Trump Would Resume Sales of Militarized Gear to Police

[phill4paul]

Police union members in Ohio today quizzed Donald Trump about protective gear, saying President Obama has banned practice of sales of surplus military equipment to police department.

Trump says he wold resume such sales, saying “Yes, I would. I think it’s ridiculous” the practice was stopped

NOTE: Obama by executive order in May 2015 stopped the sale of some military equipment to law enforcement agencies in the wake of criticism of the paramilitary-like forces used to quell riots in a St. Louis suburb in August 2014

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/tr...gear-to-police

[RandallFan]

Mike Brown & other fat racist pieces of $#@! are dead, because of 9mm or .40 or whateverammo & generic chokeholds.

The guy selling selling looses didn't experience a militarized choke hold. Maybe the cop travelled to Israel and learnt Krav maga.

The cop should use whatever they want, it's who and what buildings they are going into that are the problem.

[CPUd]

[afwjam]

If I was not out before, I'm for sure out now.

[Antischism]

It's no surprise that Giuliani is on the Trump train.

[TheTexan]

Our Officers are great. Great people, just fantastic.

They do an amazing job.

[osan]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/tr...gear-to-police

The main problem I have with Trump is that his message is "make America great again" v. make it FREE.

[69360]

Cops probably shouldn't have tanks. M6 rifles and body armor, meh probably won't matter much either way.

Trump's new campaign slogan #yourlifedoesntmatter

[CaptUSA]

Yay! America! Trump-style!!

[CCTelander]

Yay! America! Trump-style!!

That right there is FREEDOM, my friend. Wake up and smell it!

[TheCount]

Yay! America! Trump-style!!

There was a report of a Mexican working as a dishwasher at the local Chinese buffet. Officers have to be cautious and also use all of their WoB money.

[Origanalist]

Donald Trump says he would rescind President Obama's executive order halting the transfer of military equipment to police.

C.J. Ciaramella|Aug. 23, 2016 1:30 pm

Donald Trump says he would restart a controversial federal program that transfers surplus military equipment to local police departments, The Guardian reported Monday night:

During discussions at a fraternal order of police lodge in Akron, Trump was asked by one questioner if he would return "military equipment" to law enforcement, according to a pool reporter who observed the event.

"Yes, I would," said Trump, who added that the current situation facing law enforcement was "ridiculous."

President Obama issued an executive order last May banning the transfer of several categories of military surplus equipment, such as bayonets, grenade launchers, heavy machine guns, and tanks, from the Pentagon to local police departments under the federal government's 1033 program.

The Obama administration came under a hail of criticism from Black Lives Matter and civil rights groups who said the 1033 program contributed heavily to the militarization of police on display during the protests in Ferguson, Missouri.

In a Fraternal Order of Police presidential candidate survey released last month, Trump also pledged to rescind the executive order, calling it an "excellent program that enhances community safety."

Trump has in recent months worked to frame himself as the "law and order" candidate, bashing the Obama administration's commutation efforts for putting "bad dudes" back on the street. "There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct," Trump said in a speech last Tuesday. "Crime and violence is an attack on the poor, and will never be accepted in a Trump Administration."

However, the White House is also now re-reviewing the 1033 program after meeting with law enforcement leaders in the wake of the fatal shootings of five police officers in Dallas. Law enforcement groups have been pressing the administration to revive the program, saying local police departments are now unable to afford vital equipment.

Jim Pasco, the executive director of the FOP, said he was "pleased" to hear Trump's comments. "We think the 1033 program is extraordinarily important to public safety and officer safety," Pasco said.

continued...http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/23/tr...-getting-milit

[Danke]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ice&highlight=

[Origanalist]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ice&highlight=

Mods can merge. There are already four or five dup threads rolling around, one more isn't going to matter much.

[Danke]

Mods can merge. There are already four or five dup threads rolling around, one more isn't going to matter much.

Dup threads, or posts?

[Origanalist]

Dup threads, or posts?

Threads. I have two I personally started that were duplicated under different titles. No big deal.

[Danke]

Trump eager to return military equipment to police departments



http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...ce-departments



The violent crisis in Ferguson, Missouri, two years ago rattled the country in a variety of ways, but one of the lasting debates focused on the militarization of local law enforcement. Many Americans weren’t just shocked by the unrest; they were surprised to see police officers carrying weapons of war while confronting civilians.

Soon after, there was considerable interest on Capitol Hill about reforming the Pentagon’s “1033” program that makes military equipment available to police departments. Though most of the support for changes was spearheaded by Democrats – Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) were particularly invested – even some Republican lawmakers agreed it was time to take another look at the policy.

Congressional action never materialized, but as we discussed last year, the Obama administration followed through, banning the transfer of at least some types of military weapons to local police.

As Bloomberg Politics reported yesterday, Donald Trump wants to undo what President Obama has done.
Police union members in Ohio today quizzed Donald Trump about protective gear, saying President Obama has banned practice of sales of surplus military equipment to police department.

Trump says he would resume such sales, saying “Yes, I would. I think it’s ridiculous” the practice was stopped.
Keep in mind, under the White House’s reforms, items like grenade launchers are no longer made available to local police departments. NBC News’ reported last May that if local departments “want other, less-imposing military equipment, local law enforcement agencies will have to submit to stringent federal oversight and restrictions.”

Under a Trump administration, those restrictions would disappear, and police access to military equipment and weapons would be restored.

Whether or not the Republican nominee has thought any of this through – as opposed to simply blurting out an answer yesterday – is unclear

[Origanalist]

No way

[jllundqu]

FREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Origanalist]

[Suzanimal]

I feel like I've seen this before.

[euphemia]

My personal observation is that local police now consider themselves the same as military. It feels very awkward. I do not think local law enforcement and crime investigation is the same as national defense.

[timosman]

My personal observation is that local police now consider themselves the same as military. It feels very awkward. I do not think local law enforcement and crime investigation is the same as national defense.

Hence the PR efforts

[donnay]

My personal observation is that local police now consider themselves the same as military. It feels very awkward. I do not think local law enforcement and crime investigation is the same as national defense.

You can thank Bill Clinton for that--he militarized the police first.

[twomp]

I don't know about you guys but I feel safer already.

[twomp]

I believe this. How does any of you expect Trump to get rid of 11 million illegals without the police having any grenade launchers?

[Kotin]

Mike Brown & other fat racist pieces of $#@! are dead, because of 9mm or .40 or whateverammo & generic chokeholds.

The guy selling selling looses didn't experience a militarized choke hold. Maybe the cop travelled to Israel and learnt Krav maga.

The cop should use whatever they want, it's who and what buildings they are going into that are the problem.

how is that in any way a legitimate argument that this is ok??? lol do you know what forums you are on???

any excuse to keep thinking trump is your guy I suppose.

militarized police is against everything this country was founded on.

[TheTexan]

So beautiful, brings a tear to my eye

Someone rep this I'm out of ammo.

[r3volution 3.0]

I believe this. How does any of you expect Trump to get rid of 11 million illegals without the police having any grenade launchers?

His position on deportation has "evolved" recently, so...

This must be about something else.

One could think of policy reasons behind it, but this Trump we're talking about.

In reality, it's just his way of signalling that he's tough on crime, the police love him, 'Murica, 'Murica, flag, luviterleaveit, eagle, 'Murica, etc.

[LatinsforPaul]

I believe this. How does any of you expect Trump to get rid of 11 million illegals without the police having any grenade launchers?

Too late, because Trump just officially adopted the Jeb Bush/Gang of 8 Position on Amnesty.