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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Under what circumstances would 'anti-racist' be a code word for 'anti-white'?
    I know the question was to someone else, but the answer is: Under no circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotAnIllegalImmigrant View Post
    Sure. And my cousin has a unicorn farm.
    Trolling? I said I know some personally. I'm married to one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    No one is saying "support hate groups".

    What I saying is that the NAZI fools on 4chan/pol/ are an attempt to take control of the liberty movement and drive it off of a cliff.

    The other thing that I am saying is that as long as libertarians lack the balls to completely oppose all things PC then that is something that will continue to happen.
    If they are trying to control our movement, then fight them! Do not join them. And as I said, a lot of what is labeled "PC" these days is a misnomer.

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    The left (and their partners in the mainstream right) is utilizing desperate people to drown us both politically and numerically.
    Then change hearts and minds with kindness. Being against people based on their heritage is not logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    I know the question was to someone else, but the answer is: Under no circumstances.



    Trolling? I said I know some personally. I'm married to one.

    Members of the alt right appear unable to view people as individuals, only as parts of a group. Hence there couldn't possibly be a Latino libertarian.

    Collectivists are like that, after all.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    If they are trying to control our movement, then fight them! Do not join them. And as I said, a lot of what is labeled "PC" these days is a misnomer.
    NAZI idiots can only infiltrate as long as libertarians are too afraid to fight the crusade against political correctness themselves.

    The political correctness of bringing in hundreds of thousands of incompatible refugees is not an example of a "misnomer" - it's an example of a globalist orchestrated invasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Members of the alt right appear unable to view people as individuals, only as parts of a group. Hence there couldn't possibly be a Latino libertarian.

    Collectivists are like that, after all.
    We believe in property rights, right? Where is the moderation? This racism movement (alt-right) could destroy the existence of our ideology of freedom, because sane people would come here, see racism, and then think that this is not a movement for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    NAZI idiots can only infiltrate as long as libertarians are too afraid to fight the crusade against political correctness themselves.
    This does not make sense. The only thing we need to fight is racism, hate, war, and centralization of power. "PC" does not have power, it is abstract. We need to fight things that are real. We can fight racists and social justice warriors. We can fight socialists and communists. Fighting races makes us lower than dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    If they are trying to control our movement, then fight them! Do not join them. And as I said, a lot of what is labeled "PC" these days is a misnomer.



    Then change hearts and minds with kindness. Being against people based on their heritage is not logical.
    It's not their heritage, color or bloodline that scares me. It's their culture. I wouldn't approve the passage of a million Swedes if you asked me. The Swedes have proven that they are not liberty lovers by any stretch of the imagination. The truth is that 99% of the immigration into this country weakens it, since the world is severely infected with bad ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    This does not make sense. The only thing we need to fight is racism, hate, war, and centralization of power. "PC" does not have power, it is abstract. We need to fight things that are real. We can fight racists and social justice warriors. We can fight socialists and communists. Fighting races makes us lower than dogs.
    What do you think that fighting Social Justice Warriors entails?

    It means fighting their entire false concept of everything that they disagree with being "racist" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    What do you think that fighting Social Justice Warriors entails?
    It certainly does not entail becoming a racist or a caricature of what they are against! It means being a rational free thinker.

    I fight racists and SJWs equally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    It's not their heritage, color or bloodline that scares me. It's their culture. I wouldn't approve the passage of a million Swedes if you asked me. The Swedes have proven that they are not liberty lovers by any stretch of the imagination. The truth is that 99% of the immigration into this country weakens it, since the world is severely infected with bad ideas.
    Then instead of fighting America's heritage of allowing people in, lets fight against the bad ideas, and win against the bad ideas with the ideas of liberty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    It certainly does not entail becoming a racist or a caricature of what they are against! It means being a rational free thinker.

    I fight racists and SJWs equally.
    To defeat SJWS you must disarm them, which means destroying the weapons that they employ. That's what this entire Alt Right movement is about. It's about smashing the double standard of Cultural Marxism that actually reinforces the very things that they assail the White Nationalists for doing. An elaborate game is being played at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    Then instead of fighting America's heritage of allowing people in, lets fight against the bad ideas, and win against the bad ideas with the ideas of liberty!
    Letting in unlimited immigrants is a really bad idea right now.

    USA needs to be restored to something that at least somewhat resembles Constitutional government before anything remotely close to that can even be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    To defeat SJWS you must disarm them, which means destroying the weapons that they employ. That's what this entire Alt Right movement is about. It's about smashing the double standard of Cultural Marxism that actually reinforces the very things that they assail the White Nationalists for doing. An elaborate game is being played at the moment.
    I just don't understand what you're saying. If we are for liberty and non-aggression, we need to fight SJWs and racists/white nationalists with equal vigor. They are both disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Letting in unlimited immigrants is a really bad idea right now.

    USA needs to be restored to something that at least somewhat resembles Constitutional government before anything remotely close to that can even be considered.
    I just don't understand your reasoning. It does not make sense to me. We should not become anti-liberty in the pursuit of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    Then instead of fighting America's heritage of allowing people in, lets fight against the bad ideas, and win against the bad ideas with the ideas of liberty!
    What if they don't want liberty? What if material benefits and enhanced group status is what they desire? Humans typically don't like liberty because it entails responsibility.

    We can offer the abstracts of liberty, but Uncle Sugar can offer them housing, welfare benefits and schooling? How can we compete with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    I just don't understand what you're saying. If we are for liberty and non-aggression, we need to fight SJWs and racists/white nationalists with equal vigor. They are both disgusting.
    I'm saying that the Cultural Marxism is essentially non-white supremacy, often encoded into law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    What if they don't want liberty? What if material benefits and enhanced group status is what they desire? Humans typically don't like liberty because it entails responsibility.

    We can offer the abstracts of liberty, but Uncle Sugar can offer them housing, welfare benefits and schooling? How can we compete with that?
    One thing is for sure -- latinos are hard workers who respect responsibility. A lot of people are, actually. We just need to present the ideas of liberty to people, and it will catch on, I'm tellin' ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    I just don't understand your reasoning. It does not make sense to me. We should not become anti-liberty in the pursuit of liberty.
    Having a sane immigration policy is not "anti liberty".

    The world is a very big place, and if people really need a better place to live, then they are free to fix their own $#@!-holes before they go and totally ruin the USA as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I'm saying that the Cultural Marxism is essentially non-white supremacism, often encoded into law.
    There are some people who are racist against white people, yeah. But I don't think you have as much to fear as you are fearing. Those people are mostly college losers than anything. All racists are evil. Don't retaliate evil with more evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Having a sane immigration policy is not "anti liberty".

    The world is a very big place, and if people really need a better place to live, then they are free to fix their own $#@!-holes before they go and totally ruin the USA as well.
    I think you are more afraid than you need to be. This attitude will push more people away from liberty than it will attract. You'll catch more flies with honey. Try to spread the message of liberty without a message of exclusion, and you'll get further towards your own agenda.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    I think you are more afraid than you need to be. This attitude will push more people away from liberty than it will attract. You'll catch more flies with honey. Try to spread the message of liberty without a message of exclusion, and you'll get further towards your own agenda.
    I think that you are naive about the nature/scale of the warfare that is currently being employed against the USA/Western Civilization.

    Also, libertarianism will continue to face staggering competition against NAZIs as long as we don't have the balls to vehemently oppose PCism in all its forms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    One thing is for sure -- latinos are hard workers who respect responsibility. A lot of people are, actually. We just need to present the ideas of liberty to people, and it will catch on, I'm tellin' ya.
    Only the third generation is more independent minded. Like I said, Uncle Sugar has us outgunned with his various schemes. The government exists to encapture people and infect them with the virus of dependency.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    I think that you are naive about the nature/scale of the warfare that is currently being employed against the USA/Western Civilization.
    I think if you've bought into the racist narrative. I think you are better than this. I believe in you.

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Only the third generation is more independent minded. Like I said, Uncle Sugar has us outgunned with his various schemes.
    Don't let the narrative fool you. Spreading ideas works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    I think if you've bought into the racist narrative. I think you are better than this. I believe in you.
    Ok, so we respectfully disagree.

    BTW, congratulations on being married now.

    I'm starting to get old, and beginning to feel like I really need to get hitched soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    There are some people who are racist against white people, yeah. But I don't think you have as much to fear as you are fearing. Those people are mostly college losers than anything. All racists are evil. Don't retaliate evil with more evil.
    The college losers are mere foot soldiers. These directives are coming from much higher places. NGOs, think tanks and philanthropic organizations like the Ford Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post

    Don't let the narrative fool you. Spreading ideas works.
    If reality wasn't so artificially distorted, we would be more successful. Reality favors our ideas. The enemy knows this, so they create this fanciful alternate reality where the truth is suppressed as a faint echo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yieu View Post
    One thing is for sure -- latinos are hard workers who respect responsibility.
    That's a horribly collectivist statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    To defeat SJWS you must disarm them, which means destroying the weapons that they employ. That's what this entire Alt Right movement is about. It's about smashing the double standard of Cultural Marxism that actually reinforces the very things that they assail the White Nationalists for doing. An elaborate game is being played at the moment.
    Why do you want to take away their weapons instead of teaching them responsible use?
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Ok, so we respectfully disagree.

    BTW, congratulations on being married now.

    I'm starting to get old, and beginning to feel like I really need to get hitched soon.
    Going on 8 years soon! We had a Hindu wedding, it was great.

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    The college losers are mere foot soldiers. These directives are coming from much higher places. NGOs, think tanks and philanthropic organizations like the Ford Foundation.
    That is very likely true. That doesn't mean fall for their narrative by becoming racist along with them -- that's what they want. That means fight ideas with better ideas! Prove to them that our ideas are better! Libertarian is objectively better than socialism -- spread that message, and we can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    If reality wasn't so artificially distorted, we would be more successful. Reality favors our ideas. The enemy knows this, so they create this fanciful alternate reality where the truth is suppressed as a faint echo.
    The truth is suppressed when we fall for their narrative instead of promoting our own.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotAnIllegalImmigrant View Post
    That's a horribly collectivist statement.
    Lol. Collectivists love to throw collectivism back at their opponents.

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