interesting that he actively courts Bernie's supporters so bad but ignores Libertarians. Clinton and Trump are two skidmarks on the same dirty pair of underwear. As a Lib, I will freely admit to wanting the GOP to implode simply so that a viable party can be created that isn't run by Chickenhawks, Wall $t pinheads and the Israel lobby. Trump's nomination shows that we're nearly there. If it takes another 8 years to get there, I'm good with it.
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