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Thread: Tulsa, OK : Unarmed Man's Vehicle Breaks Down, Police on Nearby Call Shoot Him Dead

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    Tulsa, OK : Unarmed Man's Vehicle Breaks Down, Police on Nearby Call Shoot Him Dead

    "Failed to comply with officer commands" ...

    the holster sniffers are already playing up the "accidental discharge/mistook the pistol for her taser" angle ...

    Just another tragic accident -- that could have been avoided if he had simply been more compliant/respectful ...


    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local...6d304be9e.html

    Graphic video: Tulsa Police footage from fatal shooting of unarmed Terence Crutcher


    Posted: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:15 pm



    Update: Tulsa Police have released footage of the fatal shooting of Terence Crutcher following a Monday afternoon news conference. Watch here.

    Tulsa Police at a news conference Monday about the fatal shooting of Terence Crutcher said he did not have a weapon on his person or in his vehicle.

    The fatal shooting occurred after officers responding to an unrelated call spotted 40-year-old Crutcher's vehicle stalled near 36th Street North and Lewis Avenue on Friday evening. Police have released few details of what happened, but a spokeswoman said Crutcher refused to follow officers' commands in the moments before the shot was fired.

    One officer, identified as Tyler Turnbough, deployed his Taser, and the second, Betty Shelby, discharged her weapon at Crutcher, who was pronounced dead at a hospital. Shelby was placed on paid administrative leave following the shooting.

    Police video and audio of the shooting was released to the media following the news conference, a day after police showed it to the Crutcher family and a group of north Tulsa pastors and community leaders.

    Chief Chuck Jordan said he found the video "very disturbing — very difficult to watch."

    He also explained some of the basic facts, including that no gun was found on Crutcher or in his vehicle. He did not elaborate because of what he called a pending criminal investigation.

    "It will come out," Jordan said of the details surrounding the fatal shooting. "I will make this promise to you: We will achieve justice in this case."

    Last edited by SeanTX; 09-19-2016 at 02:13 PM.



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    Heroes.
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    wow. It didn't look like a struggle or anything. and what is that weird backing up at the end?

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    Just another day in police state AmeriKa.

    Move the $#@! along comrades.

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    Just another day in police state AmeriKa.

    Move the $#@! along comrades.

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    Latest news : PCP found inside the vehicle.

    therefore, they just HAD to shoot him ...

    good shoot ...

    move along ...

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local...cfb22b246.html
    Last edited by SeanTX; 09-20-2016 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanTX View Post
    Latest news : PCP found inside the vehicle.

    therefore, they just HAD to shoot him ...

    good shoot ...

    move along ...

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local...cfb22b246.html

    Like I said earlier, Heroes.
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    I would like to see the earlier footage. He was over by the police car and then was walking back to his own car. What happened? Why would they think someone with a broken down car was in need of tasing, much less shooting?

    Tasers need to be taken away from them. They use them way too carelessly.
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    One officer, identified as Tyler Turnbough, deployed his Taser, and the second, Betty Shelby, discharged her weapon at Crutcher,
    Why did he opt for the taser? The suspect wasn't even handcuffed.

    Some retraining might be in order.
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    They will call it "tunnel vision". The first officer on the scene had her gun out. The next guy assumed he needed to pull his taser. Nervous Nelly Itchy Finger was further agitated by second officer pulling taser and fired her weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    I would like to see the earlier footage. He was over by the police car and then was walking back to his own car. What happened? Why would they think someone with a broken down car was in need of tasing, much less shooting?

    Tasers need to be taken away from them. They use them way too carelessly.
    I figured after a while there was "more to the story" than it seemed at first (there often times is). I think one witness claimed he said something about how he had to leave his vehicle because "it's gonna blow up."

    So maybe it was some PCP-induced impairment that made him unable to "follow commands."

    Of course just simply having that in his vehicle justifies killing him (or a DUI from 1997 ... or ... whatever) ...

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    There is more to the story. The man was no victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    There is more to the story. The man was no victim.
    Yes there is,
    Cop is arrested and charged (manslaughter)

    In a year or so the "trial" will be concluded with little more than a slap on the wrist or Prosecutors will blow it in entirety and she will walk.

    time will tell.
    At least they were not stupid enough to try coverup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    There is more to the story. The man was no victim.
    You're basing this on what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You're basing this on what?
    The gent had a criminal record and the available video is suspicious. Just do what the cop says folks if you feel that they are hair trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    The gent had a criminal record and the available video is suspicious. Just do what the cop says folks if you feel that they are hair trigger.
    Because "OBEY TEH GOOBERMINT" is EXACTLY what this 'liberty' stuff is all about amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    The gent had a criminal record and the available video is suspicious. Just do what the cop says folks if you feel that they are hair trigger.
    Yeah right, do what the cop says.

    Sure helped this poor bastard:



    Cops on a hair trigger are liable to shoot you whether you comply or not.

    You and other cop apologists can shout "comply, comply" all you want, not even bringing up Gunny's remarks which are valid, but the fact of the matter is that compliance is not any guarantee that you will not get shot (or beat or tasered or kicked or assaulted)
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-01-2016 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    The gent had a criminal record and the available video is suspicious. Just do what the cop says folks if you feel that they are hair trigger.
    Or this poor bastard.

    70 y/o white man.

    Was told to get out of the car.

    Got out of the car, got his cane, was shot by the black cop.

    Because expired tags.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paleocon1 View Post
    The gent had a criminal record and the available video is suspicious. Just do what the cop says folks if you feel that they are hair trigger.
    Or this poor bastard.

    80 y/o with no criminal record.

    Gunned down in his own home, asleep.

    But I guess copsuckers expect you to comply in your dreams.


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    Or this poor bastard.

    Wrong guy.

    In his bed.

    But hey, just comply, right?

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-01-2016 at 05:39 PM.

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    Shall I go on, and on, and on, and on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Shall I go on, and on, and on, and on?
    Well, gotta break a few eggs, to make an Officer Safety omelette
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    So, someone one starred the thread.

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    So, is it just me, or has someone else noticed how when people decide to support Trump, a majority of them turn into copsuckers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    So, is it just me, or has someone else noticed how when people decide to support Trump, a majority of them turn into copsuckers?
    He appeals to that law and order, lock 'em up and throw away the key, police are heroes, contingent.

    You want a police state?

    Because this is how you get a police state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So, someone one starred the thread.
    Wasn't me. I gave it two stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He appeals to that law and order, lock 'em up and throw away the key, police are heroes, contingent.

    You want a police state?

    Because this is how you get a police state.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    So, is it just me, or has someone else noticed how when people decide to support Trump, a majority of them turn into copsuckers?
    No, it's not just you. There are some exceptions but it seems to be a trend.

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