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    Signal boost from The Boston Globe and Rachel Maddow:

    https://twitter.com/jeremykauffman/s...88635607392256
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    Free Staters seek to undo New Hampshire government from within
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/09/...rnment-within/
    [archive link: https://archive.ph/4oe26]
    Brian MacQuarrie (03 September 2022)

    MANCHESTER, N.H. — The doormat outside Carla Gericke’s house carries the warning “Come back with a warrant.” It’s a stark reflection of her broad distrust of government bureaucracy, an attitude that is the driving force behind the Free State movement, which has led thousands of like-minded people to move to New Hampshire on a quixotic quest — to build a libertarian utopia.

    Gericke helps lead that movement, and her agenda is broad and unapologetically radical. More than 6,000 people have relocated to New Hampshire since the effort was launched 21 years ago, according to its organizers. And while some dispute that claim, legislators on both sides of the aisle in Concord agree that Free Staters have come to wield outsize political influence.

    Inside her home, Gericke explained why an independent New Hampshire is a good idea, why its public schools are hopelessly broken, why Washington, D.C., is pervasively corrupt, and why Free Staters who believe big government is the enemy of personal freedom are determined to turn society upside down.

    “I’m a problem-solver, I’m a solutionist, I am an innovator, I’m a visionary,” said Gericke, a former corporate attorney who moved to New Hampshire from New York in 2008 as part of the Free State movement. “I want to take a swing at making one place better, and this is the place I picked.”

    But where Gericke and other “porcupines” — a nickname Free Staters have adopted — see a blueprint for shrinking government and protecting the rights to privacy and private property, critics see a back-door assault on democracy itself.

    Their end game, detractors say, is to infiltrate New Hampshire government at all levels — from select boards to the State House — with the aim of dismantling it. State support for public schools is a priority target.

    “Their whole mission is to take over state government and to use the threat of secession as leverage” against the federal government, said Zandra Rice Hawkins, executive director of Granite State Progress, a progressive advocacy group.

    Jeremy Kauffman, a Free State Project board member, describes democracy itself as a threat.

    “Democracy is a soft form of communism that basically assures bad and dangerous people will be in power,” Kauffman said by e-mail. The Manchester resident, a tech entrepreneur, is running for US Senate as a Libertarian.

    The movement began with a 2001 essay by Jason Sorens, then a Yale graduate student and now director of the Center for Ethics in Society at St. Anselm College in Manchester. The goal was at once simple and sweeping: attract 20,000 libertarians to a single state with a small population, get elected to public office, concentrate power, and enact change from the inside out.

    In 2003, Free Staters chose New Hampshire, with its deep vein of conservatism and “Live Free or Die” motto, as their prospective homeland, and more than 19,000 people have since signed a pledge to move to the state, organizers said. Only a third of that number are estimated to have relocated so far, but Sorens said they have made a major impact.

    “There’s been the emergence of a significant group of libertarian legislators, and some of them are in leadership” in Concord, the state capital, Sorens said. “I’ve been pleased overall with what we’ve achieved. I may have hoped that we would reach 20,000, but I’m not sure I ever expected we would.”

    House majority leader Jason Osborne, for example, moved to New Hampshire from Ohio in 2010 as part of the Free State Project. Like many Free Staters, Osborne belongs to the Republican Party, something critics say masks the true intentions of many in the movement — using a major party as a Trojan horse to gain election.

    Sorens estimated that as many as 40 percent of Free Staters favor secession.

    The porcupines, so called because they portray themselves as harmless until provoked, have built a statewide support network for newcomers and member families already here.

    Porcupine real-estate agents help find housing for the arrivals, others steer them to jobs, and weekly meetups, from pub gatherings to knitting circles, have sprung up across the state. The Free State Project also organizes PorcFest each summer, a weeklong celebration featuring a plethora of lectures and family activities.

    In the recent past, “those not so misguided by the winning government’s indoctrination camps” have heard about the War for Southern Independence, according to a PorcFest schedule. That’s the epic, bloody conflict better known as the Civil War. Parents also have been invited to a discussion on the “Battle Over Raising Your Child.”

    “Your rulers would like to do you the ‘favor’ of taking your children off your hands to ‘educate’ them (with a heavy dose of learning to revere their authority),” its summary read.

    While the group often avoids the spotlight, it gained notoriety this year when a Free State legislator sponsored a bill seeking a constitutional amendment to allow New Hampshire to secede. The effort was resoundingly defeated.

    Free Stater influence also played a role in the controversial two-week shutdown of the Gunstock ski resort, a popular recreational area in conservative Belknap County. Antigovernment activists briefly took control of the commission that runs the county-owned attraction; chaos ensued.

    And a Free Stater who served as select board chair in rural Croydon succeeded in cutting that town’s school budget in half with a startling motion at a sparsely attended town meeting. When they learned what had happened, hundreds of voters rallied to restore the funding.

    Despite those setbacks, Free Staters have amassed substantial political clout, observers said.

    Only 25 lawmakers in the 400-member House have been identified as known or likely Free Staters, but many more are believed to be aligned with the movement, according to Granite State Progress.

    “They now control essentially the Republican Party in the House,” Dr. Tom Sherman, a Democratic state senator from Rye who is running for governor, said at a picnic in Croydon, where families celebrated the restoration of school funding. “They’re vocal and well-funded. It’s the tail wagging the dog, and the tail is big enough.”

    When they enter the chamber, legislators are handed sheets with voting recommendations by the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance, a group that shares many of the Free State values, and are later graded on the positions they take.

    Republican lawmakers buck those priorities at their peril, particularly in primary races, said Representative Brodie Deshaies, a Wolfeboro Republican who has criticized the secession effort and what he calls a lack of transparency among Free Staters.

    “Are they for you, are they going after you, or are they staying out of the race?” said Deshaies, who estimated that a majority of Republican legislators might be associated with the group.

    “That’s never really happened in this state. How are they going to utilize this power?” Deshaies said. “I never know where they’re going, and I’m unsure if they even know.”

    Free State leaders, including Kauffman, said the group is a big tent whose members range from radicals to pragmatists. The unifying strand, Gericke said, “is the nonaggression principle, which is an ethical stance that says you cannot force people to do things against their will.”

    That made the government response to the pandemic a rallying point, she said, although New Hampshire’s restrictions were less stringent than many federal and municipal mandates.

    “A lot of people are just like, ‘This response is not for us. We’d like to live in a community where, you know, people aren’t forcing us to do things against our will,’ " said Gericke, who is running for state representative as a Republican.

    The Free State Project also has alarmed the New Hampshire Council of Churches, which expressed concern last month after Free Staters tweeted a list of Christian churches in the state that it considers “woke.”

    The list singled out congregations that have expressed support for the LGBTQ+ community, condemned racism, and endorsed measures to curb COVID-19, among other things, according to New Hampshire Public Radio.

    Governor Chris Sununu, a Republican seeking a fourth term, occasionally has tried to distance himself from the Free State bloc. But many Democrats say he has little choice but to work with them if Republicans are to maintain control of the Legislature.

    Sununu did not respond to requests for comment.

    Despite the unease that Free Staters have caused, Andrew Smith, a political science professor at the University of New Hampshire and director of the UNH Survey Center, said the movement’s influence might be overstated.

    “They’re taking advantage of what other people don’t want to do,” Smith said. “This is kind of typical, small-town New Hampshire politics.”

    But in a state already known for its libertarian leanings, Free Staters have helped drive a broad expansion of school choice, which critics often portray as a steppingstone to eliminating public schools; supported the right to carry firearms without a permit; and endorsed cutting business and property taxes, among other measures.

    Free Staters also have supported the legalization of gay marriage and medical marijuana in New Hampshire, which Gericke cites as evidence that the movement can work with progressives on issues of personal freedom.

    But some in the Free State effort appear less sanguine about working with others.

    “The goal is to get anyone who is an authoritarian and get them out of any position of power, ideally to get them out of the state,” Kauffman said in a November podcast posted by the Libertarian Institute.

    “If they’re not going to adopt our positions, we want them out,” added Kauffman, who moved to the state from Philadelphia in 2015. “And if they’re certainly in any positions of power, our goal is to replace them.”

    By e-mail, Kauffman defined an authoritarian as “someone who violates the principles of bodily autonomy and voluntary interaction. For example, an authoritarian might think it’s right to rob one neighbor to pay for the other neighbor’s college.”

    Free Staters are rarely so explicit in public, critics say, often masking their extreme agenda by appearing to run as mainstream Republicans.

    “The Free State Project is deliberately targeting unsuspecting small communities where they can outnumber the local voting population with people who are brought in to disrupt political outcomes,” said Mohammad Saleh of Keene, chair of the Cheshire County Democrats.

    “Voters see an ‘R’ next to a name, and they don’t necessarily ask what their background is,” Saleh said. The Free Staters are “an antidemocratic organization, which unfortunately has hijacked the New Hampshire Republican Party,”

    According to the New Hampshire Business Review, 195 of the House’s 213-member Republican caucus in the 2021 session received A or B grades from the Liberty Alliance, a coalition “working to increase individual freedom.”

    Among the 177 Democrats, 18 received a D, 24 were graded F, and the remaining 135 were deemed a “constitutional threat,” meaning they were deemed by the alliance to be “unfaithful to their oath of office to uphold the New Hampshire Constitution and the principle of liberty.”

    Kauffman, in the podcast interview, expressed a hope that as the Free State movement gains strength, its opponents will see the writing on the wall and leave.

    “My hope would be that you can simply make it unattractive enough that if you want there to be a giant welfare state, what are you doing here? Why did you come here?” Kauffman said.

    “We’re shrinking the state here as much as we can with the influence we have, but ultimately we’ve got to get enough that we can actively take it federal and start really saying, ‘Hey, if you’re in New Hampshire, these things don’t apply,’ " he said.

    “That’s not going to happen next year,” Kauffman added. “I’d be surprised if it happened in the next five. But if the movement keeps accelerating, I think that it could happen within 10.”
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 09-04-2022 at 10:05 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Free Staters seek to undo New Hampshire government from within
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/09/...rnment-within/
    [archive link: https://archive.ph/4oe26]

    [...]
    LOL. "Muh roads" ... (of course ...)

    https://twitter.com/jeremykauffman/s...01332151554048

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    This sounds $#@!ing epic...
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Liberty and freedom and parental choice, oh my!

    https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/stat...43354144632832



    Letter: Free State Project candidates
    https://www.concordmonitor.com/-47965550
    Susan Woodard (16 September 2022)

    If you are affiliated with the Free State Project, why are you unwilling to disclose this in campaign literature? Sadly, people become aware of the Free State Project affiliation after the person has been elected to office. For example, Lily Tang Williams distributed several campaign flyers, none of which revealed her alignment with the Free State Project.

    When you vote for a Republican, please be sure that you are not voting for a Free Stater, people that are intent on destroying public education. If you value public education, clean water, reasonable gun regulations, and progress combating climate change, please be sure to vote for candidates that are not representing the Free State Project.

    https://twitter.com/jeremykauffman/s...44998403825666

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    Is the Libertarian Migration to New Hampshire Having an Impact?
    Could be, could be ...

    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    NBC Boston did an 11-part docuseries on the Free State Project

    looks pretty interesting, here is a preview of the series:
    https://www.nbcboston.com/on-air/as-...shire/2978551/

    first 7 episodes are now available online:
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...ginal/2920007/

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    https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/stat...29172287991810



    Culture Wars Take Over NH House this Week
    https://indepthnh.org/2023/03/18/cul...use-this-week/
    Garry Rayno (18 March 2023)

    [bold emphasis added - OB]

    A quick look at the House and Senate calendars for this week will convince even those with casual political interests that the culture wars have come to New Hampshire.

    Lawmakers will spend hours debating the war on public education, parental rights, abortion rights, voting rights, vaccines and medical care, firearms, drugs and governmental power to name about half the debates to grace Representatives Hall and the Senate Chamber.

    Not that long ago, these more global issues were not front and center in every session of the General Court.

    Instead it was the state’s support for institutions like nursing homes and higher education, reducing the uncompensated care for hospitals, tax credits to attract businesses and yes how the state funds education.

    It was not about furries and cat litter boxes, drag shows and grooming, or face masks and lockdowns.

    How did the state get from dealing with its own issues to making New Hampshire deal with the same issues as Texas or Florida or any of the other states undergoing the same forced “rehabilitations.”

    It is easy to blame social media for the universalization of issues and concerns, but it is just the vehicle. What has caused the manipulation of this country’s consciousness is the information or misinformation that has been spread over the electronic infrastructure.

    Very sophisticated networks are doing damage to this country that could not have happened in a war or limited military conflict.

    During the Vietnam War the conflict was often described as a war for the “hearts and minds” of the Vietnamese people.

    And now the war for the hearts and minds has come home 50 years later.

    The polarization between red and blue and the resulting cultural wars intended to energize “the base,” has created a country with little use for compromise and that is apparent in the New Hampshire legislature as well.

    Much of what has been passed in the last three years is unpopular, some very unpopular with the general public if you read the polls, but lawmakers who push these agendas or proposals that serve a small portion of the state continue to be elected.

    In New Hampshire it is easy to see how Republicans gerrymandered the Senate and Executive Council and to some extent the House, to have control of all three although Democratic candidates received more votes than Republican candidates in all three bodies.

    The state has an all Democratic Congressional delegation, and until Gov. Chris Sununu won in 2016, controlled the governor’s office for 16 of the previous 18 years.

    New Hampshire is truly a purple state but you would not know that looking at the legislation approved and proposed in the last three years by the House and Senate.

    The public has not given the lawmakers a mandate to turn New Hampshire into a Libertarian Shangri-La but that is what is happening.

    Money is being drained out of the public school system, taxes are cut and some eliminated like the interest and dividends tax which benefits the wealthy not the poor, regulations are eliminated, and personal freedoms are emphasized to the detriment of a safe society.

    The one thing that has really not worked out “as planned” for the Libertarians is Gov. Chris Sununu’s power grab of federal money that he used to concentrate power in the executive branch.

    And ironically it is the flow of money into politics that has driven what is happening in New Hampshire, and other states like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Texas, Florida and in the Midwest.

    Extreme school voucher programs, attacks on reproductive rights and the gay and transgender communities, all similar if not identical in legislation that is intended to reduce the power of government, its reach and return to a time that never was in our lifetimes, but did exist before the Civil War or at least before Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal.

    The US Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision in January 2010 struck down restrictions on corporate contributions saying they violated First Amendment rights.

    It not only gave corporations the same rights as citizens it opened the floodgates for corporate money into campaigns and allowed them to influence elections like they never had before.

    It also allowed that corporate money to operate in the dark money universe where super PACs do not disclose where the money comes from.

    The decision essentially took government out of the hands of voters and put it into the hands of the mega donors.

    And it trickled down to New Hampshire as well.

    In each of the last two elections about $1 million was spent on House seats alone, while the Senate PACs received about an equal amount with spending on a senate seat often over $100,000 and some over $200,000.

    That is a lot of money for a position that pays $100 a year and you know whoever gave big money will expect a return.

    That was clear in the House debate last week on five bills from the Science, Technology and Science Committee that split 10-10 down party lines failing to reach recommendations on the bills.

    The bills would have encouraged renewable energy, energy efficiency, and reduced carbon emissions goals to bring the state in line with its New England neighbors.

    But all five were voted down by between five and 10 votes.

    One speaker noted he received a letter from the oil lobby, Americans For Prosperity, alluding to the “education arm” of the Koch Foundation, one of the big players in major money flowing into the stage legislative races.

    The company is one of the largest fossil fuel producers and refiners in the world and like all the others wants to maintain its livelihood or at least its considerable profits and works to ensure renewable energy, energy efficiency and other things to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels do not impact their profits.

    The foundation is but one of a number of industries that have been turned loose to spend freely on buying the New Hampshire legislature and many others all the way up to Congress.

    They benefit from the culture wars because it helps to put the people they want into decision-making positions and to achieve their libertarian goals of doing away with public education, regulations, taxes and anything that looks like a functioning and efficient federal government or even state government.

    And the culture wars create a distraction so people don’t realize what is really happening to end democracy as we know it and replace it with a government more like the one that existed before the New Deal instituted the social safety net, regulations and higher taxes to pay for it.

    If you want a front row seat to watch this happen in real time, particularly the House, and to some extent the Senate sessions this week.

    The House meets Wednesday and Thursday beginning at 9 a.m., while the Senate meets Thursday beginning at 10 a.m.



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    Is the Libertarian Migration to New Hampshire Having an Impact?
    Why, yes. Yes, it is.

    Just ask the Democrats [PDF file]:

    "[T]he Free State Project's dark, dystopian philosophy and their actions have already had a significant and negative impact on New Hampshire."



    https://twitter.com/NHDems/status/1669723782158721025




    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 06-16-2023 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Kennedy's reply:
    @PAF
    @acptulsa

    I'm going...My truck is down so I'm on the big two wheeler, so the weather will have to be fit, but I'm going to go meet him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @PAF
    @acptulsa

    I'm going...My truck is down so I'm on the big two wheeler, so the weather will have to be fit, but I'm going to go meet him.
    Good! Wish I could make it.

    If he tells you the truth almost as often as Ron Paul did, that's something to consider. And I think he will. Check out your Unsafe and Ineffective thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Dupe post
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-16-2023 at 10:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @PAF
    @acptulsa

    I'm going...My truck is down so I'm on the big two wheeler, so the weather will have to be fit, but I'm going to go meet him.
    Awesome on both accounts, have fun riding!

    I spent a lot of time with RFK Jr, Ron Paul and Tom Massie at the last conference. You're definitely going to have a great time ;-)


    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Good! Wish I could make it.

    If he tells you the truth almost as often as Ron Paul did, that's something to consider. And I think he will. Check out your Unsafe and Ineffective thread.
    I wish I could make that trip!

    Btw, Ron Paul spoke HIGHLY of RFK again on his last episode. That's also something to consider too ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That outfit is the brainchild of a Gilmanton lefty named Brian Beihl.



    Belknap County group targets ‘extremist Free State agenda’ in NH House delegation

    https://www.nhbr.com/belknap-group-s...se-delegation/

    Newly formed PAC seeks to seeks to endorse ‘reasonable and responsible’ candidates

    July 11, 2022 Michael Kitch

    Brian Beihl, a campaign consultant and organizer, is overseeing the Citizens for Belknap election undertaking.



    Citizens for Belknap – a newly formed group whose members include Republicans, Democrats and independents – has mounted an effort to replace the leadership and other members of the county delegation at the polls.

    The organization has registered as a political action committee, which will endorse and support candidates from both parties running for the county’s 18 seats in the House in both the primary election in September and the general election in November. This week the group opened its campaign and began distributing yard signs, placing advertisements in local newspapers and posting a petition online.

    “Many of our citizens are appalled by the behavior of our county delegation toward the Gunstock Area Commission,” said Al Posnack of Alton, who chairs the PAC. “But our concerns are not just about Gunstock, but about health care and public safety as well.” He singled out Reps. Mike Sylvia of Belmont, who chairs the delegation, and Norm Silber of Gilford for “pursuing an extremist Free State agenda.”

    For the past several years, county government has been roiled by conflict between the county delegation and the county commission and department heads. The conflict has been marked by disagreements over the preparation and management of the county budget, especially appropriations for the nursing home, leading to litigation over the respective authority vested in the two bodies.

    Infighting between county officials aroused little outcry from the public. But when the leadership of the delegation sought to control the management and operation of Gunstock Mountain Resort, with an eye to leasing the facility to a private entity, opposition from residents was immediate and vociferous. More than 2,200 residents petitioned to maintain the status quo. When the delegation placed four of its political allies on the five-member Gunstock Area Commission a group called Citizens for Gunstock was formed, and it morphed into Citizens for Belknap.

    All 18 members of the House delegation are Republicans, including a number of outright libertarians and Free Staters cloaked in the mantle of the GOP. Fifteen of them earned the highest grades awarded by the NH Liberty Alliance for their voting records in 2021 while the other three fell just one mark short. A third of the delegation earned the highest ratings midway through this year’s legislative session and another 10 ranked just a notch below them.

    Sylvia, chair of the delegation, was the prime sponsor of a constitutional amendment calling for New Hampshire to secede from the United States. Reps. Glen Aldrich of Gilford, Ray Howard of Alton and Paul Terry of Alton joined Sylvia in voting for the resolution, which the House rejected by a vote of 323-13.

    “These individuals pretended to be Republican representatives for the good people of Belknap County, but instead supported a New Hampshire constitutional amendment to secede from the United States,” said former Rep. Brian Gallagher of Sanbornton, a conservative Republican. “I can’t think of a more unpatriotic act, and such an action violates their oaths as state officials and their Pledge of Allegiance to the United States.” He noted that Sylvia, Aldrich and Terry are seeking re-election.

    Citizens for Belknap intends to endorse “reasonable and responsible“ candidates from both parties in the primary and general elections with the overriding goal of replacing the leaders of the delegation by defeating them along with their most ardent followers at the polls.

    Brian Beihl, a seasoned campaign consultant and organizer who is overseeing the undertaking, said he has been pleased by the initial response to the effort from voters. In particular, he pointed to the number of longtime Republicans disaffected by the pretense of extremists and radicals disguising themselves as Republicans.

    The election has widened a rift among Republican members of the delegation, some of whom have chafed at their leaders’ imperious use of power, blatant lack of transparency and open disrespect of the public. Altogether, 14 of the 18 incumbents seeking re-election are facing contested primary races in five of the county’s eight House districts.

    In Belmont, Travis O’Hara, one of a handful of Republicans who have repeatedly distanced themselves from the leadership, has challenged Sylvia for the seat in District 4.

    Likewise, Silber, Sylvia’s closest ally, is one of seven Republican candidates vying for the four seats in District 6, made up Gilford, Gilmanton and Ward 2 in Laconia, where incumbent Republicans Glen Aldrich and Gregg Hough, both in lockstep with leadership, are also at risk.

    Meanwhile, Belknap County Democrats has fielded a full slate of candidates in seven of eight districts. Shut out completely in 2020, Democrats fancy their chances of capturing at least six seats, with candidates they view as promising in Laconia, Gilford, Meredith and Center Harbor.

    As of May, the 41,440 registered voters in the county consisted of 16,083 Republicans, 10,483 Democrats and 14,874 undeclared voters. In eight of the 11 municipalities Republicans represented the largest bloc of voters while trailing the number of undeclared voters in Gilford, Meredith and Center Harbor.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 09-14-2023 at 02:47 PM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    That whole thing in NH blew up because of the Gunstock ski area issue.

    Libertarians excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, even better than the GOP.

    Yes, Gunstock should probably be privatized. But that was a low value target and effort.

    The county and state management was effective and corruption free, the area was profitable and very popular both with tourists and locals, and operates at minimal cost to the state and county budget.

    https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...b695499cf.html

    Leave a popular and profitable ski area alone and tackle election fraud, immigrant and diversity invasion, eliminating toll roads, queeer schooling and the FedGov.

    Start with an Act to refuse to comply with federal regulations that are going to ban woodstoves, fireplaces, gas stove, gas logs, campfires and on and on.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 09-14-2023 at 03:01 PM.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Just goes to show. If the DNC and RNC can't divide us against ourselves, they'll unite against us every time.

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    Maybe Libertarians are no better than Republicans or Democrats.

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    https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/stat...70724816302529

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    GOP candidate gets blown out of the water by 12 points in what was a solid GOP district.

    A quick read of the voting trends indicated once again it was white women voting for abortion in massive numbers that carried the day for the Marxists.



    Balance of power tightens at New Hampshire state House after special election in Northwood, Nottingham

    https://www.wmur.com/article/nh-hous...am-23/45213577
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    The moment it gets any traction IS the moment you see hundreds of thousands of migrants moved to New Hampshire.

    solved.

    Plenty to go around. 4-5 Million under Biden SO FAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The moment it gets any traction IS the moment you see hundreds of thousands of migrants moved to New Hampshire.

    solved.

    Plenty to go around. 4-5 Million under Biden SO FAR.
    We're getting it from both ends.

    There is the unwholesome flood of diversity that is moving into what passes for urban areas in NH, Salem, Nashua, Manchester, Concord.

    Meanwhile there is a second wave of Massholes, New Yorkers and so on, that are fleeing their home states as they become unlivable due to COVID crackdowns, taxes, crime and the aforementioned unwholesome floods.

    As soon as they show up, they start agitating and voting for more of the same $#@! they just fled.

    I've been here, in northern New England, over thirty years now.

    I never worried too much about the ebb and flow local politics...democrats were ding dongs of course, but there was a big difference between, say a NH democrat or a even a rural Maine democrat and a M$#@! democrat.

    That is no longer the case: the "new breed" are the same as they are all over the country, which is to say, hardcore Marxist revolutionaries.

    When Baby Huey leaves the state house, the Marxists will likely sweep all four branches of NH government, and any progress that has been made will be wiped out in a year.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We're getting it from both ends.

    There is the unwholesome flood of diversity that is moving into what passes for urban areas in NH, Salem, Nashua, Manchester, Concord.

    Meanwhile there is a second wave of Massholes, New Yorkers and so on, that are fleeing their home states as they become unlivable due to COVID crackdowns, taxes, crime and the aforementioned unwholesome floods.

    As soon as they show up, they start agitating and voting for more of the same $#@! they just fled.

    I've been here, in northern New England, over thirty years now.

    I never worried too much about the ebb and flow local politics...democrats were ding dongs of course, but there was a big difference between, say a NH democrat or a even a rural Maine democrat and a M$#@! democrat.

    That is no longer the case: the "new breed" are the same as they are all over the country, which is to say, hardcore Marxist revolutionaries.

    When Baby Huey leaves the state house, the Marxists will likely sweep all four branches of NH government, and any progress that has been made will be wiped out in a year.

    Ain’t politics just grand?

    Obviously you guys up there need to vote HARDER.

    On the other hand, take a minute to imagine this:

    Imagine a world wherein ANYONE, anyone at all could move in next door, or across the street, or down the block and you never had to worry that they might be able to force any insane ideas that they might hold onto you because the means for them to do so simply didn’t exist.

    Maybe it’s time we got back to pursuing actual liberty, for everyone, through effective means, and put significantly less emphasis on the purely political. Politics isn’t wirking anyway so we don’t really have anything to lose.

    Just a thought.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    We're getting it from both ends.

    There is the unwholesome flood of diversity that is moving into what passes for urban areas in NH, Salem, Nashua, Manchester, Concord.

    Meanwhile there is a second wave of Massholes, New Yorkers and so on, that are fleeing their home states as they become unlivable due to COVID crackdowns, taxes, crime and the aforementioned unwholesome floods.

    As soon as they show up, they start agitating and voting for more of the same $#@! they just fled.

    I've been here, in northern New England, over thirty years now.

    I never worried too much about the ebb and flow local politics...democrats were ding dongs of course, but there was a big difference between, say a NH democrat or a even a rural Maine democrat and a M$#@! democrat.

    That is no longer the case: the "new breed" are the same as they are all over the country, which is to say, hardcore Marxist revolutionaries.

    When Baby Huey leaves the state house, the Marxists will likely sweep all four branches of NH government, and any progress that has been made will be wiped out in a year.
    Yes, and nothing is going to stop it. Southern New England is basically worse. Eastern Massachusetts is flooded with them, new batches this year, and demands to build housing, so the spread will go into Central Mass, and on the other end, the New Yorkers and New Jerseyites take the Berkshires. Rhode Island is an hispanic and black district in the North, and the Southern coastline is FULL of RICH, New York City Wall Street types and even celebrities in Newport and Jamestown. The South County lands are all bought up by New Yorkers with LOADS more money than native Rhode Islanders. Home rule is over. Connecticut is getting developed rapidly. The quiet Eastern Corner won't be quiet for long.
    I think their plans for New Hampshire involve settling migrants into the North, up in Berlin, and so on. You know Maine is not what it was even 5 years ago. We're going to get squeezed in New England by this combination of rich New Yokers and Jerseyites fleeing the cities, and millions more migrants. It's over, basically.
    What's really made it possible is the GPS and the cell communications. People aren't afraid to get "lost" or be far out anymore because they are always connected, so they feel safe, unlike before. They take over the governments and move in their base. Finished.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Ain’t politics just grand?

    Obviously you guys up there need to vote HARDER.

    On the other hand, take a minute to imagine this:

    Imagine a world wherein ANYONE, anyone at all could move in next door, or across the street, or down the block and you never had to worry that they might be able to force any insane ideas that they might hold onto you because the means for them to do so simply didn’t exist.

    Maybe it’s time we got back to pursuing actual liberty, for everyone, through effective means, and put significantly less emphasis on the purely political. Politics isn’t wirking anyway so we don’t really have anything to lose.

    Just a thought.
    That's what we had been working on.

    That's what's going to go away.

    I imagine the first thing that will happen is the implementation of broad based taxation, sales and income.

    Once the Marxists get their hands on that, then comes the control.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Yes, and nothing is going to stop it. Southern New England is basically worse. Eastern Massachusetts is flooded with them, new batches this year, and demands to build housing, so the spread will go into Central Mass, and on the other end, the New Yorkers and New Jerseyites take the Berkshires. Rhode Island is an hispanic and black district in the North, and the Southern coastline is FULL of RICH, New York City Wall Street types and even celebrities in Newport and Jamestown. The South County lands are all bought up by New Yorkers with LOADS more money than native Rhode Islanders. Home rule is over. Connecticut is getting developed rapidly. The quiet Eastern Corner won't be quiet for long.
    I think their plans for New Hampshire involve settling migrants into the North, up in Berlin, and so on. You know Maine is not what it was even 5 years ago. We're going to get squeezed in New England by this combination of rich New Yokers and Jerseyites fleeing the cities, and millions more migrants. It's over, basically.
    What's really made it possible is the GPS and the cell communications. People aren't afraid to get "lost" or be far out anymore because they are always connected, so they feel safe, unlike before. They take over the governments and move in their base. Finished.
    So what do we do?
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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