Trump Outlines Child-Care as a "Right"

[CaptUSA]

Making America Great Again!!

So nobody questions the source, this is straight from the jackass' mouth:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...hild-care-plan

The Trump Plan Will Empower Parents and Achieve the Following Goals:

1. Help every family with the costs of childcare and eldercare.
2. Empower families to choose the care that is right for their family.
3. Create a new, dynamic market for family-based and community-based solutions.
4. Incentivize employers to provide childcare at the workplace.
5. Provide 6 weeks of paid leave to new mothers before returning to work.

Yay! This is obviously a role of the federal government which will have absolutely zero negative impacts! And since it's paid for by eliminating Waste, Fraud, and Abuse like all of his other spending increases, it's going to be free!!!

So glad we finally have a candidate that is pushing conservative values.

[silverhandorder]

I agree. Still voting for him.

[John F Kennedy III]

I agree. Still voting for him.

Gross.

[dean.engelhardt]

I agree. Still voting for him.

I might be missing context; you agree that childcare is a right?

[specsaregood]

I feel safer greater already.

[Pizzo]

Only globalists and SJW's don't want the government to force employers to run their business...wait, what?

[alucard13mm]

Or... how about not having kids if you cannot afford to. If you are too lazy or not sucessful in life... maybe you should not pass on your genes.

[silverhandorder]

There are three reasons I am voting for Trump.

1. He is loyal to his people.
2. He has good judgement.
3. He wants to put national interests above global power plays.

There is a lot I am willing to forgive for that. Also until he came along I didn't even want to vote anymore. I have become convinced voting don't matter.

[specsaregood]

Only globalists and SJW's don't want the government to force employers to run their business...wait, what?

clearly this is his master plan to put all those illegal immigrant nannies out of business.

[tod evans]

This'll maybe get a few of the "womens rights" folks on his bandwagon.

The ones who don't actually think about real world application of such nonsense...

[CCTelander]

Only globalists and SJW's don't want the government to force employers to run their business...wait, what?

You forgot "bleeding heart leftists," "Hillary shills" and "social marxists." Clearly anyone not voting for Trump must be one of those.

[Pizzo]

You forgot "bleeding heart leftists," "Hillary shills" and "social marxists." Clearly anyone not voting for Trump must be one of those.

Yes, of course. How could I forget.

[CaptUSA]

There are three reasons I am voting for Trump.

1. He is loyal to his people.
2. He has good judgement.
3. He wants to put national interests above global power plays.

There is a lot I am willing to forgive for that. Also until he came along I didn't even want to vote anymore. I have become convinced voting don't matter.

1. All authoritarians are loyal to those who are loyal to them. But do something that conflicts with his vision and see how loyal he will be.
2. Great judgment like his pick in VP, like his failed business ventures, like his marriages, like his policy positions, like his...
3. Nationalism is NOT greater than globalism. In fact, it's often worse and damage is done more rapidly. Individualism, or at least localism, is preferable to both.


But you have bought the con already. So you will discount all other evidence. I hope when the con is finally revealed that you are still able to have some semblance of independent judgment. My guess is that you will continue to try to justify the boot on your neck.

[dannno]

I might be missing context; you agree that childcare is a right?

No, he feels he will end up with the greatest amount of liberty in the long run with that option.

[asurfaholic]

The Trump Plan Will Empower Parents and Achieve the Following Goals:

1. Help every family with the costs of childcare and eldercare.
- At who's expense? Proof that Trump is a socialist.
2. Empower families to choose the care that is right for their family.
- Families already have this ability. My own childcare setup is proof of that. My wife and I have very irregular schedules that conflic with traditional childcare hours and service availability. We work with people in our church so that our kids always have someone watching them on the early mornings, late evenings and weekends that we work.

3. Create a new, dynamic market for family-based and community-based solutions.
- Socialist in republican clothes. If there was a need, the market would have already adjusted.

4. Incentivize employers to provide childcare at the workplace.
- Socialist plan is socialist. Trump once again shows that he is not actually a "great businessman" because if he was, he would understand that this would be a death blow for small businesses. Large companies would also suffer. It's a cost that is not fair to the employer or employees. TRUMP shows again and again he does. It unsertand basic economics.

5. Provide 6 weeks of paid leave to new mothers before returning to work.
At whose expense?

Trump shows again and again he is not pro free markets, !3 is not pro American jobs, he is a dictator in disguise.

[asurfaholic]

No, he feels he will end up with the greatest amount of liberty in the long run with that option.

He said in his post "I agree."

[CPUd]

Under this plan, everyone gets a Mexican nanny, and he will make Mexico pay for it!

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump Outlines Child-Care as a "Right"

It's the Ivanka Trump initiative. Shall we call it TrumpCare or IvankaCare?

[Brian4Liberty]

This is insanity. Sorry, "childcare" is a luxury item. If the family can not take care of it's own children, then they must have enough money to pay others to do it. Since when is having a nanny a right?

Combine this with their desire to pay babysitters a living wage, and it's economically ridiculous. If a parent makes 50k a year, and they must pay the babysitter 50k a year, the numbers don't make any sense. With all of the taxes, it's a loss (parents must pay gross, but income is net). It's a luxury item because it's based on the fact that the family has enough excess money to afford the nanny.

A plan for the poor, created by the mega-wealthy. "The poor are hungry? Let them eat cake."

[tod evans]

Why do you hate women?

[timosman]

I am sure the financing of this program will come from all the budget cuts he is proposing.

[CPUd]

[Chester Copperpot]

still voting for trump too... doesnt matter

[juleswin]

Who would have thought that a North eastern, johnny come lately to conservative party, Rockefeller republican would propose a liberal law like this? certainly not me. I was expecting Ron Paul on steroids when you told me his background.

[JK/SEA]

could take some of that money we pay for abortions and transfer it to child care...

not a deal breaker with me on Trumps 'idea'....

[dannno]

He said in his post "I agree."

Right, he agrees with the OP that Trump is wrong about this issue.. but despite that he is still voting for him because he believes in the long run that option will get him the greatest amount of liberty.

[juleswin]

could take some of that money we pay for abortions and transfer it to child care...

not a deal breaker with me on Trumps 'idea'....

Your math must be way off if you think the one time payment of about $3000 to eliminate pregnancies would make a dent in child care financing. If anything, taking away that money would make the problem a 1000x worse. I rather be forced to pay someone a one time fee on about $3000 to voluntarily go ahead with an abortion than to be forced to pay the life time cost of about 250k needed to raise a child to 18 yrs via welfare. Also consider that the payment may not even stop after they turn 18, they may end up needing welfare for the rest of their lives.

[CaptUSA]

could take some of that money we pay for abortions and transfer it to child care...

not a deal breaker with me on Trumps 'idea'....

Yep. We're going to pay for this increase in government by cutting waste fraud and abuse.
Just like we're going to pay for the increase in military by cutting waste fraud and abuse.
Just like we're going to pay for the increase in infrastructure by cutting waste fraud and abuse.

You know, at some point, you'd think you'd have to accept that government spending IS waste fraud and abuse. You can't decrease WFA by increasing government programs.

Sad to see what has become of liberty people with Trump-on-the-brain. The ultimate con job - convincing people opposed to your opponent's ideas that the same ideas with a different messenger are better.

[fcreature]

Guess those of us not for this are just purists.

[CPUd]

There will be competition! And lines around the states!