My God, What If He Loses?

[adissa]

Last week was not a very good week for Donald Trump’s poll numbers. In fact, I had several Trump diehards—not bloggers or pundits, just private nobodies who are friends of mine—tell me that these days they find themselves thinking the once unthinkable: Trump might lose. Trump’s multiple recent statements speculating about the possibility of a loss have not helped soothe some of his followers’ growing anxiety. With so many Trump supporters framing the election as the “last hope for Western civilization,” it’s not exactly encouraging to hear your man say, “It’s okay. I have a yacht and a mansion; I’ll be fine.”

Now, I know that some of you are thinking, “The polls are wrong, the polls are biased, the polls lie.” You keep thinking that. Because by all means don’t listen to those of us with a little more experience in these matters. I mean, for a lot of pro-Trumpers, especially those who come from the alt-right fringe, this is their first time feeling like an active participant in a national presidential election. As a longtime GOP party hack, I can tell you that the “lying polls” line is not something you want to fall for. In 2008, many GOPs had convinced themselves that the polls were not to be believed because Americans were being untruthful with pollsters, as no white person wanted to admit he wasn’t gonna vote for the black guy. “But wait till they get in the voting booth,” we smugly assured ourselves. “Then they’ll vote our way.” And we all know how that turned out.

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[nikcers]

[undergroundrr]

Then we'll get 4-8 years of trump's long-time political ally. It's all good.

Plus, trump has proven that someone can diametrically change belief systems in a few years' time. Could happen to Hillary just like it did to trump.

[kahless]

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“If Trump loses badly, nobody aside from Hillary and her courtiers will have a seat at the table, because America as we know it will cease to exist. This is why the #NeverTrump conservatives who dream of making a comeback in 2020 are delusional. This isn’t an election about ideas so much as it is about demographics. The straight white men who built America are being systematically replaced, and when they go, America goes along with them. While Trump is no savior, he’s the first candidate in decades who has a chance of halting the Marxist tide.”

^This.

If he loses then there should be a grassroots effort towards state and regional secessionist movements.

[undergroundrr]

If he loses then there should be a grassroots effort towards state and regional secessionist movements.

Secession is always a good idea. Even if Ron Paul was President we should be working to secede.

[timosman]

^This.

If he loses then there should be a grassroots effort towards state and regional secessionist movements.

People could just simply learn to love hammer and sickle.

[dannno]

One thing about the media putting Trump down in the polls, and Trump making statements about a possible loss would be to get more Trump people out to the polls.

[spudea]

nothing good

[robert68]

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

[timosman]

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

[AuH20]

[AuH20]

If Trump loses, my prediction is that you will see a state attempt to secede within the next ten years. The chair is against the wall and the middle cannot hold.

The Trump phenomenon is the final pleading to the elites that we will not go down the dark path that they have planned for us. My friends and family will not die on the plains of Russia for some geopolitical swindle. No way in hell.

[adissa]

One thing about the media putting Trump down in the polls, and Trump making statements about a possible loss would be to get more Trump people out to the polls.

True.

[ChristianAnarchist]

What if he loses?? Of course he's going to lose. I don't understand how anyone can hold up hope that he can win. The criminals run goonerment and Billary is the criminal(s) chosen to be the fake heads for a while. I seriously doubt that Trump was ever poised to "win". He's just playing his part...

[timosman]

What if he loses?? Of course he's going to lose. I don't understand how anyone can hold up hope that he can win. The criminals run goonerment and Billary is the criminal(s) chosen to be the fake heads for a while. I seriously doubt that Trump was ever poised to "win". He's just playing his part...

He probably did not get the memo. Hey Donald, thank you for the performance, we are taking over now ;-)

[TheTexan]

Winners don't think about losing. They think, what do I need to do to win

If you want to be a winner, then vote like you've never voted before. Harder than you ever thought you could.

And Trump will win.

[KEEF]

[CaptUSA]

I'm more concerned about what happens if he wins... If he loses, we get the same old same old. Government will continue to grow, the Court will get more and more progressive, rights will slowly be removed and the economic bubble will keep growing. Basically, the same $#@!ty status quo.

But if he wins... They'll have a patsy for the real re-set button. They can burst the economic bubble, declare a state of emergency, quickly remove rights, empty the remaining coffers into their own pockets, create worldwide turmoil, dramatically increase the threat of war, institute martial law, bring on the police state, and then blame it all on the American public for picking an "outsider" to make sure no one ever does that again.

TPTB always have a back-up plan. If Trump wins, that simply means that they've decided they've gotten too far out on the limb and need to institute it. And that should scare the hell out of you. I'm fairly well-prepared, but I've always hoped I wouldn't have to put my plans into action.

By the way, this same fate would have met Ron Paul, but at least Ron had the economic insight and principles to pull through an economic collapse. It would have been a "soft" correction. But you don't get a "soft" correction with an authoritarian.

[KEEF]

I'm more concerned about what happens if he wins... If he loses, we get the same old same old. Government will continue to grow, the Court will get more and more progressive, rights will slowly be removed and the economic bubble will keep growing. Basically, the same $#@!ty status quo.

But if he wins... They'll have a patsy for the real re-set button. They can burst the economic bubble, declare a state of emergency, quickly remove rights, empty the remaining coffers into their own pockets, create worldwide turmoil, dramatically increase the threat of war, institute martial law, bring on the police state, and then blame it all on the American public for picking an "outsider" to make sure no one ever does that again.

TPTB always have a back-up plan. If Trump wins, that simply means that they've decided they've gotten too far out on the limb and need to institute it. And that should scare the hell out of you. I'm fairly well-prepared, but I've always hoped I wouldn't have to put my plans into action.

By the way, this same fate would have met Ron Paul, but at least Ron had the economic insight and principles to pull through an economic collapse. It would have been a "soft" correction. But you don't get a "soft" correction with an authoritarian.

^This^ Except I fear the collapse is coming with either, the only thing different will be how TPTB justify how it happened. If Hillary is in, collapse happens, Russia will get blamed, and then we have WWIII. If Trump wins, I feel you are spot on.

[kahless]

[Jbunker]

If he loses we're $#@!ed, if he wins we're $#@!ed too. Luckily I like to complain, so I'll at least be able to enjoy myself either way.

[Theocrat]

Well, if Trump loses, then blame the Republican Party for it. For years in these Presidential races, the leaders of the party (with the help of the mainstream media) have shunned, isolated, humiliated, lied, ignored, and ridiculed principled, moral candidates like Dr. Ron Paul and Sen. Rand Paul.

Then when those candidates finally drop out of the race (to the GOP's delight), then conservatives are left with establishment-friendly, unprincipled, flip-flopping, egotistical, power-hungry candidates that are used to vote against the excrement that comes out of the donkey's ass on the Democratic side, always with the reasoning that if we don't vote for the Republican candidate, then a Democratic victory will spell the doom for us all. Thus, we always get enticed to vote for the lesser of two evils.

So, you know what? If Trump loses, then we all deserve the consequences of it, especially the Republican Party. Don't expect me to vote for the Republican when the Republican Party does all it can to rid itself of statesmen who rightly deserve the title as "President of the United States," like Drs. Ron and Rand Paul, and then uses scare tactics to try to force the public that a Republican douchebag is now better than the Democratic douchebag.

Enjoy your chains. You wear them well.

[Peace&Freedom]

TPTB always have a back-up plan. If Trump wins, that simply means that they've decided they've gotten too far out on the limb and need to institute it. And that should scare the hell out of you. I'm fairly well-prepared, but I've always hoped I wouldn't have to put my plans into action.

By the way, this same fate would have met Ron Paul, but at least Ron had the economic insight and principles to pull through an economic collapse. It would have been a "soft" correction. But you don't get a "soft" correction with an authoritarian.

Other than Jeb/Rubio, TPTB did not have a back-up plan, since the entire scheme (just like 2008) was to get Hillary elected, or failing that, another establishment insider (Obama, or McCain) to continue the spending, bailouts, debt and war programs. THEY DIDN'T SEE TRUMP COMING, to have a Trump back-up plan, just as they didn't see the outsider trend, or Brexit, or the defeat of their regime change war plans for Syria or Iran coming. The TPTB are formidable, but they are not omniscient, and can be beaten. Events and new precedents they did not forsee have overtaken them, which has put them mostly in disarray.

The forced economic collapse scenario also can't be pulled off for the same reason---events have made bursting the bubble implausible to blame on the American public, or a President Trump. Again, the outsider trend has already spread abroad, and evidenced itself in Europe with Brexit, with more such de-couplings from the globalist machine coming. Because a gigantic Mideast war with Syria/Iran has been scuttled or at least stalled, a sudden financial meltdown can't be blamed on the 'towel heads.'

And if a meltdown is tried anyway, to create a full martial law situation, that would DISABLE the "reset button," as the government would be frozen in place with Trump in power. What are the chances of a lurch towards more global big government with a pro-sovereignty, America first administration locked in power?

[AuH20]

I'm more concerned about what happens if he wins... If he loses, we get the same old same old. Government will continue to grow, the Court will get more and more progressive, rights will slowly be removed and the economic bubble will keep growing. Basically, the same $#@!ty status quo.

But if he wins... They'll have a patsy for the real re-set button. They can burst the economic bubble, declare a state of emergency, quickly remove rights, empty the remaining coffers into their own pockets, create worldwide turmoil, dramatically increase the threat of war, institute martial law, bring on the police state, and then blame it all on the American public for picking an "outsider" to make sure no one ever does that again.

TPTB always have a back-up plan. If Trump wins, that simply means that they've decided they've gotten too far out on the limb and need to institute it. And that should scare the hell out of you. I'm fairly well-prepared, but I've always hoped I wouldn't have to put my plans into action.

By the way, this same fate would have met Ron Paul, but at least Ron had the economic insight and principles to pull through an economic collapse. It would have been a "soft" correction. But you don't get a "soft" correction with an authoritarian.

Insightful post. As you well know the central banks of the world work in unison to produce desired results. It's not out of the realm of possibility that the cheap credit formula that has been floating the U.S. economy could be strategically pulled if Donald Trump became POTUS. Such a move would set off a negative domino effect on the LIBOR rate and other economic aides. Any uptick in loan interest rates could decimate entire industries at this junction where stagflation is so apparent.

However, the only problem with this drastic measure from their perspective would that there would be no going back. Once the credit seizure lever is pulled, the water isn't going back into the tub.

[Smitty]

If Trump loses, Hillary is going to make sure that American women get lots of sex.

[timosman]

If he loses we're $#@!ed, if he wins we're $#@!ed too. Luckily I like to complain, so I'll at least be able to enjoy myself either way.

thread winner

[Tywysog Cymru]

Secession is always a good idea. Even if Ron Paul was President we should be working to secede.

Why would you want to secede if Ron Paul was President?

[undergroundrr]

A. It would be feasible under a Paul administration and he'd likely sanction it himself.
B. Localization of control/total nullification.
C. Good neighbors are nice.

[heavenlyboy34]

[angelatc]

Why would you want to secede if Ron Paul was President?

Because nobody can be president forever.