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    Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump

    Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump

    MAYSVILLE – U.S. Sen. Rand Paul told an overflow crowd at the Rotary Club in Maysville on Thursday morning that he’s had his differences with GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, but he solidly supports him in his race against Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

    The stop was part of Paul’s town hall meeting schedule which he’s held across the state to talk to, and hear from voters.

    Paul told the crowd that’s it’s important to pull together behind Trump because the alternative is Clinton.

    “We now have a comparison between Hillary Clinton and her husband who have grown rich over government service,” Paul said. “Selling themselves and selling their speeches.
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    In the second video, Rand says he understands voting for the Libertarian candidate to send a message. I would add that in either a hard core red or blue state, everyone should vote for a party other than Dem/Rep. For instance, no one can say that a vote for Johnson or Castle in California helps Hillary. Hillary is winning California no matter what.
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    He kept getting Trump supporters crashing the QA sessions at his town hall events and trolling him, I am pretty sure that's why Rand changed his tone. This is strategically a better position to take since he already got to say everything he said. He even says that most the time when he is asked, he says its because of his pledge and that he is a man of his word.

    Sen. Eric Brakey, R-Auburn, who is running for re-election in District 20, said voters are concerned about the top of the ticket. “It’s what’s on their minds, and what they want to talk about,” he said.
    Brakey, who supported Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s bid for the Republican nomination, said he’s candid with voters but doesn’t go out of his way to criticize Trump. Brakey, who also supported Ron Paul in 2012 over Mitt Romney, said he won’t tell people how to vote; it’s a decision for them to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A lot fuses will be blown today.
    Luckily, I own stock in fuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A lot fuses will be blown today.
    Well, I refuse to vote for Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Luckily, I own stock in fuses.
    What about gaskets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What about gaskets?
    I sell them.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I've got a gasket cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A lot fuses will be blown today.
    My mind is, but not my fuse. I just wish it was ol' Rand up there against Hillary. He's dead wrong though. They are equals in my eyes with the exception that Trump wants trade wars, and his deportation plan (I understand his intentions on carrying through with that are now in question) will be a net negative to individual liberty-- meaning changing nothing is better then the changes he is offering. I think it sums up Trump pretty well, sure some places I'm sure he is better, but overall what he is offering is a more authoritarian style of government. Just my $.02 of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    My mind is, but not my fuse. I just wish it was ol' Rand up there against Hillary. He's dead wrong though. They are equals in my eyes with the exception that Trump wants trade wars, and his deportation plan (I understand his intentions on carrying through with that are now in question) will be a net negative to individual liberty-- meaning changing nothing is better then the changes he is offering. I think it sums up Trump pretty well, sure some places I'm sure he is better, but overall what he is offering is a more authoritarian style of government. Just my $.02 of course.
    Yeah this was enough to piss off everyone in 2012, but after 2016 everyone will remember Rand in the debates not Rand pandering to Trump supporters that show up to his town halls. Rand knows he needs all republicans to vote for him, and Trump does too now. I bet the Trump schilling will increase 10 fold in the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Yeah this was enough to piss off everyone in 2012, but after 2016 everyone will remember Rand in the debates not Rand pandering to Trump supporters that show up to his town halls. Rand knows he needs all republicans to vote for him, and Trump does too now. I bet the Trump schilling will increase 10 fold in the coming months.
    ufff that is a horrid thought, but I don't doubt it is true.

    I wonder if it is strategic or if he really believes it. I get the feeling he really believes it, same with Massie. The part that I cannot understand is if they are seeing the bigger picture greater than I in regards to the election or I greater than them. Short of them joining us here though it is a question that will remain unanswered! And maybe Rand's true intent is going right over my head.

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    Oh boy. Do I love people tying them selves in knots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A lot fuses will be blown today.



    I have three of these protecting my incoming lines;

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    Sorry, never going to happen. I want to stop both Clinton and Trump.



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    Once again, Rand does the right thing. "I signed a pledge saying I'd support the Republican nominee, whoever that was." And then criticizes Hillary.

    He is smart to refrain from using the name, "Trump" when speaking about endorsements. Just refers to him as "the nominee". He's working hard to make sure there is no clip of him saying, "I support Donald Trump" And then he goes on to say, "Voting third party is one way of sending a message to both parties."

    My sense is that Rand will come out of 2016, better than he did after endorsing Romney.

    But you gotta love how the link in the OP and the clip titles insert phrases that were not uttered.
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    I honestly don't care if people are voting for Trump. What bothers me though are the people who undermine Rand while pumping Trump. Thomas Massie for example is supporting Trump, but he didn't spend the past year undermining his campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Sorry, never going to happen. I want to stop both Clinton and Trump.
    You're sure gonna look smart when "none of the above" actually gets elected President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Sorry, never going to happen. I want to stop both Clinton and Trump.

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    End result is the same...........

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    Block, Massie and Rand now. The acolytes are running out of people to blame.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What about gaskets?
    And duct tape too.

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    Stopping Hillary Does Not Stop Tyranny

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump





    It's the same reasoning used to justify voting for the lesser of two evils. We hear it over and over during every Presidential election cycle. Donald Trump is evil, just as Hillary Clinton is evil. Nothing is going to change with either of them in the Oval Office, and even Dr. Ron Paul recognizes that.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    It's the same reasoning used to justify voting for the lesser of two evils. We hear it over and over during every Presidential election cycle. Donald Trump is evil, just as Hillary Clinton is evil. Nothing is going to change with either of them in the Oval Office, and even Dr. Ron Paul recognizes that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    In the second video, Rand says he understands voting for the Libertarian candidate to send a message. I would add that in either a hard core red or blue state, everyone should vote for a party other than Dem/Rep. For instance, no one can say that a vote for Johnson or Castle in California helps Hillary. Hillary is winning California no matter what.
    Exactly! And I'm voting Castle. (Johnson lost me with the carbon tax and other examples of abject stupidity and rejection of liberty. The libertarian party needs to get the message that the answer to the lesser of two evils is not to introduce a third.)

    That said, it's not at all surprising that Rand endorsed Trump and didn't qualify his statement with a "Vote 3rd party if it's safe" argument. I mean....he did endorse Romney.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A lot fuses will be blown today.
    Why? Rand endorsed Romney. Everyone knew he'd eventually endorse Trump. In fact the only surprise is that it took this long.
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Another reason to vote Trump. They aren't even parsing their words any longer. The MIC is bold.


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