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    Minnesota gun buyback program a dud, some legal owners say

    A Minneapolis gun buyback program targeting weapons used in street crimes may be shooting blanks, as detractors said a Saturday collection mostly took in antiquated, unused or homemade arms from legal owners and did little to thin the firearm supply actually available to dangerous criminals.

    Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

    And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.

    One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.

    “I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.

    Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.

    “A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.

    A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”

    The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.

    One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.

    Guns gathered during the Saturday buyback were set to be decommissioned and used in an art piece.


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29...wners-say.html



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    Nice getting $100 for a piece of wood taped to a pipe.
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    Crime went down on Sunday, so these programs work.
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    One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.
    LMAO! He even put a serial number on the damn thing.


    He should've used Fiber Fix, though.
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    2x4 and pipe gun buy back is anarchist expropriation at its finest

    lol

    the only thing this will ever attract is people with $#@!ty guns worth less than the buy back that are looking to upgrade

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    Sorry for littering your thread, p4p, but I just wanted to give oyarde the heads up.

    If you lived in a violent area, would you give up your gun for a free pizza? I sure wouldn't.

    Pizza for pistols? Indianapolis restaurant wants to give free pies for guns

    An Indianapolis pizzeria wants to trade pepperoni pies for the pistol in your pocket.

    D & C Pizza restaurant owner Donald Dancy is currently working on a plan with local police that's a twist on a typical gun buyback program--patrons could get a free extra-large pizza in exchange for a gun.

    “When you pass here right off of 36th and go all of the way down to 25th street and over, it is like a war zone. It is not getting any better,” Dancy told FOX 59 last week. “I can see kids 14 through 18 coming in here and buying a pizza and their guns fall out.”

    Multiple attempts from FoxNews.com to reach Dancy at the restaurant were unsuccessful.

    But it’s easy to see why he would feel compelled to help the community-- 2015 was the deadliest year in the city’s history with a total of 144 criminal homicides, according to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department. That's an increase from 138 in 2014 and just one more than the previous all-time high of 143 in 1998.

    But if the numbers are disturbing, the statistics that underlie it are worse. Thirteen of the victims were below the age of 18 and 14 of the suspects were also juveniles. There was also a jump in the amount of nonfatal shootings in the city. That figure increased 24 percent to 447, up from 361 in 2014. It’s also the first time the number rose past 400 in four years.

    In 2014 the city ranked ninth out of America’s Top Ten Murder Capitols. Indiana also has the highest rate of black homicide victims in the country, according to a study conducted by the national nonprofit Violence Policy Center. The report, which utilizes FBI homicide data to rank states according to their black homicide victimization rates, said there were 213 black homicide victims in Indiana in 2013 or 34.15 victims per 100,000. That’s double the national black homicide rate. The Center says the overwhelming majority of these were committed with guns, usually hand guns.

    The IMPD says that nearly 29 percent of the murders in 2015 were known to be drug related while 28 percent took place within one of the six locations known to be home to a disproportionate amount of crime.

    D & C Pizza, located at 38th Street and Sherman Drive, is in one of those six areas.

    Similar attempts to get guns of the street in the area, however, have had mixed results. Bishop Damon Roach of First Christian Baptist Church worked with the Marion County Sheriff’s Department in 2013 and 2014 to collect illegal guns, FOX 59 reported. The church used donations, paying up to $600 in exchange for a weapon. But church was vandalized and set on fire after the program. Roach is now concerned that could happen to other businesses trying similar tactics to get guns off the streets-- but isn’t totally opposed to trying again.

    “First Christian would gladly open our doors to get guns off of the streets and will volunteer money to get guns off of the streets. I think that it is more of a movement now then it was three years ago,” Roach said.

    If the plan is approved, Dancy said he would keep the guns in a safe place until they were picked up by police. Still, despite already having coupons printed for the weapon exchange, D & C Pizza won’t be able to collect any guns just yet. They still need to have a meeting and organize a collection process with the IMPD and the Marion County Sheriff’s Department.
    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/...pies-for-guns/
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Maybe redeemable coupons for $500 worth of pizza. Not gonna trade a gun for one pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Sorry for littering your thread, p4p, but I just wanted to give oyarde the heads up.

    If you lived in a violent area, would you give up your gun for a free pizza? I sure wouldn't.



    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/...pies-for-guns/
    I don't think Injuns are allowed to own gun, at least not in casinos here in MN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't think Injuns are allowed to own gun, at least not in casinos here in MN.
    I'm sure he could fashion one out of some of the things he's "picked up".
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    [QUOTE=Suzanimal;6298937]Sorry for littering your thread, p4p, but I just wanted to give oyarde the heads up.

    If you lived in a violent area, would you give up your gun for a free pizza? I sure wouldn't.


    Yeah , stay South of the Circle or North of 38th . They took the idea from me , I offer free BBQ fall festival in exchange for functional weapons and I never go to the city unless I have to use the airport, LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't think Injuns are allowed to own gun, at least not in casinos here in MN.
    I have never been to an Indian Casino , you should take me for the buffet .

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    There are folks in my circle who have turned in complete junk for the gift cards, which were then used to purchase ammo for the range.

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    I have some realistic looking pellet guns that are broken, I wonder if I could pass one of those off at a buyback event.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I have some realistic looking pellet guns that are broken, I wonder if I could pass one of those off at a buyback event.
    There is some old stock/surplus you might find at a gun show - broken weapons/frames that legally qualify as firearms. Some folks purchase these for artwork.

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    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Ha, the free market system works.

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    LOL
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